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Frankford Arsenal Co-Ax Clone?

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  1. Doublehelix
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    I did not see this posted anywhere on here, so I thought I would start a new thread.

    Looks like Franford Arsenal has created a press that looks surprisingly "similar" to the Forster Co-Ax. Obviously different, but you have to take a second look when you first see it.

    From the picture, it looks like nothing extends below the bench like the Co-Ax does.

    They seat the dies in little square blocks instead of the Forster-style rings, and there does not appear to be any on-press priming.

    Looks interesting, but at $200 I am not sure if I would buy it over the Co-Ax.

    We'll see what the reviews say, but this is interesting to say the least.

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/8...H2AF0BqcqRrNbiFViiiT8nqbCu7VC9SsGfVVq3OrRGPOY
     
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    The Co-ax is an excellent machine. sooner or later there were going to be "knock-offs."
    That's a given.
     
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    not even listed on the manufacturer web site yet... Battenfield Technologies Inc.

    I wonder if it will show up after shot show...
     
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    Interesting .... I've owned a Bonanza CoAx since early 1970 .... almost 49 years ...
     
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    That lock ring looks different!
     
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    They call them blocks. Similar to Hornady bushing system. Needed for every die if you want a quick change.
     
  7. Texas10mm

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    That is a nice looking press.
     
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    Looks good except for those blocks. I'll bet that they will be spendy and you will be needing a bunch of them. I'm also not to happy about having setscrews bearing on the die threads.
     
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    I wonder if it is made in the USA.
     
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    Good question, I'd like to know that as well.
     
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    "I'm also not to happy about having setscrews bearing on the die threads. "

    I could see some hobbie machinist making a split " block" ( like the split rings used on the CoAx)...
     
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    It looks very interesting. Waiting to see how it does in the wild.

    When I first looked at it (pictures) I noticed that it was much like the RCBS Summit in that it didn't extend below the bench top, it doesn't offer on-press priming, and the die head moved on fixed rails...as opposed to the Co-Ax where the rails moved through the press.

    It's spent primer handling system is nicer than the Summit, but not as clean as the Co-Ax...you have to pull out the box/tray to empty primers.

    I like how it uses curved linkage arms like those offered by Inline Fabrication.

    Unless the die Box/Inserts are really inexpensive, it might be a deal breaker. Depending on the cost difference between them and lock rings, it wouldn't take many to make up the difference in cost between presses
     
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    Probably a good press. I don't get the reason for the die blocks rather than lock rings. Patent infringement concerns or just another product to sell?
    For a new press that will last a few lifetimes I'd go with the Forster for $100-$110 more. I bought my coax on ebay for about $200 and they can still be found for about that price.
     
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    I am not a mechanical engineer to analyze it but if it has very high leverage and good alignment, it would be a reasonable case forming press for wildcatting.

    Back when a free Englishman might own a pistol, there was a small British reloading equipment industry competing with stuff imported from the Colonies.
    One was Prime, whose press was claimed to be able to form 8x33 from 8x57 or .30-06 one on the downstroke, one on the upstroke.
     
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    I just noticed I misspelled "Arsenal" in the title! Ugh!
     
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    Even has a LED light!:)
     
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    :rofl:
     
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    Old die lockrings had a pellet of lead under the setscrew.
     
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    Sure about that?

    :)
     
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    Redding still does. You have to jar them loose if you want to change a setting
     
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    Haven’t seen a clear pic of the shell holder. Is it floating like the Co-ax? It looks like a conventional shell holder. Pass if so.
     
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    I'll go with a known Forrester in this case. I hate to buy extra unique things and those blocks fall into that category in my mind.
     
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