Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by MR WICK, Jan 6, 2022.
I’ve bought and used some of their ammo over the years. Mostly handgun cartridges. All of it that I’ve used feeds and fires. Never bought it for shooting small groups, but it has been sufficient for plinking or practice.
If you are not a reloader and just punching paper or plinking here is some tula for 32.7Cents a round. Tula 55gr FMJ bi-metal bullet steel case .223 rifle / pistol ammo (westcoastarmory.us) That is $327 for a 1000 case delivered. Free shipping.
It's Freedom Munitions, so it might take a long time to ship, but I have never had a complaint about their new or reman ammo.
EDITED: Sorry, I had outdated info.
Never shot steel before.
This usually refers to the case, but cheaper imported ammunition also has copper plated steel jacketed bullets. Steel cased ammunition is usually lacquered, or polymer coated for rust proofing. Steel jacketed bullets are cheaper than copper jacketed ones.
The copper wash can be worn off and the steel jacket wears the rifle bore more than a copper and lead bullet. However, the cost savings can more than pay for the increased wear on the barrel and bolt, in a normal market.
In reality firearms steel is much, much harder than the ammunition components steel. The wear that happens in a barrel has more to do with the five thousand degree plasma that erodes the bore with every shot. And the shooting is easy to do when the ammo is cheap.
However, I spend good money on quality firearms and parts. I can afford to feed them well, too. “Cheap ammunition” doesn’t come in the same sentence as “Accurate placement”.
I only have a turret press, but I can beat that price, even if I pay myself minimum wage.
Not at today’s prices…
Thanks man. Appreciate itm
You had a great post but lost me at the end. When I see someone looking for least cost 55gr FMJ, I’m not thinking they are looking for match grade ammo.
Most steel case 5.56/.223 will pass shooting drills and be on a dinner plate out to 200 yards. But most cheap brass case ammo won’t be significantly better.
I think steel case ammo gets it bad rep based on the steel/AK relationship. I can get pretty passable groups with Wolf steel case in my 7.62*39 AR hybrid.
Steel case ammo is fine for range fodder or even drills on IPSC targets out to 50 yards. If you want to be shooting tight groups, then probably pass.
Exactly. Yes, even cheap brass cased range fodder isn’t the most accurate ammunition. But at least it’s brass! (Save your brass! You’ll need it!)
Yeah, I usually read too much into threads. I’ve read @MR WICK ’s recent threads about the zeroing the scope, choosing a compensator and shooting longer range with his CZ.
While FMJs and steel case will get affordable range time, quality practice time will better come with quality ammunition.
Price is always a consideration for me. I produce the best ammunition I can afford, not necessarily the most ammunition I can make for a Buck. It hard to know if the wind hold was wrong if it’s with in a large circle of where the bullet might go. It easier to know when I pull a shot if the ammunition is tight.
I can’t always shoot the best of the best, as it would be wasted on me, but I don’t shoot the cheapest I can get either. Especially not when I’m trying to teach myself something.
Of course, there are times when one just needs to get out and shoot a bunch, cheaply. I’ve dumped a magazine in my day. And I didn’t do it with 88 grain ELDs loaded with Varget.
All ammunition is useful in some way. Honestly, there is a lot to learn from a first can of range fodder.
China probably doesn’t allow their minions to have guns, let alone ammo.
Maybe for export. Like back when ships full of SKSs were being brought over from Norinco, etc. Hard to imagine the US Gov't. allowing those imports to happen again, though.
Their website shows NEW ammo with FM (FreedomMunition) headstamps. So, do they sell NEW ammo made by them, or not? . I realize this is an older thread, but today brass cost more than the price they have on NEW 9mm ammo loaded with XTP bullets. I know they have been going through financial struggles, and have been slow on filling/shipping orders, but other internet info seems to say they are doing better. ?
May come down more by Thanksgiving, too.
my rule of thumb is not to shoot anyone’s reloads. These reman companies have been trashed, beaten, and crapped on all corners of the internet with evidence of kabooms, etc. Not worth it to save a couple of cents a round imo.
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