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Friendship Finals

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by kwhi43@kc.rr.com, Jun 17, 2013.

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  1. Mike OTDP

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    Also, go over to www.targettalk.com. Read. Read more. Then head to www.pilkguns.com and read all the coaching information.

    FWIW, I'm now using a deep sub-six hold for revolver.
     
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    Phil and Mike - Thank you both for the help!
     
  3. kituwa

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    Kwhi,Phil,Mike, i know great groups like Kwhi posted are mostly due to the person shooting, but i was wondering,in your experiance do most remingtons shoot pretty good out of the box or are there certain things you have to do to them to improve accuracy? I assume a slick up on the trigger is a givin. Are there a lot of custom barrels put on the common Pietta's,Umberti's,ASM, or do the factory barrels normally shoot that well for most of you guys? I know Kwhi had said that the German gun,(cant think of the brand right off),were used by a lot of shooters but wondering how well the more common ones compared.What is really amazing to me is that groups like Kwhi's are done with the factory sites.I know the remington sites far surpass those on a colt but they are still a long ways from being target sites, especially for some of us old geezers.
     
  4. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

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    Well first kwhi & me are the same person. I know some of the guys at Friendship
    Use the stock Uberti's and win. The Pietta barrel uses a lot slower twist. Except
    For the shooter's model with the silver trigger guard. Now it will shoot. I know
    A nice lady from Ohio who uses one and wins. What we have at Friendship is
    A group of people who can shoot very well with most anything. They make it
    Look easy. But to answer your question, yes a out of the box with a little
    Slicking up, Remington will be good enough. The biggest one thing on the
    Open revolver matches you can do to improve accuracy is to add a trigger stop
    Phil

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  5. kituwa

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    Sorry Phil,i didnt realize you were the same person, i am a little slow,lol.That is amazing.It says two things then, you guys are very good shooters first off and it also says alot that a gun like the remington is more of a deal than i thought for a gun that costs so little compared to a cartridge revolver.This also tells me that when i hear a lot of guys saying their gun shoots 4 or 5 inch groups at 20 yards that it is mostly shooters error and not so much the gun. It is great your wife is involved in the shooting with you too,or is it you are involved with shooting with her? LoL. My wife loves to shoot also but we mostly just shoot in the yard and hunt a little. I will have to check around and see if there are some BP matches around my area, i would love to go watch.
     
  6. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

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    No, don't go and watch. Get in there and join them. I know some very good
    Pistol shots from your state. Don't ever get discouraged. Even if you can't keep
    10 shots on the paper at 25 yds. Good pistol shots will think nothing of it.
    We all had to start sometime. Nobody will laugh or make any comments. We
    Are adults. Just load your piece correctly, be safe. No wads, or 40 grs of powder.
    Watch what others do, especially the winners. Enjoy and have fun
     
  7. Mike OTDP

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    Kituwa, there are a lot of tricks you can use.

    A trigger job is a necessity unless you are shooting a Hege Maximum or FWB Rogers & Spencer. A lot of the lower-end guns are rebarreled, but not essential. A recut, trued forcing cone is often done. Probably the biggest headache is truing up the chambers with the bore. The lower-end Italian repros are a lot of gun for the dollar, but they are definitely made to a price point. And will only have one or two chambers that align properly with the bore. A lot of people will shoot only one chamber - MLAIC rules don't allow this, but N-SSA rules (and NMLRA rules, I think) do. A trigger stop is useful IF the rules allow it - again, MLAIC rules don't.

    And Phil is absolutely right. Shoot. Shoot some more. Compete. You think we leapt out of the crib as masters? And learn from the good shooters.
     
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    I dont think there are any matches close to where i live.North Alabama maybe but i live in the 3rd world country of lower Alabama,lol.I can actually shoot plenty good, not saying i would go in a take over but wouldnt be embarrased i dont think.My health would make it hard on me now i think. I cant be in the sun for long at all.I have a very serious case of lupus so i have to avoid sunlight plus many days my hands are so swelled up its even hard for me to hold my coffee cup.I also have seizers from it at times, and i have to take so many drugs that i cant concentrate well sometimes too.I do have days that i do fairly well but i never know ahead of time if i can walk or if the only way i can get around is with a cane, crutches or a wheel chair.Not a big deal for me because i love to just watch other shoot too.I have a son that loves to shoot and he is my best friend too, he makes sure that he will drive me to something like a match, hunting or to take me fishing.Phil said that most of them want balls that dont cut a ring for that type of matches.That tells me that the chamber have been reamed larger because most stock guns already have too small of chambers so if they are not cutting lead rings its about a sure thing they have been reamed.Was said something about caps that fit. That is something i had not realized was important for accuracy but that is not a hard thing to remedy by useing better nipples.I find this stuff interesting because even a lot of us that will never shoot in those type matches would still like to have some of things things that make the guns shoot better just for our own satisfaction when shooting a target in out own backyard or their club range on the weekend.Another question for you match shooters,,Do you find you can shoot well with one hand or is a two hand hold pretty much nesessary to shoot tight groups off hand at 25 yards?I know you cant hold a gun steady off hand so you must be useing hand eye coordination, where you almost subconciouslly see when the sights move across the bull and you finger squeezes when your mind recognizes the right picture.
     
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    Most all of our matches. Require you to just use one hand un-supported. All of
    the targets that Ihave posted were shot this way. At Friendship there are matches that are for 60 and older that let you use a Red Dot sight and I think
    They are two hand . Will post the matches sometime this morning. Also the
    100 yd match you can use two hands. When the wife won the 100 yd match,
    She used one hand. I cannot shoot near as good with two hands as I can with
    just one. Neither can the daughter. It's a lot easier for us to hold one hand
    Out still than to hold two hands out. There is a club in SC. I will find the name
    And where it is. The maker of some of our target pistols lives in SC John Mouzon
    I can't walk very well either. My wife has to post all my targets. There is always
    Someone at ranges to help. Would love to see you at Friendship next year. It
    Is usually the 3rd the week of June. I have seen people in wheel chairs go to
    The line at Friendship and load their pistols Then stand up and shoot, then sit
    Back down. I have seen them walk to the line on crutches also. I have Bells
    Palsy and still can' hardly see out of my right eye. I just had to learn another
    Way to aim. You just have to learn to adapt as your body changes. I almost
    Quit 4 months ago because of my health, but the wife and daughter got all
    Over my case and wouldn't let me. Neither would my friends. I don't shoot as
    I once did . But the old blind hog finds a acorn once in a while. Please don't
    Ever give up. Just enjoy your shooting for your sake. Your friends are your
    Biggest assets. Phil
     
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    Here Are Some Clubs In SC

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    Here Is The National NMLRA Pistol Program

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