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Frustraited with holster companies

Discussion in 'Handguns: Holsters and Accessories' started by Dimis, Dec 8, 2010.

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  1. Dimis

    Dimis Member

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    I have a Taurus PT1911B-1 with a light rail and a Streamlight TLR-2s mounted on the rail

    I have found three companies that manufacture light mounted holsters for the 1911

    Tucker Gun Leather (site now doesnt have model any longer)
    Raven Concealment (Does Not Fit Taurus Models!!!)
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    Side Armor (again Does Not Fit Taurus Models!!!)

    I shot an email to raven as they say they do custom stuff but pfft after a few weeks of waiting i guess ill never see one back (even tho the website specificaly states not to call but to email)

    Tucker had light bearing holsters but now the page is gone but they did list the Taurus and the TLR in the lineup

    so what exactly is so different about the taurus 1911s rail compaired to others?

    why cant i find a "REAL" holster for this gun without going generic uncle mikes or UTGs garbage

    anyone able to point out someone else that makes a holster for the Taurus with the light attatched?

    and no having the light on the holster is useless im not gonna ask the badguy to wait while i attatch the light i want it on the gun
     
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  3. Dimis

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    But will it fit a Taurus 1911?

    All the others specificly excluded taurus for some reason
     
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    They don't sell them because not enough people want a holster for them.
     
  6. Dimis

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    I believe this to be an assumption not fact

    they make plenty of holsters for other brands (even lesser known brands) of railed 1911s with lights attatched

    I would still like to know what exactly is different about the taurus that makes it not fit any of the other holsters

    And thank you Orion for the link but unfortunatly I forgot to mention in my ranting that I would prefer a Kydex holster
     
  7. Dimis

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    Just got word back from tucker and they discontinued the entire line of light holsters

    bladetech also came back with a no go because the rail is a different dimension (I still cant see how)

    Seriously anyone wanna make about $250

    I just want a simple Kydex Hip Draw Holster for a not so rare gun with a light mounted

    Im about to just give up sell my 1911 and get a glock EVERYONE makes glock stuff:fire::banghead::fire:
     
  8. David E

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    Believe what you will, but the fact that you can't find this set-up backs up my assertion.

    A properly made kydex holster is molded precisely to the gun. This is a double-edged sword as "close" doesn't cut it like it does with leather.

    There are a boat load of different rail specs out there. The Taurus is one of them and their other specs are on the "large" side as well.

    The Taurus line is mostly "value based." What this means is, most people that buy one won't be buying a top of the line kydex holster. No, nylon is good enough for many.

    The lights are another things. I have 4 and they keep coming out with NEW ones.....so what works for this gun with this light won't work with a different light attached.

    Light holsters are a total PIA to make, which is no small thing. I'd charge you $250, but I'd have to buy a Taurus and then have you send me the light and then take all day to make a one-of-a-kind holster. Suddenly, $250 isn't enough!

    Good luck with your search.
     
  9. Dimis

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    how bout this then since my value gun isnt deserving of a high end holster i dare you to find me any hard plastic (nylon kydex play-dough thats been oven baked) holster for the gun

    its not that they arent popular its that holster manufacturers are a bit... well gun snobs

    my previous statement toward glock was very accurate blade-tech offers EVERY concievabale combo for light mounted glocks

    Same for the M&P line from Raven

    yeah rail specs vary I got that but seriously if you can form a plastic holster for a colt with a rail or a springfield with a rail you surely could do it for taurus too

    but then again i guess your right my cheap pos taurus is too lowly to have good gear...

    even if it does routinly outshoot higher quality 1911s... all without a jam

    stupid taurus dont they know to make it more expencive and work less to be a real gun
     
  10. 9mmepiphany

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    I can understand your frustration...I went through it is the early 80s when I tried to find a affordable holster for my Star PD.

    Part of the problem is that you selected a gun whose dimensions differ more than a bit from most 1911s and then you want it to accommodate a weapon mounted light also. It is something I have learned to take into consideration when making weapon selections that I plan to carry.

    It isn't just a matter of tweaking an existing design a bit. A custom maker willing to make a one-off holster for you would need a gun to form Kydex around. Very few holster makers are going to want to buy a gun they might not otherwise have a use for just for that one use...even fewer holster makers have a FFL that would allow them to recieve your gun to use for that purpose.

    I'm thinking your best bet would be to find a local kydex bender, who you could take your gun to for a fitting...that is what we used to do for custom leather
     
  11. David E

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    Ok, I'm convinced.

    Obviously, there is a vast, heretofore unrecognized, unfilled, unsatisfied demand for kydex holsters for the Taurus 1911 with a Streamnlight TLR-2 attached.

    My suggestion to the OP is to learn how to make kydex holsters (since apparently any schmuck with a heatgun can do it...:rolleyes:) and fill this overwhelming demand.

    You stand to make a LOT of money! I predict you can make one's, maybe even ten's of dollars.....


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  12. KodiakBeer

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    Kydex is just plastic, so buy one for a different 1911 and file to fit.
     
  13. David E

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    Good luck with that.........
     
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    IMO there are plenty of light holsters for guns other than the 1911 because LEO's use them. In the LEO community very few departments are carrying 1911's so the need to a light holster is also very small.
     
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    Take your hardware to a local Kydex guy and have one made up, I just did that for two oddball guns with SharkTac, they go to gunshows and make pretty much whatever you want on the spot.

    This is one of the reasons I look at holsters BEFORE buying a gun for carry, by the way.

    Or learn to mold Kydex yourself and modify something by HEATING it, not filing on it.
    KB, you really don't have much experience with Kydex, do you?
     
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    I can make you one but I need your gun and light. If you don't mind shipping both ways for the gun, it will definitely cost less than $250. I make holsters for OWB and IWB from Kydex but I just don't have a Taurus 1911 with rail and I only have a TLR-1s which is different from yours. Here's a pic of what they look like.
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    Maybe, but the more likely explanation is that the Taurus 1911 is new on the market and there just aren't that many folk out there looking for any holster for one yet (let alone one with a mounted light).

    If you can find a local holster maker that would be your best bet ... drop off your piece and they use it for making the holster (you end up with the absolute best in custom holsters that way).

    If there is another kydex holster out there for a railed 1911 w/light I'm not sure why you couldn't use a heat gun to soften it up and then use your Taurus to reshape the holster (if you go this route make sure you do some research on molding kydex).

    And finally you can always buy kydex and fasteners and a heat gun and make your own ... there are several guys here on the forum that make their own kydex holsters who could give you a ton of pointers. For example here's a build thread by TheWarhammer of a supertuck style hybrid holster he built. Here's another thread on making your own Kydex holster.
     
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    No, I don't. I don't buy plastic guns or plastic stuff for my guns.
     
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    Well that's an adorably cute attitude, but how about you don't give advice on how to re-shape stuff you've never worked with, then?
     
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    Speaking of giving advice without knowledge. Can you get one close to the right size, and fit it with a heat gun or hair dryer?
    My daughter’s hair dryer pulls more amps than a window air conditioner. It’s got to get hot enough to soften up a little kydex.
    It may sound stupid, but could it work?
    Just asking
    Steve
     
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    It can and does work but the problem is when you heat kydex it's natural tendency is to go flat and if you heat up the area too much or don't direct it properly you will ruin the holster and never get it back to where it was.
     
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    It looks like Klutch has the answer to your problem.
     
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    I'm not a big fan of kydex, but I gotta admit that rig Klutch makes is actually good looking (probably because its based on a leather holster design :p ).
     
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    I hardly think Glock holster makers (such as the reasonably priced blade tech) qualify as "gun snobs..." They are just trying to appeal to a proven market segment.

    You should have bought an "inexpensive" GLOCK 21 SF w/milspec rail...less money than your "value" taurus 1911...seriously, do you expect a robust aftermarket for a $500 1911?:confused::neener: ...with a G21 you get out of the box accuracy & 6 more rds in the standard mag (and every holster manufacturor makes a holster for it...I have a bladetech for mine.)

    ^^^^sage advice, I do this also...even though I make OWB leather holsters; I like to buy kydex holsters for competition and crossbreed IWB...

    good luck in your search...I think a custom holster is in your future...;)
     
  25. Dimis

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    Id like to start off by saying I was a bit hot headed yesterday
    I do understand that the taurus is not as in demand as say a springfield with a rail or a kimber
    but lets be honest molding plastic is molding plastic
    no not everyone can do it but those that can should lean a bit more to doing so
    I offered to pay for a custom job to blade tech ravens and tucker all three responded with a "suck it up buttercup" response

    I understand that the "tacticool" holsters are generaly aiming at tacticool guns like M&Ps Glocks and XDs but they offer 1911 holsters for various other manufacturers and with enough people buying them and finding they dont fit what does the company do?
    well logicly they dont start offering holsters for taurus 1911 but instead place a warning that the holster doesnt work.
    hmmm... if theres enough people to warn wouldnt you think there would be enough people to buy?

    as for the G21 it is not less expensive than the taurus 1911
    I paid $510 for the taurus and a new G21SF here is at minimum here $550+ yeah i understand its not that much more but it is MORE

    secondly I didnt want a Glock I wanted a 1911

    as for accuracy my taurus is pleanty accurate not saying glocks are not but Im happy with my taurus' groups

    My frustraition is simply that "OTHER" railed 1911s that are no better quality or price point get the treatment but the taurus doesnt

    If no one made holsters at all for railed 1911s thats one thing or if the manufacturer was the only one making them for there own products again understandable
    but the frustraition of darn near ever other one getting something is a bit irritating
     
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