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Frustrating Day Reloading

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Sistema1927, Jul 2, 2020.

  1. Sistema1927

    Sistema1927 Member

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    I decided to load up some .32 S&W Long target ammo today for the new SP101 in .327.

    I can normally crank out about 200 rounds an hour of .45 Colt or .45 ACP using my Lee Classic Turret Press, but today was a chore in so many ways. In fact, it has probably been decades since I have loaded anything with small primers, since 9mm and 5.56 is so darn cheap most of the time in bulk.

    First, I had trouble finding my small primer arm. Finally, it was in the last place I looked. Then, I had continual problems with indexing, it just wouldn't adjust properly. So, I removed the indexing rod and turned the die head by hand. Also, I had to continually torque down the clamps that I use to secure the piece of oak that the press is mounted on to the workmate that I use as a bench. Then, about every 3rd round, the primer would fall out of the priming cup, and I would have to use a flashlight to find the errant primer on the floor. Finally, the threads on my old-style Auto-Disk powder thrower hopper finally gave out, and I ended up cleaning up spilled Trail Boss.

    So, rather than an output of 200 rounds per hour, I ended up with 100 rounds after 4 hours. My original plan was to load 200. I also need to do some troubleshooting to find out why indexing wouldn't adjust, as well as ordering new parts for the powder dispenser.

    But, like somebody says, a bad day of reloading beats.... Oh well, who am I trying to kid.
     
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    I had laugh a little bit about that. I always find what I'm looking for in the last place I look. Usually I am looking for something that is already in my hand. Sometimes it's best to walk away for a while. My problem is when the little voice in my head tells me to stop I still think I'm almost there just one more try. The next thing I know I'm making a trip to the store or ordering new parts.
     
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  4. warnerwh

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    I would check the little square black thing that rides up and down the index rod.
     
  5. Jim Watson

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    Of course. When you find it, you quit looking.
     
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    This.

    It took me many years to learn that sometimes the thing to do is walk away.

    Especially if one has a hot temper.

    Like me.
     
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    The old saying somedays you are the windsheild and somedays you are the bug has truth in it. When that happens I figure that someone wants me to do something else right then so I try to pay attention and change gears.
     
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    And then there’s all those that won’t let you walk away! Then they wonder why I’m yelling and following them around yelling at them. I don’t yell when I’m not hot. Why don’t they let me cool off?

    And it’s not yelling, my voice just carries, at volume, when I’m excited...:p


    At least it wasn’t dinner, @Sistema1927. Nothing worse than messing up a process I feel I should know, and not getting dinner, in my book.
     
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  9. kidneyboy

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    The turret press square ratchet. Cost about .50 cents
     
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  10. Waterboy3313

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    I'm very easily frustrated and my patience runs very thin. Mix that with my attitude about wanting to get things done right now and it can be a recipe for disaster. Most of the time if I am struggling with something and I listen to myself which I usually don't I will walk away, sleep on it or even forget about it for a few days. After taking a break something that I have struggled with for hours that should take a few minutes usually goes like it should.

    I am mostly self taught when it comes to my to my hobbies. If it can be screwed up, broken or fixed I have probably managed to do it. I like to say I know a little bit about a lot and I'm not good at anything. Take your time as hard is it may be and eventually things work out.
     
  11. Highland Lofts

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    When I have days like that I stop and go at it tomorrow.
    It's been a while since I had one of those days, i'm about due for one.

    It's not worth getting frusturated at someting that should be enjoyable.
     
  12. Jim Watson

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    Grr. I chronographed some 9mm reloads today. I got my box label and my notebook chart skewed so I am not 100% sure what my ammo was doing. I can drop the lightest and heaviest in the series but will rerun the middle of the series for confidence.
     
  13. D Rock

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    Sorry to hear about your tough experience. I only load .380 Auto about once a year and it always seems to take me a while to adjust to the case size.

    I go along with warnerwh and kidneyboy on the square ratchet. Any time I notice the dies being not quite lined up it's the square ratchet.

    You can see the crack on the last one I changed.
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    Dave
     
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    We all have those days from time to time. As you get older they may come more often than you like. I just normally stop and walk away. I either come back in a hour or two or the next day.
     
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  15. Sistema1927

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    I am going to check the square ratchet (Edit to add: Yep, looks like it needs replacing.). I just wish that I had done this prior to ordering the other stuff that I needed, since a 50 cent piece isn't worth a separate order. Who knows, maybe I can get a few cheap on flea bay? (Edit to add: Midway wants $1.99 each (!?!). I did find a seller on flea bay who sells them at 6 for $10, shipping included. Bought a set, but I bet that I will never need more than one.)
     
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  16. Waterboy3313

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    Sounds like you should be up and running in no time. eBay is good for reloading stuff as long as you keep an eye on the price. I have found a lot of good deals but have seen some ridiculous pricing too.
     
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    I bought the same about 6 years ago. They will probably outlast you, as long as you can remember where you put them. :D
     
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    I never had any luck with the auto index. I load in separate stages to eliminate the problem. Are you talking about the old powder measure? the new one has brass nuts that go on thru bolts they never strip
     
  19. Zendude

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    At least you got the bad day out of the way. Now you can enjoy smooth sailing for a while ...
     
  20. Metal God

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    I have things like this come up from time to time . I’ve learned over the years to walk away for a bit . It would not have taken 4 hrs to do this . I can usually tell relievely quickly that things are not going well. I used to start throwing things but that never helps . Many times I come back to it and none of those things are a problem any more .

    I can’t tell you how many times I was trying to do something at work for like two hours and couldn’t get it accomplished put it away came back in the morning and did it in like 10 minutes . Sometimes it’s your mental state tired maybe slightly irritated and don’t even realize it so you’re tolerances are less All kinds of things contribute to the multitude of things going wrong and sometimes it’s just The universe messing with you
     
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    The first time the bolts came loose you could have taken a home depot or lowes run to regroup. Nylock nuts are fabulous
     
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  22. WestKentucky

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    That saying always gets me to giggling, and my wife can call out why about half the time. I just go back to a Bill Engvall bit... ain’t never heard anybody say I found it and just kept right on lookin.

    I had a frustrating day at the bench a few weeks ago. Hadn’t reloaded in about a year, and went to load some 38s and figured out why I didn’t ever finish the die setup... I don’t have lock rings that fit my Lee 4 hole turret. Then I decided to swap to 223 and had nearly ran out of bullets... had just a few of this and a few of that. Then the kids invaded, so I had them reload what few 223 could be loaded til we ran out of bullets. By then I was ready to throw in the towel after a grand total of an hour and a half and 33 rounds.
     
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  23. lordpaxman

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    I usually get really really mad looking for something, figure it’s gone for good, buy another, then find the original.
    @Sistema1927 , I feel your pain. As I get older, the decision to stick to it or let it rest for a while changes... Good luck!
     
  24. berettaprofessor

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    Order them straight from LeePrecision and buy several...if you keep 5 on hand, the one you have will never break and then your heirs will wonder why you had so many. And while you're at it, the primer arms are only $7.00...buy several...that's my usual solution.
     
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  25. whughett

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    One can have hang ups with even the best of equipment. I have a Lee Classic Turret at the winter house and Dillon 550 at home. Totally opposite ends of the cost, design spectrum in presses. Each can give one fits at times. The walk away approach on those, should have stayed in bed days, is the best approach. In a venture where attention to detail is paramount distractions can lead to disasters.
     
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