Fulton Armory
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HankL
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Blain, The future story of the in spec N.M. receiverfrom Armscorp was that I had it made up into a competiton grade as advertised by F.A. It sat on the rack because I was shooting the pearless that I had already received. A year or so later I was able to pick up a new E2 stock and hardware for a decent price and ordered the bipod and muzzle brake. Nice conversation piece and a great shooter.
The guns that civilian competition shooters used in the days I was playing were built by serious shooters who built up some rifles for themselves and started building a few for friends. Some of these guys got very good reputations because of their work and became full time smiths for the competitors. I would like to think that this is the way it works today.
Art, My first M1A was cobbled together in a garage shop but back then you could get good surplus parts and good receivers pretty cheap. M 21 Heavy barrel, mostly TRW parts, bedded in a GI plastic stock which was hand painted while hanging off a tree, a good leather sling and an ART II scope set me back almost 500 bucks gently used Springfield receiver included. She ain't too purty up close but when fed M118 Special Ball will out shoot the very expensive F.A. Pearless at range.
If Clint has done things harmful to the competition community shame on him.
Armscorp needs to be another thread on another day.
Best to all, I'm done with this one.
Hank
The guns that civilian competition shooters used in the days I was playing were built by serious shooters who built up some rifles for themselves and started building a few for friends. Some of these guys got very good reputations because of their work and became full time smiths for the competitors. I would like to think that this is the way it works today.
Art, My first M1A was cobbled together in a garage shop but back then you could get good surplus parts and good receivers pretty cheap. M 21 Heavy barrel, mostly TRW parts, bedded in a GI plastic stock which was hand painted while hanging off a tree, a good leather sling and an ART II scope set me back almost 500 bucks gently used Springfield receiver included. She ain't too purty up close but when fed M118 Special Ball will out shoot the very expensive F.A. Pearless at range.
If Clint has done things harmful to the competition community shame on him.
Armscorp needs to be another thread on another day.
Best to all, I'm done with this one.
Hank
Sven
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I still don't understand what the big problem is, even though I've been brought up to speed by those in the know. It's a free market - pay those prices if you want.
Fulton has earned a bad reputation in the competitive shooting niche... such that, some members here on THR wouldn't even answer a question I posted about Fulton... they have boycotted all Fulton Armory threads! "They" aren't reading this thread, either, probably.
Anyhow, I just got an M1A NM Hooded rear sight (complete) for $100 from a private party... same part goes for $150 plus S&H on the Fulton Armory site.
It DID take me a few weeks of hard searching (and the right friend) to find this part cheaper, but ... I like to hunt, and I like my $50.
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..oh yeah, and I HATE pop-up ads on websites, and Fulton is guilty of this. Thanks to Mozilla, it's not a problem any longer.
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Fulton has earned a bad reputation in the competitive shooting niche... such that, some members here on THR wouldn't even answer a question I posted about Fulton... they have boycotted all Fulton Armory threads! "They" aren't reading this thread, either, probably.
Anyhow, I just got an M1A NM Hooded rear sight (complete) for $100 from a private party... same part goes for $150 plus S&H on the Fulton Armory site.
It DID take me a few weeks of hard searching (and the right friend) to find this part cheaper, but ... I like to hunt, and I like my $50.
-s
..oh yeah, and I HATE pop-up ads on websites, and Fulton is guilty of this. Thanks to Mozilla, it's not a problem any longer.
(edited to fix typo)
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I've thought about this a while and have decided to break my self imposed silence on the subject. Like Steve Smith, I am a Highpower Competitor. One of the aspects of Highpower that I like is the willingness of the competitors to share information and help others. So here's some sharing.
I had a ringside seat to the controversy that Clint McKee stirred up on Shooters.com last spring/summer. In short, there were opinions of the quality of FA's work posted and in the process of trying to defend his work, McKee insulted by skillfull innuendo more than a few of the top shooters and AR Smiths in the game today. The threads and posts (those that weren't deleted by the webmaster) are still there for any that wants to dig a bit. I personally didn't care for a non-competitor telling me that what I as using was wrong and what he was selling was best.
Coincidentally, during that same time period Mike Orwan, HighMaster competitor and former gunsmith posted his experiences working with a Big Dollar Service Rifle Smith with his thoughts and observations;
Article - Is More Expensive Better?
I have a good idea who he's writing about, but I'll let you draw your own conclusions. Hint: Plug his address, and Savage, Maryland into one of the "online map programs" and note the proximities.
For those that will say that I am just repeating hearsay. I'll say I've received first hand correspondence - some good, some bad. The bad revealed enough disturbing business practices to swear me off of ever doing business in the future with a certain company.
I had a ringside seat to the controversy that Clint McKee stirred up on Shooters.com last spring/summer. In short, there were opinions of the quality of FA's work posted and in the process of trying to defend his work, McKee insulted by skillfull innuendo more than a few of the top shooters and AR Smiths in the game today. The threads and posts (those that weren't deleted by the webmaster) are still there for any that wants to dig a bit. I personally didn't care for a non-competitor telling me that what I as using was wrong and what he was selling was best.
Coincidentally, during that same time period Mike Orwan, HighMaster competitor and former gunsmith posted his experiences working with a Big Dollar Service Rifle Smith with his thoughts and observations;
Article - Is More Expensive Better?
I have a good idea who he's writing about, but I'll let you draw your own conclusions. Hint: Plug his address, and Savage, Maryland into one of the "online map programs" and note the proximities.
For those that will say that I am just repeating hearsay. I'll say I've received first hand correspondence - some good, some bad. The bad revealed enough disturbing business practices to swear me off of ever doing business in the future with a certain company.
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Redlg155
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Ummm...I retract my earlier post. I ended up getting an Armalite. 
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Steve Smith
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Thank you, BlindRat, for saying what I couldn't say.
Sven
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Blings link is broken:
http://www.mikesshooters.com/story.htm
Check out the other links on that damn fine site.
http://www.mikesshooters.com/story.htm
Check out the other links on that damn fine site.
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