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GA Teen suspended for not hanging up on Mom in Iraq

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Kestryll, May 6, 2005.

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  1. Kestryll

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  2. Beav

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    Well from the article...

    It sucks but IMO you can't blame the school. How are they to know who is on the phone? You let one kid slide then all the kids are talking to relatives in Iraq. He should have acknowledged the request and wrapped it up instead of being defiant and then using profanity later. It wasn't the phone call that got him suspended but rather his attitude.
     
  3. DarkKnight01

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    That disgusts me... those disrespectful arrogant asses !! Id do alot more than use some profanity if I were in his shoes..

    Gee how nice of them... Im sure she will be so relieved :rolleyes:

    Id be more than out of control... Id be putting folks in the hospital for something like that... A teacher tried to grab me once in HS... I grabbed his hand and squeezed til he was on his knees... They tried to suspend me... but my father called and threatened with his attorneys... they changed their minds...
     
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    His attitude? No thats not the problem... when they said jump he didnt respond with how high... And he told the teacher hes speaking to his mother deployed in Iraq...
     
  5. Beav

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    Well I wasn't there I am only going by what is in the article.
     
  6. Spreadfire Arms

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    DarkKnight01 wrote:

    "Id be more than out of control... Id be putting folks in the hospital for something like that..."

    the report does not state that any physical force was used against the student. he was advised to terminate the call which he did not. his phone was not taken away, nor was he touched so it appears. you advocate violence when no violence or threat of violence is directed towards you?

    doesn't sound right to me. :confused:
     
  7. Jeff White

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    DarkKnight01 said;
    Your dad would need his attorneys around here...to get you out of jail on an aggravated battery charge :uhoh: . I suppose that the teacher just tried to grab you because he was having a bad day? :confused:

    Read your reply again. "Id be more than out of control... Id be putting folks in the hospital for something like that..." I think that you took the wrong lesson away from that experience. Just how would it help the situation to put someone in the hospital? IMHO attorneys are the proper answer to the situation that is the subject of this thread, and the threat of them against the school district may not have been the proper answer to your incident.

    Jeff
     
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    I had to hit a teacher back in Russia who objected to the humor in my Basic programming commentaries and grabbed me by the lapels. Looking back, the only thing I regret is not hitting a lot harder. If I ever laid my hands on my students except in self-defense to to prevent a capital crime, I'd fully expect to be shot for cause.
     
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    There's got to be more to that story...

    My gut reaction is that the school district grossly over-reacted. Hopefully more information will be forthcoming...
     
  10. Viking6

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    "My gut reaction is that the school district grossly over-reacted."

    Seems to be a lot of over-reaction on this thread.
     
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    High schools are little more than p.c. prisons these days. Every right you have is stripped at the door and anything the ruling elite decide is against a proper learning attitude earns you punishment. It is a disgusting and vile mark on our society, and reason enough to home school your child in my opinion.
     
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    I don't care if he's talking to the President; he had no call to do what he did if this story is accurate. 10 days might sound excessive, but I'd bet money that this wasn't the kid's first offense.

    Anyone caught physically assaulting a teacher at my old high school would promptly have their ass kicked by the cops, and find themselves in jail. You would need a lawyer alright...
     
  13. DarkKnight01

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    No he was an a$$ of a teacher... He grabbed me by the back of the hair... HE would have faced the assault charge... Not me, I was defending myself. Hes lucky all he ended up with was a sore hand.. He was known to get physical with students... why it was tolerated I dont know.. He was near retirement so perhaps they turned their heads coz he was near the end of his teaching career anyway.

    Well perhaps I was out of line, reading it disgusted me... And yes the threat of attorneys to the school district was the proper answer. It was self defence not just me going off and crushing his hand coz he put it on my shoulder... He grabbed me by the back of the head by my hair and was about to throw me, which is when I grabbed him.
     
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    we wouldnt be discussing this if i had my way and all cell phones were smashed to smithereens.

    seriously, no one is so important they have to be able to take a call 24/7. the girls who answer the main phone line in my office even try to track down people so they can put calls through. ferchrissakes! theres freakin voice mail for a gosh darn reason!!!!

    all right, i'm stepping away from my soapbox, and am going to spend the next hour in complete solitude.


    [ohhhhmmmmmm] i am one with the universe [/ohhhhhhmmmm]
     
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    I wonder if many of you would feel the same way if his mother had been at a gun violence seminar when she called ;)
     
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    I think these idiots...

    owe an apology not only to the kid and his familiy but to all americans
    for such behavior. Even after they found out that he was telling the truth
    the still imposed suspension. Thats just plain anti-american. Now this brave
    American, has to think of her son getting suspension for talking to her on
    the phone. My dad was in the army, and when your deployed there just
    aint that many oppurtunities to make a call, and HELLO, can you
    say time difference.

    His Mom is deployed in a combat zone every phone could be her last.

    I think we all owe it to this kid, to write letters to the superintendent
    expressing our feelings, and demanding a public apology. :fire:
     
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    Meh, I don't see the big deal. Kid gets caught disobeying school rules, refuses to correct the situation when asked, becomes disorderly, and is then punished accordingly. It doesn't matter where his mother was and it's not like he couldn't talk to her at a later time. True she might not be around the next day, but that could be said about anyone.

    Yes, because requiring everyone to abide by the same rules is "anti-american". :rolleyes:
     
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    Once the teacher was told that he was talking to his mother in Iraq , the teacher should have backed off in my opinion. If there was anymore to be said or discussed it should have been later.

    The way it was done shows a lack of respect for the student who may have been going through enough already with his mother serving oversea's.

    Any part of what the student did that bothered the teacher and or the rules should have been delt with afterwards !

    The direspectful way it seems to have been done would likely have sent me into a pissed off rage also.

    My 2 cents worth !
     
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    First Amendment

    I think it is a little disgusting that schools seem to think that the First Amendment doesn't apply to students. Even profanity is protected. I've raised two children and taught lots more, and I have always found that quiet counselling, out of the heat to the moment is much more productive than over reacting.
     
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    grrrr

    A friend of mine died over there,another friend called me from there.
    I was damm glad to hear from him,I never got the chance to say anything to my friend that died.
    I am extremly angry that the school would interupt a call from this kids mom in a battle zone,it really may be the last time he talks to her.
    whomever interupted this kid call after being informed of the circumstances of the phone call is too narrcisstic to be working with children.

    they need to extract their cranium from their rectal orifice
     
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    Good for the school.

    You don't need a cell phone in school. School rules apparently prohibit the use of cell phones during school hours. The call was not an emergency. If you can't follow basic instructions in school, go somewhere else. I guess he'll have 10 days to take as many phone calls as he wants.

    Can't abide by the rules, either work to change them or move on.
     
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    Yep, I do hate to say it, but I think the school was probably right.

    For all of you saying that kids have a right to have and use cell phones in school, you probably didn't grow up with cell phones in school. They are a nuisance and annoyance. Yoiu know how disruptive it is when calls go off in class? And when people actually answer phones in class?

    If I were the teacher, I probably would have backed off when he told me who he was talking to, simply because it was his lunch period, and it probably wasn't causing any problems. But I am not going to complain that rules are being applied to all.

    Now, if the girl next to him was talking to her mom, who was off on an anti-war protest, and she wasn't told to hang up, I'd be mad.
     
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    "Lost in Los Angeles"

    :rolleyes: Ain't that the truth !
     
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    Better then to be carried off by mosquitoes...
     
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    Ah ! I see you edited your response .

    I suppose I realy should also - I respectfully disagree with you ! :p
     
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