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Galil: the *other* Evil Black Rifle

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by WardenWolf, Nov 2, 2010.

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  1. WardenWolf

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    Well, about 10 days ago I visited J&G Sales and picked up a Golani rifle. The Golani is an accurate clone of IMI's Galil. I'm very impressed with the build quality of this rifle. It's got a milled receiver and practically all-new components. The trigger is a Tapco G2 double-hook trigger group. It shoots very well and is very accurate. Just a nice rifle overall, with phenomenal build quality.

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    The only problem I had with this rifle was the original magazine, which was surplus and completely worn out. Fortunately, Tapco magazines are only $13.50, and work very well. I may be installing an AR-15 mag adapter in the future.
     
  2. philpost

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    Sweet looking rifle!
     
  3. Hammerhead6814

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    *Jedi Mind Trick

    You will convert to AR-15 magazines.
     
  4. 52grain

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    Pure evil. All that's missing is the bayonet lug.
     
  5. HPJeep

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    I was always scared of Century's quality issues which kept me from buying a Golani. Glad to hear yours is a nice example. Might have to reconsider.
     
  6. WardenWolf

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    J&G recently got a new shipment. I handled mine before I bought it. Rock solid. Just expect to replace the magazine.
     
  7. InkEd

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    I will advice you to inspect one before buying it. I have seen them be anywhere from decent to garbage. I am glad you found a good one. Sorry about the magazine being junk.
     
  8. GunTech

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    I have an early gun, a replacement after the first ORF receivers were recalled for being out of spec. Century was great to deal with and sent me a replacement which has been a great rifle.

    I did find the original Orlites were tight in the rifle, and had to open up the mag well slightly to accommodate them, and also accept the the M16 mag adapter. I believe this was fixed in later versions.

    Here's the area to check if Orlites are tight. A small touch with an end mill fixed it.

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    Final guise:

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    BTW, I have seen these rifles for under $600, which is a great price for this under appreciated rifle, considering what the IMI originals go for.
     
  9. WardenWolf

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    I got mine for $620 after tax. The receiver milling is VERY good. Whoever they're using now for their receivers does a top-notch job. My receiver should have no issues with the Orlites (granted, who needs to source them when Tapco Galil mags are $13.50?). Yours looks like a cast receiver, GunTech, at least from what I can see.

    Here's my magazine well, and you can see the milling; it's a little dirty. Still haven't cleaned it:

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    GunTech, where'd you get the railed gas tube?
     
  10. GunTech

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    Mine has an ORF milled receiver. It's just dirty.

    BTW, the new cast receivers are also milled post casting, so milling marks don't mean a milled from stock receiver. Since Todd at ORF died and the company folded, CAI has had to rely on another source for receivers, allegedly Caspian. I have yet to see one of the cast receivers so I could not tell you from experience what to look for. Mine is a very early gun.

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    I bought my railed tube from Uzitalk, but they have them here:

    http://akpartskits.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=462
     
  11. WardenWolf

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    How well does that AR magazine adapter work for you? Any issues or magazines it doesn't like?
     
  12. DoctorOfLight

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    Please excuse my ignorance, but it sounds like that rifle shoots 223 ammo. Is that right?
     
  13. WardenWolf

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    Correct. It does. Actually, all the documentation refers to it as 5.56, so it can indeed shoot the higher-pressure mil-spec loads.
     
  14. GunTech

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    BTW, Milled ORF receivers serials start with GAL, Cast Caspian start with GLN.
     
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    The gun runs fine with PMAGs and milspec alloy magazines (GI surplus and Brownells). I haven't tried any other.

    Keep in mind that while the NATO spec for 5.56x45 is 62,300 psi, the 5.56 chamber has a longer leade than the 223, with it lower SAAMI spec pressure of 55,000 psi.

    Also, early Golanis had spotty heat treat, so you need to watch out of for signed of mushrooming at the locking shoulder. The cast receiver guns don't have this problem and in general the only complaints I have hear about the cast receivers is that there are some visible cast mark. The general consensus seems to be that the new receiver have a much better QC than the ORF.

    The galil section of uzitalk is a good source of info on these rifles.
     
  16. WardenWolf

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    My receiver starts with GAL. It's possible someone revived ORF or purchased their equipment. GAL049XX. These are brand new builds, though.
     
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    Mine is GAL031xx, and is about two years old. Either they don't sell a lot, or they just grab receivers out of a pile willy-nilly. Regardless, they are great rifles and the early problems seem to have been dealt with.

    BTW, does yours have Hebrew markings? Full auto notch (non-fuctioning)?
     
  18. WardenWolf

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    No Hebrew markings. Only markings are S and F. J&G had just gotten a new shipment when I arrived. The guy at the counter thought they were sold out, but he checked the computer and found a new shipment that they hadn't even gotten on display yet. I pretty much got the first rifle off the truck. Never opened, never handled. I asked if I could take the top cover off to inspect it, and the guy said go for it. One thing that impressed me was how clean everything was. The milling was crisp and uniform, the finish was good. Everything looked new. I've got a Century AK underfolder and a PSL, so I know what to expect from Century guns. This one blew me away.
     
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    You make me want to buy another. Enjoy your new toy! :)
     
  20. WardenWolf

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    Thanks, and thanks for your help! I need to figure out how I'm going to put a rail on this gun. I really don't like the idea of a gas tube rail because I like to be able to scope my guns. I'm left-handed, as well, so an offset mount doesn't work. This could be tricky.
     
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    I keep wanting to buy one of these and keep putting it off.

    If I still lived in Prescott and could make a run down to J&G I probably would have bought one by now.

    My local shop here has one but they want something like $850 for it.
     
  22. HorseSoldier

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    The actual .mil Galil SARs my last active duty unit had for familiarization did not have any Hebrew characters on them, either, if I remember correctly.

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    i read some were the century goloni rifle had trouble "out of the box", if so its not worth 1,100$.

    is the goloni any good or not?
     
  24. WardenWolf

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    Well, if you'd been reading, ulfrik, those questions would be answered. There's nothing wrong with the Golani. It's a fine rifle. The magazines that come with it are typically worn out, though, and will cause it to malfunction until you replace it. Fortunately, replacements are cheap. I put a new $13 magazine in it and it runs like a champ. It's like any AK-style rifle: good luck getting it to malfunction unless some major component is totally shot.
     
  25. ulfrik

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    so the goloni is good.cool i like the galil rifles.

    how about the ptr91? wow a g3 made from scratch in the usa, is it to good to be true or is it a good rifle?
     
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