GAME TIME!!!! Name my first 9mm.. and I'll buy it.

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Ok. Here's the rules. I don't want a collectors piece. I want a non-collector piece that is ultra-reliable and relatively accurate. So any votes for some custom $2,000 piece will be eliminated. I want a 9mm that I can trust with my life but is still pretty accurate. And yes this will be my first 9mm. I prefer practical pistols in the CCW or service style but will take recommendations for anything.

Votes that are "buy this" and that's it will count as 1 point.

Votes that are "buy this and here's why" or "buy this and I own it" count as 2 points

Votes that are "buy this and here's why and I own it" count as 3 points.

The gun that scores the most points is what I'll buy.


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Smith and Wesson 5906...Because they are affordable, durable and ultra-reliable. I carried one for a duty weapon for close to a decade with no complaints. I bought it when we swapped to Glocks.
 
"buy this and here's why and I own it": Glock 17 or 19 or 34, the benchmark of reliability, accuracy, simplicity, durability, and a very competitive pistol in IDPA.

"buy this and here's why": S&W M&P 9mm, Glock copy with a few cool different features like a better overall feel and an available manual safety model. Not better or worse than the Glock, just different.

"buy this and here's why": Dan Wesson Guardian hands down the finest 9mm you are going to find under your silly $2000 limit.

"buy this and here's why": HK P7 CCW heaven with a niche trigger and cocking mechanism. Very light accurate trigger.

"buy this and here's why": Kahr P9, PM9, MK9, K9 Smallest 9mm's out there that still shoot well. Anything less has more recoil, worse sights; or both.
 
Wll what are you going to use it for?? Home defense, range shooting, concealed carry, all of the above or some of the above?? Do you want large or small, heavy or light, metal or poly, DA/SA or striker fired?? Or don't you care - just the most reliable one can recommend? All the manufactures make 9MM pistols that are relatively accurate. Any defintions of relatively accurate?

Based on what you have said so far I would recommend a Gen 3 Glock 19 which I own a Glock 19. IMO the finest all around 9MM made. Ultra reliable proven rugged and simple design, very accurate, reasonably priced, lightweight, low maintenance, high capacity, will continue working in adverse conditions, and perfect size that can do anything including concealed carry.
 
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Smith and Wesson 5906 = 3 points
High Point = 1 point
Glock 17 or 34 = 3 points
Glock 19 = 6 points
S&W M&P 9mm = 2 points
Dan Wesson Guardian = 2 points
HK P7 = 2 points
Kahr P9, PM9, MK9, K9 = 2 points
 
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I'll recommend the Ruger SR9 / SR9c. When the 9c came out Ruger greatly improved the trigger in the SR series pistols, and the black finish was switched from a black coating a nitride finish Ruger calls Nitrodox Pro. Nitride is short hand for ferritic nitrocarburizing. S&W, Walther, and other use Melonite. Glock uses Tennifer. Tennifer & Melonite are the best known trade names for ferritic nitrocarburizing. Ruger's improved trigger, and S&W's current trigger on the M&P line (the original M&Ps had much nicer triggers) are a large reason why I still own an SR9c, but no longer own an M&P 40.

Aside from the trigger, I also think the M&P 9 / M&P 9c are great pistols. (As noted above I've owned an M&P).

Glocks have good triggers for striker fired guns. I've owned a full size Glock. The grip width & grip angle don't work for me, personally, but Glocks are otherwise great guns.

I don't yet own a Springfield XD, but have shot several. The trigger pull is very good, the grip fits my hand, and the pistol points naturally for me.

I like HK's pistols, but I don't think they add enough value over the polymer pistols to justify their increased price.

From limited hands on experience I like the SIG Pro line, but I'm not a fan of DA/SA pistols in general. Hence, I've not gone out of my way to shoot them more.


As you're reading, much of my analysis is subjective. Regardless of the results of your weighted poll, please handle the winning pistol(s) first, and shoot them before buying if possible. What works for me, and many others here, may not work for you.
 
Wll what are you going to use it for?? Home defense, range shooting, concealed carry, all of the above or some of the above?? Do you want large or small, heavy or light, metal or poly, DA/SA or striker fired?? Or don't you care - just the most reliable one can recommend? All the manufactures make 9MM pistols that are relatively accurate.
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I have a strong preference for reliability but I'm open to other suggestions. I prefer practical pistols in the service style (e.g. 4" barrel) or CCW but I'm open for other suggestions here as well.

Any defintions of relatively accurate?
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head-shot capability at average combat distances will do.
 
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wacki said:
I generally put a reliability at a premium but I'm open to anything. I prefer practical pistols in the service style (e.g. 4" barrel) or CCW but will take recommendations for anything.



head-shot capability at average combat distances will do.
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I edited my post and stick with it. Gen 3 Glock 19.
 
I'm sure this won't be the winning choice, but I'm going to say it anyway. If you want an extremely accurate and ultra reliable factory gun you can't beat any of the HK P7 variants. I have a HK P7M13 and it's by far my most accurate 9mm. Also extremely reliable as long as you clean it after every 500 rounds or so.

The P7 has a cult following that you can't really understand until you shoot one. I've never met anyone who has owned one and didn't like it. The only real drawback is the price. The older PSP model is a lot cheaper though.

Otherwise I would recommend the HK USP. Of which I own three.
 
S&W M&P 9mm, Glock copy with a few cool different features like a better overall feel and an available manual safety model. Not better or worse than the Glock, just different.
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To be accurate, the Sigma was a Glock copy. The M&P is a completely different animal from a Glock or a Sigma. If the M&P is copy of the Glock, then the Glock is a copy of the HK VP70Z
 
Smith and Wesson 5906 = 3 points
High Point = 1 point
Glock 17 or 34 = 3 points
Glock 19 = 3+3=6 points
S&W M&P 9mm = 2 points
Dan Wesson Guardian = 2 points
HK P7 = 2+3=5 points
Kahr P9, PM9, MK9, K9 = 2 points
 
buy this Smith and Wesson 5906. Because it is ultra reliable and has a great price. I did own one, now I own two.
 
Smith and Wesson 5906 = 3+3 = 6 points
High Point = 1 point
Glock 17 or 34 = 3 points
Glock 19 = 3+3=6 points
S&W M&P 9mm = 2 points
Dan Wesson Guardian = 2 points
HK P7 = 2+3=5 points
Kahr P9, PM9, MK9, K9 = 2 points
CZ-75 =1 point
 
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Based on what you're looking for, I'd say the Glock 19 as well. I have one and it's plenty accurate, as reliable as you're going to get and very easy to conceal. The Glock 19 is probably the only Glock I'd ever own to be honest, but when it's done right, it's done right.
 
buy the hi point, i own one in 45 and bought it cuz it was cheap and the people i know that have them havent had any problems, a good beater gun. lol, does that count for 3 points?
 
Smith and Wesson 5906 = 3+3 = 6 points
High Point = 1+3 =4 points
Glock 17 or 34 = 3 points
Glock 19 = 3+3+3=9 points
S&W M&P 9mm = 2 points
Dan Wesson Guardian = 2 points
HK P7 = 2+3=5 points
Kahr P9, PM9, MK9, K9 = 2 points
CZ-75 =1 point
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Hi-Point, because if you are going to buy something entirely on the advice of total strangers on the internet, you might as well save a few bucks.
 
Buy this, and heres why, and I own one,

Ruger SR9..... maybe the SR9c

I've had mine for about a year. I love it. I have the full size SR9. Its an affordable gun, I picked mine up for $350 used, and I have had zero problems with it. No jams, no breakings, no break-in period. Mine has proved to be reliable. Its big enough to feel like a "real gun" but is still reasonable to carry.

I have two holsters for it, a Blackhawk SERPA and an Uncle Mikes IWB. The IWB cost me $15, and I feel like it conceals the gun pretty well if I wear an other shirt or a jacket over it. I use the Blackhawk mostly for match shooting, but sometimes CCW. I find both holsters to be quite comfortable, even with just an ordinary belt.

I know some people critisize Ruger because of the whole Bill Ruger thing, but lets face it: he's gone, so its kind of irrelevant.

And, they are made in the good old U.S. of A.

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson
 
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