Garand vs. AR

AR15 vs. M1 Garand

  • AR15

    Votes: 151 44.8%

  • M1 Garand

    Votes: 186 55.2%
  • Total voters
    337
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I am falling more and more in love with the M1 Garand. I already bought the AR15, and I already have an AK, so this might make the list of future purchases. I really like those M1 Garands. I'm also thinking I might like an M1 Carbine.
 
Given time for a well placed shot, a garand is great, but in combat I would think targets would be fleeting.
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There is no substitute for aimed fire. And now for a history lesson: Sargent Alvin York killed 28 German soldiers, took out 32 enemy machine guns, and captured 132 other Germans armed only with a bolt action rifle. If you keep your head and pick your shots you can inflict far more damage. Why do you think for the most part M16s and M4s are no longer issued with the original "rock and roll" feature? For civilian purposes the AR is not a practical rifle at all, even for defense. Anything you can't use the Garand for could easily be taken care of by a shotgun.
 
Like said before, you didnt state a purpose for the rifle, so its kind of hard to pick one.

That being said, for "general" use & ownership, I think I'd get the AR now. You will be able to get an original M1 for at least another year or so.

Both are great rifles.
 
I own several of both. Both have their places. If I want to hunt and in the mood for modern, I have a couple of '06 bolt guns I can use.

The M-1 has more soul, more mojo.

The AR shoots better and has less recoil.

If I want to shoot 308, well, I have a M-1 in that too.
 
Kansan said:
Ok, didn't mean to write a book.
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Don't worry about it; it was a good one. Welcome.

w/r/t the poll, I didn't vote. The original poster has written,

I'm keeping the AR and maybe I'll get a Garand in the future. I've regretted trading every gun in the past so I'll try something new and hang on to it.
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Can't argue with that. :)
 
I love the Old M-1 and the cartridge it fires....but I chose the AR-15,it might not use a heavy hitting round,but it can put down an accurate feild of fire,can carry more ammo,can be topped off,and with a gas piston kit it will be about as reliable.

I love the old warhorse don't get me wrong,but I'd rather be able to pick up a few boxes of .223 Rem off the shelf and use them without having to worry about the weapon going to pieces.
 
You know you can top off a garand... I dont know where people heard you cant top them off...
 
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I have several of each, more Ar's than garands but I'd take the garand over the ar in most situations. I wish the situation was more clearly defined. This is like comparing apples and cherries.
Pat
 
Exactly it must be people that dont own one or never used one that think you cant top off a garand...
 
Anyone consider the con of a Garand as not having the convenience of a detachable mag or any mag for that matter?

If you want to change out a partially shot clip on a Garand or unload it, don't you have to strip every round manually via bolt manipulation?

Also, for shorter statured men, the Garand is an awfully big gun. Clint looked right with it in Gran Torino, but that's Clint.
 
No you do not have to manipulate the bolt there is a button on the side to eject the en bloc you pull the bolt back and push the button and the en block flies out and you top it off or you can load it through the top while the en bloc is still in... its harder though... I dont know about any of you guys but I can load my garand alot faster than I can load a AR and im a lefty 5'8 and 160 pounds :evil:...
 
Ill stick to my old war horse and if anything gets to close I have got a remington 870 HD for the dirty work or even a glock...
 
Ain't 178grain bullets,they are 168grain.
Weigh em'
BTW,I voted for the Garand,it's the rifle I'd rather have in almost any situation.
(I'd rather carry a AR a distance of 50 miles)
 
No you do not have to manipulate the bolt there is a button on the side to eject the en bloc you pull the bolt back and push the button and the en block flies out and you top it off or you can load it through the top while the en bloc is still in... its harder though... I dont know about any of you guys but I can load my garand alot faster than I can load a AR and im a lefty 5'8 and 160 pounds ...
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That depends on what situation you are talking about.

I can fully load my 6 shot revolver 1 round at a time faster than my 15 round Beretta if I don't have the 9mm rounds in the magazine already. However, if I have loaded mags at the ready, I can do 2-3 magazine changes in the same time it takes someone to reload a revolver 1 round at a time. Longer if I am firing at him while he is reloading.
 
Im talking about Dropping a Full en bloc in compared to slamming a ar15 mag in I can do it faster having the rounds at the ready in clips and or magazines... I can also load my garand faster than alot of my buddies that have xcr's ar's and all that fancy stuff...
 
I would think putting in a full mag into an AR or an en bloc into a Garand would take about the same amount of time, depending on your familiarity with the weapon.
 
I'd say it depends on what you're going to use it for.

Ever tried carrying one all day while hunting? How about clearing a house with a Garand?
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Good point there.

if you're confident enough with your SKS, there's no reason to have both an AR and an SKS for the same purpose.
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The SKS strikes me as being more garand-like than AR-like, but still somewhere in the middle.
 
The SKS, Mini-14, Mini-30, M-14, M1A and even the Steyr M95 have a lot more in common with each other than the AR15, which is a family of weapons all onto itself.
 
I agree that alot of it depends on the familiarity of the weapon but the only disadvantages I can see of the m1 garand over the ar maybe weight but then again the weight is a good thing when you have to use it as a club... 8 round capacity doesn't seem like a disadvantage to me as I can reload it just as fast if not faster even though I wont have to reload it as much with the AR "this is why precision is key". All in all the Garand is a great battle rifle and is not obsolete now I figure if Have to clear a house I feel way more comfortable with a pistol than a ar.
 
I didn't know this was for HD haha I totally agree for home defense I have a remington 870 HD or my pistol with a streamlight. I was stating that the garand is not a good weapon choice for clearing a house of course and that I feel more comfortable with a pistol in house clearing than a ar so if the SHTF big time I would be just fine with my garand and a pistol:evil:...
 
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