Gen2 solvent trap + oilfilter and a form 1

[hentown]

The oil filter solvent traps are sold cheaply on Amazon. Cadiz sells their setups as NFA items. To answer the question about how anybody would now...blah, blah, blah, if you're out in the middle of nowhere, nobody would know.

If you buy the adapters from Amazon; don't pay the tax, do the form 4, etc., and shoot through the filter with no witnesses, nobody will know about that, either.

From Cadiz FAQ, both the adapter and the filters are serial #d.

"The Econo-Can Suppressor adapter part is round in shape. It also has 1/2x 28 threads and threads on to an oil filter for the purpose of shooting though the oil filter and working as a silencer. The adapter part also has the manufacturer name Cadiz Gun Works, Jewett, OH. Each Econo-Can Suppressor has a unique serial numbered that corresponds to respective the oil filter. The Econo-Can Suppressor is a NFA registered product and transfers on a form 3 to your FFL/SOT dealer. Your ATF Form 4 will transfer the registration to you."

 

[newfalguy101]

If you go to Caldez website, it CLEARLY states that the Filter IS serialized and must be returned to them each time it needs replaced............in reality, not a particularly cost effective way to go in my opinion

 

[R.W.Dale]

If you go to Caldez website, it CLEARLY states that the Filter IS serialized and must be returned to them each time it needs replaced............in reality, not a particularly cost effective way to go in my opinion

Assuming you ever use the original filter.

Devils advocate here

 

[WestKentucky]

not to butt into a good "how dumb is this" thread...but im gonna do it right here...Suppose the oil filter DOES do what is supposed to do, and lasts an entire lifetime. Great...that just means that you have the rest of your life to not see wht your shooting at cause theres a friggin oil filter in the way. So, now if the fine folks at Doomaflotchies Solvent Traps (wink) and such decide to cut the side out of a fram and weld on a flat plate so you can see to shoot maybe it wouldnt be as bad.

 

[R.W.Dale]

not to butt into a good "how dumb is this" thread...but im gonna do it right here...Suppose the oil filter DOES do what is supposed to do, and lasts an entire lifetime. Great...that just means that you have the rest of your life to not see wht your shooting at cause theres a friggin oil filter in the way. So, now if the fine folks at Doomaflotchies Solvent Traps (wink) and such decide to cut the side out of a fram and weld on a flat plate so you can see to shoot maybe it wouldnt be as bad.

Oil filters come in many diameter. Some quite small. An ar15 based platform would have no problem with such an arrangement due to the sight axis being so high above the bore.

IMO this systems grip on legality is tenuous at best. Even though the manufacturer states the oil filter is serialized and must be sent in for service I would be SHOCKED if they've serviced more than a half dozen units.

 

[AK103K]

Great...that just means that you have the rest of your life to not see wht your shooting at cause theres a friggin oil filter in the way.

I have a suppressor mounted on one of my Glocks. It blocks the sights, and I dont have the higher suppressor sights on the gun. They really arent necessary, as long as you can shoot with both eyes open.

Works on the same principal as the old Armson OEG, the original "red dots". Your right eye sees the dot/sights, your left eye the target, and your brain superimposes them, without thought. I can make head shots on a photo silhouette at 25 yards shooting that way without any troubles. That filter "in the way" wont stop you from making good hits.

 

[dogtown tom]

AK103K

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Thinking it would work? No sir.....I KNOW it works.

The "cantaloupe" would be quite messy, and also quite ineffective.

You are "quite" wrong.

hentown The oil filter solvent traps are sold cheaply on Amazon. Cadiz sells their setups as NFA items.....

Not true, only the complete "setup" (serialized adaptor and filter on a Form 3)
The EXACT same adaptor is also for sale without NFA registration.

 

[AK103K]

You are "quite" wrong.

Just out of curiosity, but what pray tell are you shooting that a melon will "suppress"? Airsoft or Paintball?

 

[crazy-mp]

I would think a guy could go to a hardware store and make an adapter that threads on to an oil filter. Or just ream and thread your own... this isn't rocket science.

People are too lazy to go to a parts store and get freeze plugs or fender washers and make their own that's why oil filter adapters are taking off, who cares how stupid it looks and legalities.

 

[Walkalong]

oil filter adapters are taking off, who cares how stupid it looks and legalities.

Well, for starters, we at THR care a great deal about legalities. Actually advocating illegal behavior here is against the rules and carries penalties. That quote is pretty close to doing so.

Talking about and debating a behavior is one thing, but advocating it is in a whole nother league.

Suppressors are illegal without the paperwork, and we do not condone either doing it or advocating it.

just to be clear.

 

[hentown]

I thought my most recent post regarding Cadiz pretty much covered what they sell and under what circumstances. Maybe I assumed too much.

Amazon does sell solvent oil filter trap adapters...cheap. They can also be found at gun shows.

I'd prefer the real deal, a genuine suppressor originally designed as a suppressor, for my use.

 

[dogtown tom]

AK103K

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You are "quite" wrong.

Just out of curiosity, but what pray tell are you shooting that a melon will "suppress"? Airsoft or Paintball?

.22 Long Rifle out of a Ruger 10/22.

 

[crazy-mp]

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oil filter adapters are taking off, who cares how stupid it looks and legalities.
Well, for starters, we at THR care a great deal about legalities. Actually advocating illegal behavior here is against the rules and carries penalties. That quote is pretty close to doing so.

Talking about and debating a behavior is one thing, but advocating it is in a whole nother league.

Suppressors are illegal without the paperwork, and we do not condone either doing it or advocating it.

just to be clear.

But the are ok? I guess I didn't start with hypothetically if a person was to...

As a licensed FFL/SOT I think there are a lot of people playing with fire when it comes to these products. Sooner or later the ATF will make a poster child out of somebody using these products illegally, its not a matter of if, but when.