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General Consensus on KEL TEC PF-9

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by loose noose, Jan 18, 2014.

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  1. loose noose

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    Seriously considering carrying a sub compact 9mm instead of my .380. I've looked at the KEL-TEC PF-9, and reviewed several numerous you tubes, and it seems like a toss up as far as actually purchasing one.( due to reliability) Some Yea and others No go. I'd like to see what you folks have to say. I'm familiar with the Ruger, however I don't like the safety on a DAO semi auto or the loaded chamber indicator. I really haven't found any quite as concealable as the PF9. Any suggestions would be very much welcome.
     
  2. BigWoolyBanjo

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    I wanted more caliber for pocket carry than my P3AT, so I bought the PF9 and a Galco pocket holster. It's a little larger than the P3AT, but still conceals fine in a front pocket.

    It's very reliable (as long as you don't put anything Winchester in it), and I trust my life with it.

    It's definitely not pleasant to shoot at all. But, there's a trade off between concealability and pleasure to shoot.

    At $300 you can't go wrong trying it!

    -Jeff
     
  3. celem

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    I have a kel-tec p3at that just came back from the factory repair service. I think the problems with Kel Tec stem from reports by people who have a lemon. That is the problem they either produce a great one or a lemon. The good news is that if you get a lemon they will make it right at no cost. My pistol had to go back to the factory twice before they got a right. Now it is perfect no failures, shoots like a gem 100%. So if you buy one don't worry, they will make it right.
     
  4. Nom de Forum

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    Mine work great. YMMV. The top of the grip/beaver tail is so rough it abrades the web of my hand. I fixed that with self-adhesive synthetic grip material the name of which I don't remember. If you buy one, you may want to buy another. One to shoot for proficiency and one to carry. These guns are not very durable so I don't fire my carry piece very often or much. Their lack of comfort and durability is more than made up for in concealment comfort. The price is reasonable for what you get.
     
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    Love mine over 500 trouble free rounds It a bit of a bear with +P but I stay mainly with the 115 gr HP. Read a lot of people complain about the heavy 140 gr ammo.
     
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    Mine is my EDC and has been since April of 2010. Not a pleasant piece to spend extended sessions firing with, but it's definitely a carry-oriented piece. Mine has seen maybe 500 rounds, and has had no malfunctions. It was used when I bought it, though, so I cannot speak for its performance prior to it becoming mine.
     
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    good, dependable carry gun. No frills and not refined. Kinda "feels cheap" to me, but the one I owned preformed great
     
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    Mine was a complete horror show.

    There are better choices for a bit more money.

    Kahr CM9.

    Jimmy
     
  9. loose noose

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    I've shot a buddy's PF9 about a year ago I don't believe the recoil was all that bad, however he hadn't shoot it that much, and neither did I. I was wondering about the durability more than anything else.

    I would think 500+ rounds thru it would be an indicator of its durability, as it definitely isn't a range gun per se. I know I can pick up a new in the box for right at $240 plus tax, at the lgs I work part time at. I haven't paid that little for a firearm in quite some time.

    Any way I thank all of you who replied.
     
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    I liked everything about it............until I shot it. I couldn't get mine to function and didn't reload at that time. Had I been more patient, I might still have it. Sold it to purchase a Nano and feel it was better choice.
     
  11. sig228

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    Had one, was very reliable but not fun at all to shoot. Too much bite for me and trust me, thats a lot for me to say since recoil rarely bothers me. Not quite as bad as 357 in a snubbie, but certainly not a gun to take to the range for an all day shoot. It is probably the thinnest 9mm out there and concealed very well. So if you want a gun to be carried a lot and shot very little, its perfect. Btw, ignore all those stupid youtube videos putting this one down. I ended up trading mine for a Ruger Mark III. Now that's fun.
     
  12. snooperman

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    I have the pf9 and have over 2000 rounds through it. Mostly my reloads and Winchester & Remington ammo through it. I do not recall any jams with this gun. For the money it is a good carry gun. It is not a pretty gun but it does what it was designed for very well. A good gun for the money from a company that stands behind their products with excellent customer service. I also have a Kahr PM9, which is more than twice the price of the Keltec pf9, and trigger is excellent. The Keltec is thinner and lighter in weight and conceals better for me than the Kahr in waist-band holster or pocket. Both are equally reliable but I prefer the Keltec over the Kahr. The Keltec pf9 recoil is sharper but it does not bother me as I shoot it frequently here at my farm range. I carry 115 gr Speer Gold Dots in it and trust my life with it. I also carry a 380 Ruger LCP in the summer as well or as back-up. I have shot many different 9mm "pocket" guns here at my range from relatives and friends and all are good guns. But , for the money, I like the PF9 the best. Good luck in your search. Snoop
     
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    I bought my PF9 in Aug'07 and carried it almost everyday for 6 years. With pinky extensions on the mags, an inner tube wrap on the grip and a Northwood replacement trigger, I found it to be light, flat, accurate, reliable and comfortable to shoot. Prior to the Northwood trigger installation it was all of those things but not as comfortable to shoot. ;)

    In Aug'13 I bought an XDs45 and that is now my regular carry piece, but I still often swapout the XDs45 for the PF9 when leaving the house, dependent upon what I am wearing and/or where I am going.
     
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    Recoil is a beast. The group I shoot with have named them " the devil gun". It is not a range toy for most. Now for the good parts. It conceals very good because of the thin width. It goes bang every time.
    Funny thing is everyone in the group has one. :D
     
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    Whatever you do, stay away from foreign ammo. A friend bought a PF9 and had problems with his gun. He was using ammo made in Brazil, I believe MagTech, and also Korean stuff. Stay with Winchester, Remington, and Federal as their brass is made for it. Or buy reloads with that brass. I have shot many small autos and own them. Three things to do, 1. Keep them cleaned and well lubed 2. Use good ammo-"the good stuff" not cheap junk 3. Use a very firm grip when shooting. If recoil is a problem, get a good pair of shooting gloves or put a Pachmayr grip sleeve on it.
     
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    Mine is reliable with various common HP loads and brass-case ball ammo.
    (I've never tried steel/Al cases)

    It isn't a "fun gun" to shoot, in fact it is a snappy little bastard, particularly with defense loads. I'm not particularly recoil averse, either. And I like slim pistols.

    It isn't a target gun, but the sights are workable and you can learn the trigger with some practice.

    I got the Twisted Industries .22lr conversion, which allows practice with less recoil.

    Some people have reported horror stories, I believe them but have not experienced it. I have various KT products and mine all work.

    Bottom line - they're affordable, light, and need some testing to establish reliability.
    They're also a bit overspecialized, treat them as carry guns that you shoot once in a while for proficiency, not range toys. Some need a bit of external dehorning on the polymer parts, mine didn't.

    Addendum to bottom line - it turns out that I can easily conceal much more gun than the pf9, so I rarely carry it, except when I want a pocket gun.
     
  18. snooperman

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    I also carry a 357 magnum snubby revolver, the Colt Magnum carry, and it kicks far more than the PF9, that I have. When shooting these guns I usually limit the number of rounds at the range to 30-35 at a time , once a month or so. "Shoot little but carry a lot".
     
  19. loose noose

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    Cowboybehop, I saw that video, didn't think too much of it, as the manner in which the second guy was holding the firearm. Note he was guiding the left side of the slide with his left index finger, therefore impeding the recoil of the slide when firing, if the target were shown I'll bet all of the rounds he fired went off to the right. JMHO. But that is one of the several negative you tube videos I was referring to in my opening statement. Thanks any way for your input.
     
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    I know a few guys that have one and they love it. No problems with theirs.
     
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    I had one a few years ago and while it was fairly well made and reliable, it was just a bit too large for pocket carry. I ended up trading it for a P3AT and have been very satisfied with its performance.
     
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    Had an early one with problems. Kel Tec is a great company though. They go out of their way to make things right. Once fixed good to go. Have owned 2 P32's, P3AT, PF9, and still own a Chrome S2K. Had to have some work done on the PF9. But again fixed. Local LEO used his P-11 to get a pitbull off a little girl here awhile back. He trusts his life to it daily. Now have the Ruger LC9.
    Most of the pocketable 9's have long DAO triggers for safety. I don't mind them because I started off with DAO revolvers. If you want something with a different trigger probably the SIG P938 would be something to look at. They've had their share of problems though and are pricey compared to sme of the other guns. Like I said most of the little 9mm's are DAO. Hope you find a good fit for your needs.
     
  23. loose noose

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    Think I'll go down tomorrow morning and buy that PF9 at my LGS. I do believe I'm going to enjoy it. Especially with the customer service everyone claims it has. Even with tax OTD it should run under $300.00 as I've already been told $240.00 + tax.

    I'll keep ya all informed of what I think about it, I've got about 200 rounds of 115 grn. Federal, as well as Winchester ST HP, and a bunch of reloaded 115 grn. ammo that I reloaded a few years ago for my Beretta 92fs. I'll go down and test all of that stuff and let ya all know what I think. Again I thank everyone of you for your input.
     
  24. 351 WINCHESTER

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    If you get one that works you should be good to go. If you get a lemon, they will make it work (most of the time). A good friend bought a new k/t .380 and after 2 trips to Cocoa the gun still jammed. The sad thing is he traded a perfectly good p32 for the .380.
     
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    It has a proven track record.
     
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