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"geolocate" app for tagging "irresponsible" gunowners

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by silicosys4, Jul 10, 2013.

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  1. silicosys4

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    Here is an app I found that allows anyone to tag anyone with the stigma of being an "irresponsible gun owner".

    "Happy Independence Day to all! To celebrate, the Gun Geo Marker App is now live in the Google Play Store. What better way to spend your holiday than by exercising your first amendment right and making your neighborhood a safer place simply by anonymously marking the locations of any guns or owners of concern? Doing so allows others to anonymously view your concerns. More information on this free App can be found at the Google Play Store:
    http://tinyurl.com/gungeomarker"

    http://gungeomarker.org/
     
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  2. Bubbles

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    Cool, free advertising! :evil:

    The list of FFL's is public info anyway.
     
  3. Robert

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    In the age of the NSA spying on seemingly everything I have to honestly say this is a terrible idea. So you tag someone as a gun owner, safe or otherwise, and that info is seen by who? Not that I am a tin foil hatter but why put out a geolocation of anyone really? And we complain about big brother, heck we are feeding him...
     
  4. silicosys4

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    ^^ I wouldn't think it would be an app that would be used by many pro gun people. I fear this is a highly abuseable item in which literally anybody could label anybody else with the stigma of being an irresponsible gun owner, in which there are NO criteria for guidance as to what constitutes "irresponsible" gun usage. I can see the people who would really be using this website to consider ANY gun ownership as irresponsible, hence you get labeled an "irresponsible gun owner" which carries a HUGE stigma to both pro gun and anti gun people. I could not find a mechanism in place for anybody to contest being labeled as such on their website, and no qualifications needed to tag someone.
     
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    Wonder if we can get one to tag irresponsible computer company employees and reporters????
     
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    "Geolocate Dangerous Guns and Owners with the Gun Geo Marker"
    A project of the walkingtools.net laboratory
    I redacted the number. I suspect they want angry disagreement from gun politics cultists whose religion requires live child sacrifices to appease a cold, tubular god (and I don't think the "tubular god" is the White Worm of Bram Stoker's horror novel).

    The developer is University California San Diego Lecturer Brett Stalbaum. There is a current member of the Electronic Disturbance Theater named Brett Stalbaum; EDT has used Floodnet to attack and shut down websites they disagree with, as well as cyber agitation and propaganda labelled as civil disobedience.
     
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    If it's really a cause for concern to anyone, you could always get the app and saturate an area that's been flagged irresponsibly with additional red flags pointed randomly. Increase the data set to the point of absurdity and the whole things becomes ridiculous . . . if it isn't already.
     
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    I'm going to check this out more in depth after work and start flagging every residence I know DOESN'T have a firearm. I encourage everyone here to do the same.
     
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    So you are suggesting that we allow individuals with absolutely no intelligent or informed knowledge of firearms deciding what is, or isn't responsible ownership? I know numerous individuals who think it is irresponsible for me to carry every where I go, keep a loaded weapon at my bed side, and teach my grand children how to shoot, and you want me to let them tag me? I don't think so, not happening.

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    This is worse then the NY newspaper that published the map of law abiding gun owners. Completely disgraceful that anyone would allow an app like this to be published. Has google released a statement about this?

    Edit: I reported it to the google "play store" as inappropriate. If you have an android phone I would encourage you to do the same. It allows you to write a description of why you feel it is inappropriate if you choose "other".
     
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    So tag _them_ as an irresponsible gun owner since it's obvious that, if they owned a gun, they wouldn't be responsible with it. If everyone is tagged, no one is tagged.

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    I saw this on Slashdot the other day. It also was reported on the alternative news sites and AR15.com, as well as a survivalist site

    http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/07...ing-application-for-dangerous-guns-and-owners

    "UCSD Lecturer Brett Stallbaum has released an Android app called Gun Geo Marker to allow people to 'Geolocate Dangerous Guns and Owners.' The app description states: 'The Gun Geo Marker operates very simply, letting parents and community members mark, or geolocate, sites associated with potentially unsafe guns and gun owners....."

    So who makes the distinction for "potentially unsafe" ? Whats this about "community members" ? What community are they talking about? The gun community??? I think not....
     
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    Would every office, hallway, and closet at the DOJ get it's own tag, or just one big honkin' tag for the whole building?
     
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    Yes, or better yet get multiple people to do it over a period of time, so that it can't be easily undone by an admin within the database.
     
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    This is just as offensive as an app allowing anybody to geotag anyone as a "potentially dangerous Muslim." It's constitutionally offensive (both are constitutionally-protected classes), offensive to reasonable expectations of privacy, and ridiculous from a practical perspective because there's no definition of "irresponsible" and no method of appealing such an assertion.

    I've submitted my objection to this app to Google Play.
     
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    I like it just one small change, scratch gun owners and just tag all law enforcement officers and government agency employees. One can't be too careful.
     
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    Download it, tag random objects in the neighborhood: i think that trees are pretty irresponsible gun owners.
     
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    Goose/gander. How about we use an app like that to identify people with AIDS or women that are, ahem, easy? I wonder how liberals would like that?
     
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    So I emailed the link to FOX NEWS about 2 hours ago (I am not delusional, I realize I am not the reason this appeared on Fox News). This article is now on the front page:

    http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/07...-homes-businesses-gun-owners/?test=latestnews

     
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    Exactly, mark every single address in an entire city, starting with Brett's house
     
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    Just the name is indicative of it's creator's opinion. We all know that a gun is an inanimate object so the title that says "Dangerous Guns" is already biased. I am sure that the criteria for "dangerous gun" is anything that is not a bolt action or shotgun, I.E. Semi-autos rifles and handguns.
     
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    There is a "Flag as inappropriate" option in the Google Play Store. Do like I did and flag it for google, and explain your concern about the app being used to target gun owners unfairly. If they receive enough complaints, it may be pulled from the store.

    Sent from my SCH-I925 using Tapatalk HD
     
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    What if the creator just created it to troll gun owners and make the news?

    As crude as the app is it wouldn't surprise me.
     
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    Took a look at their website. They specifically list the NRA as a "political threat". Among the reasons they cite for labeling someone an "unsafe" gun owners are:

    - Keeping loaded firearms at home
    - "First time" gun owners
    - Keeping of "out of place large arsenals" (A quote directly from the site: People who stockpile large arsenals or numerous assault weapons for reasons other than collecting are likely a concern.

    These people are NOT our friends.
     
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