Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by hotshot357, Jul 25, 2019.
As with so many other progressive presses, weakness is the operator.
Oh! I see. The primer system is linear. Linear. As in: in a line.
Uh... ok... Is that good? Was running the primers around in a half circle making them dizzy?
Making a change to smooth out the shellplate advance and reduce granule spillage on high-case-fill loading sounds like an improvement... that's something a couple of aftermarket products exist to change on 650's.
I just asked the primers in the Auto Breech Lock Pro Safety Prime and they asked for puke bags as all the swinging is making them throw up.
I like the fact that you can't stop the video and back it up to get a good look at the primer system on it. Looks like a Hornady primer system to me. I watched it three times. I had to keep logging back into THR because even when I hit pause at the primer system, the video kept on going.
It's like they didn't want us to get a good look at it.
I'm sure they will come out with better videos later on.
Yep, just teasing us.
Yup, teaser video...but a pretty well done one and addressed all the upgrades that they wanted potential purchasers to be aware of
I thought the variable speed case feed was rather interesting
Yup....I might have to get me one of those for my Pro Chucker 7! My home made one only works for the Pro 2000. I'll hit it with yellow gamma rays to turn it green.
The merry go round looked as smooth as I've ever seen a Dillon. jmorris.....you better order one!
Honestly I’m not qualified to say. I’ve never had the issue in question. Never owned anything other than a 650 so I can’t even say it’s better or worse than any other brand (unless I’m trolling @DRAINSMITH )
The only time I had a problem with the primer mechanism was when I first got the press. Had primers flipping over and a lot of jams. Found the root cause on the Brian Enos forum. The knurled nut on top of the primer tube needs to be barely tight. Just ever so slightly snugged down. Nothing in the Dillon manual says that. One of the things you learn from people that have more experience than you do.
The plastic orifice tip used on the SD, 550, 1050 and now 750 is the Achilles heal of the primer system but it is there as a sacrificial part to be mangled vs crushing a primer. The rotary feed system is so good it doesn’t need the plastic part and uses brass tips instead.
The problem my friend had was frustration and forcing primers in, hammer style, that were not going to go in, that caused him to set it off. The primer disk on the 650 has primers in close proximity to one another so that can cause one to set off another and so on.. It’s more difficult on other presses but like the earlier link to the LNL detonation thread, can happed to the linear, reciprocating systems as well.
The folks at Mark 7 took the disk concept of the 650 and moved the primers further from each other (like you get with a reciprocal system) but that’s not as easy to do purely mechanical (they already had the electronics for the other features though).
About 10 seconds in this video.
Took the one thing I don’t like about the 1050 and replaced it with the best feature of a 650 but made it less likely to “chain fire” if one goes off. Only down side is it costs over $5k.
I think Dillon is following Hornady’s dramatic lead with the video on their website.
Now, that being said will I be getting a Dillon? Not until they have their own bullet feeder. But I am trying to get my Dr. to order one. I really want to get my hands on one.
Dillon Variable Speed Casefeed Motor Upgrade - https://www.dillonprecision.com/casefeeder-variable-speed-motor-upgrade-kit_8_6_26744.html
me! Rather just buy the new Dillon one....
But do drivers of Ferrari and Lamborghini care about price? Only the very best for my Dillon 650.
Now, price of Corvette C8, Iiken to Lee Auto Breech Lock Pro, is another developing love story of mine.
It's good to have choices in life.
What to do, what to do ... 650 or 750 ... 750 or 650 ... 650 with ABLP?
I don't see why I would ever need it to go faster.
Do the Dillon case feeders not run as fast, as in RPMs, as the Hornady's case feeders do? Or am I missing something else?
You get to play with the knob.
I believe it is so you can adjust the speed of the plate to prevent upside down case or depending on length of the case - pistol vs rifle?
I haven't used my case feeder with rifle brass so I can't comment.
Update: Found it. Need low speed for pistol and hi speed for rifle brass. And some need even higher speed to reliably feed rifle brass - https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/228439-case-feeder-variable-speed-controls/
And also, many are outpacing the speed of case feeder when loading pistol calibers and need to increase the case feed speed a bit more.
That's just funny as hell. LOL! Play with the knob!
I hadn't thought about upside down case flipping and the dynamics of feeder plate speed.
They keep up with my prep press running over 4300/hour.
Rifle plates hold fewer rounds per revolution (SP plate holds 30 cases, SR holds 12) so you might need to switch them to high to keep up but they will with rates over 2100/hr.
Some folks like adjusting things and a knob would give them that opportunity.
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