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Glenn Beck and 2A

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 84B20, Feb 26, 2010.

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  1. 84B20

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    There is a very interesting discussion on the 2nd Amendment going on right now on the Glenn Beck program. If you haven't tuned in, it will be repeated over the weekend, at least on Directv.
     
  2. CoRoMo

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    I'll listen as it come on later, but be warned, there are plenty of members here who will probably take this topic off into the vitriolic weeds. Some people love guns and the 2nd Amendment, but hate the people passing out the information that protects it.
     
  3. 84B20

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    So be it. Anyone that disagrees with our right to bear arms as defined by the 2nd Amendment probably won't be comfortable here anyway. I'll fall short of saying they shouldn't be here anyway because anyone has that right.
     
  4. 35wailen

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    Glenn Beck only became "pro gun" in the last year or two. He's putting on an act for the fox "news" crowd. He had no guns until recently if I recall correctly.
     
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    Here we go...love the message but hate the messanger...CoRoMo has been around THR long enough that he's a THR prophet....an nailed it.
     
  6. 35wailen

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    Well if bill clinton or giuliani started talking the pro gun talk, would you just ignore the hypocrisy and duplicity of the messenger?
     
  7. 84B20

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    So what. I have only owned and AR for about 3 months. Does that mean I was against black rifles before that? I really don't want to get into a discussion about Glenn Beck. I just wanted to point out the discussion about the 2nd Amendment. Anytime there is positive, at least in my interpretation of it, talk about 2A it's a good thing.
     
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    So beck is having a "discussion." What is there to discuss? The 2nd amendment says what it says and the antis hate it. Having a discussion only gives air time to the liars. Is beck specifically pushing the TRUTH in these vaunted discussions or is he letting the antis get a free pulpit (in the interest of equal time of course)?
     
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    If you haven't been listening to the program you probably won't understand my point. The whole program is not just about 2A. The most important part that relates to this site was on the 2A and that was what I wanted to point out here. The whole discussion relating to the 2nd Amendment was positive.
     
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    Meaning what? How much talk time did the liars get? Did the same old sound bytes get repeated or did it move the truth farther along?
     
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    Please, just watch the program. There was only one semi negative comment and that was debunked buy Judge Napolitano.
     
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    :scrutiny:

    No, he's always been pro gun ... he's always been a strict constructionist.
     
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    So what's your point?



    Two things:
    1) Let's see some links to your claims. I watch and listen to Beck as often as I can, I've read most of his books, and I can't really recall a time he was anti-2A and then switched to a pro-2A in a "just for the ratings" move. Since you must watch, listen, and read him much more than I, let's have some links.
    2) It sounds as though you believe that people who were once neutral or anti-2A and change their minds to a pro-2A view aren't really valid 2A supporters. :scrutiny:
     
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    I agree, I became a Beck fan way before he was on TV, as I think he was broadcasting out of Tampa. Ive never witnessed him throwing off on 2A.
     
  16. 35wailen

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    I agree but I just don't trust ENTERTAINMENT personalities.

    No, I won't be watching it because I don't waste gun/ammo money by giving it to cable/satellite companies because they mostly broadcast anti gun crap in a variety of flavors (among other trash).

    I'm glad Judge Napolitano debunked the lie, but my main view is that Beck is doing this for ratings. I have a feeling that we won't hear any more pro second amendment stuff from Beck for a while after this is over.
     
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    So you really have nothing worthwhile to add to this discussion, if I'm reading this correctly.

    You think Beck is doing it just for the ratings but you don't watch his show so you really have nothing to base your view/opinion on. And your "feeling" is equally based on nothing. He has discussed 2A at length in his latest book, has discussed it on the radio and on TV...and you still don't seem to have anything to back up your "feeling" or view. You claimed he wasn't pro-2A at some point. That's quite a claim without evidence. You seem to have intimate knowledge of his firearm purchases as well...


    Anyone else thinking what I'm thinking? Starts with T and ends with ROLL...
     
  18. 35wailen

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    That was quite rude. I believe I have already added a good and correct perspective to this discussion, you just don't like hearing it.

    WRONG pal. I said I don't watch his show. I NEVER said I hadn't watched/heard Beck in the past. Your rudeness and desperation is showing by the way you misrepresent my words.

    Oh and here comes the petty and desperate name calling since you cannot defeat my point of view. Typical.
     
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    Glenn Beck does not convince ANYONE to agree with him. He just panders to those who already do to boost his TV ratings.


    He acts like a child with a temper tantrum- not someone I want arguing for my constitutional rights. It just makes it easier for those who sit somewhere in the middle or are uneducated about guns to write us off as extremists. I have seen this happen many times.
     
  20. 84B20

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    I definitely am!
     
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    Fine, think what you like. Support name calling. The low road you and your pal boba have taken will get your thread locked and you only have yourselves to blame. I stayed ON TOPIC, and I stayed on my point. I didn't call anyone here any name. Check the thread if you want to see WHO started the name calling.

    You guys (84B20 and Boba) degenerated into using the weakest internet argument in the book (i.e. calling someone a troll when you cannot defeat what they're saying).

    A troll is someone who makes an incendiary post and then RUNS AWAY to watch the fire. I hung in here and defended by viewpoint and you know it.

    84B20 and Boba have become hostile and insulted me in every way they dare, JUST because they don't like my viewpoint. Hey 84B20, if you only want one point of view, don't start threads.
     
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    That about sums up my feelings on the guy.
     
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    I'd really like a source for those claims. Glenn Beck is a friend of the RKBA cause. He's got a chapter in Arguing With Idiots devoted to the 2nd Amendment.
     
  24. 35wailen

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    rm23, we've been talking about his TV program all through this thread and not his book. Nice try at a diversion.

    Funny that you quoted where I said that Glenn "only became "pro gun" in the last year or two." Hey rm, that book was only published 5 months ago, so thanks for helping to prove my point. :D
     
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    I've been listening to and watching Glenn Beck since about 2002. I don't remember for sure whether he spoke about being pro 2A early on but I sure remember that he never spoke against it.

    Personally, I think Glenn Beck is probably the most honest media personality out there. He is very up front about where he stands, nails Republicans nearly as hard as he does Democrats and says what he believes, not what he is told would be good for ratings.

    It amazes me how many people fear that guy. Just mention his name and you can count on a wide range of negative statements about him, nearly 100 percent of which are false.

    I DVR his show every day so I'll check it out this evening.

    -Chris
     
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