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Glock 17 v. H&K USP for loaded chamber carry.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by el Godfather, Nov 29, 2012.

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H&K USP 9 v Glock 17: while carrying with a loaded chamber.

Poll closed Feb 27, 2013.
  1. H&K USP 9

    39 vote(s)
    52.0%
  2. Glock 17

    36 vote(s)
    48.0%
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  1. allaroundhunter

    allaroundhunter Member

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    El Godfather,

    Why do you prefer to carry decocked with safety on?
     
  2. Warp

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    Both.
     
  3. el Godfather

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    Like I said, its dictated by the circumstances. Thats mostly when I am in office when i am in office, just an added safety measure- I know there is no need for it. I am a politician and sometimes I go to places where I have to take my pistol off and hand it to my policeman for a while or something. At which point safety on makes lots of sense. Sometimes I dont have time nor i looks appropriate that I stand in hallways and clear my weapon before handing it to him. The few policemen who are detailed with me are well aware of my carry methods and well trained themselves.
     
  4. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    I swipe the safety off when the gun is first clearing the holster. One hand is used. It becomes instinctual and you don't think about it.
     
  5. PabloJ

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    It makes no difference unless you want to carry Glock in huge pocket or in male purse. If that is so then by all means choose the H&K pistol.
     
  6. Warp

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    Even in a pocket, purse, bag, etc...a holster should still be used.
     
  7. PabloJ

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    Yes, I would not want to ruin my Filson 'tin coat' those are dreadfully expensive.
     
  8. Robbins290

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    good point 527
     
  9. el Godfather

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    Well thats the point. If one is trained enough to make it just routine to disengage safety as pistol is leaving holster then I believe USP becomes a better choice.
     
  10. allaroundhunter

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    Well, better choice is an opinion and what is a better choice for one person is not necessarily a better choice for another. Me personally? If something could possibly go wrong on me, it will go wrong. For that reason I prefer to have extra safety measures in place.

    However, the other part of me knows that with a proper holster nothing short of a free pistol* is going to go off on its own.


    *Free pistols are a generic term for handguns used in 50m pistol competitions with trigger weights that can go down to just grams. If the gun is held muzzle up, the weight of the trigger alone will cause the gun to discharge.

    Free Pistol
     
  11. el Godfather

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    I dont think I will be ccw a competition pistol.
     
  12. dirtengineer

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    While shooting IDPA, I have failed to disengage the safety more than once. Never had that happen when I was shooting my Glock.

    My problem is I shoot several different pistols of different configurations. I now only carry my four that don't have external safeties. One less mistake to make.

    Of course, you have to have a good holster that covers the trigger and train to keep your finger off the trigger. This should be standard regardless of the pistol features.
     
  13. mljdeckard

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    Neither one allows for unsafe gun handling. Both require training and minimum competency.
     
  14. Onmilo

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    As we all know, the Glock "Safety" is on the trigger.
    Keep your finger OFF the trigger until your sights are aligned on your target.
    My 9mm USP is a variant 3, decocking lever on the left side of frame.
    If you need to move position you can use this lever to decock the weapon rendering it safer than running with a fully cocked firearm.
    It also makes the weapon safer to decock when holstering the weapon for carry.
    My USP Elite .45 is a variant god only knows what which is a variant 1 & 2 combined. (ambidextrous safety lever)
    In other words, the lever can function as a decocking lever or it can be pressed up a la 1911 to function as a manual safety which allows the gun to be transported or holster carried in condition one, chambered, cocked, & locked.
    All are slightly different in application and all are just as safe as the other if one takes the time to practice and familiarize with the system of operation.
    With familiarity most people will find a system that works well for them and that they feel comfortable with.
     
  15. Corpral_Agarn

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    I think DA/SA, no safety, is the better system for Concealed Carry.
    I like the long heavy pull of the DA followed by the lighter shorter SA when you really need it. Of course: YMMV
     
  16. David White

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    I bought the S&W M&P .40 caliber with the optional manual safety.
    I've had Glocks and I don't like a pistol without a manual safety.
    I started years ago with the 1911 pistol and all my guns since have had safety's.
    It feels weird to me if its not there...
     
  17. TheReiver

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    I voted Glock personally. My 17 had a 3.5 pound trigger and I always carried it chambered. Make sure your holster covers the trigger and exercise good trigger discipline (as with any firearm). Mechanical safeties make me anxious......
     
  18. David E

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    Changing the ready condition of your carrygun is never a good idea.

    Pick a way, then practice that way all the time.
     
  19. Robbins290

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    I agree david e. should stick with one way and pratice.
     
  20. el Godfather

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    I am well trained in handling both ways. My circumstances dictate this.
     
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