Glock 17 v Sig P226: which is better duty pistol?

[Striker]

Glock 17 for me. My Gen 1 has a high round count (was a range rental prior to me purchasing it) and I've got 20K through it. Other then routine spring replacements, I've done nothing to it.

Not a 226 fan, but have seen cracked slide rails on one, as well as on a personally owned 220.

Bottom line for me is that while a Glock has no soul, it has been totally reliable under a variety of conditions for me.

As always, YMMV.

 

[el Godfather]

I never understood the soul story
of innate objects.

 

[meanmrmustard]

I never understood the soul story ob innate objects.

Me, either. If my Glock starts talking to me, then there's a problem.

 

[el Godfather]

The SRT in tacops and elite model goves you excellent follow up shots.

 

[45_auto]

The SRT in tacops and elite model goves you excellent follow up shots.

Can you tell us what specific brands or models of pistols DON"T give excellent "follow up shots"?

 

[PabloJ]

I never understood the soul story
of innate objects.

It's 1911 kinda thing. You know my "pops or grandpa had one at Corregidor".

 

[the count]

I had a similar poll going a couple days ago using a fictitious setting (the THR gods did not approve) with those two guns plus 2 45s to choose from (1911 and HK45). When it ended after a total of 40 or so votes the Sig was ahead. In a duty/combat scenario one must take things into consideration that are totally different from range shooting. To make a long story short, I voted for the Glock even though I actually prefer to shoot the Sig. Reasons include.... Glock has no safety or decocker to think about. Much lighter to carry. Extremely reliable.

 

[easyg]

 

[postalnut25]

I would chose the Glock for duty out of these two. However, since I bought my own duty gun I chose an S&W.

The Glock is lighter. The Glock is dead nuts reliable. The ergonomics are better. P226s are huge, while the grip on a Glock fits a wider variety of hands. Duty gear is always in stock for Glocks since so many cops carry them. The magazines don't seem to get dinged up during your quals when you drop them since they are covered in polymer.

 

[allaroundhunter]

The SRT in tacops and elite model goves you excellent follow up shots

I get excellent follow-up shots with the standard trigger as well, you don't need to change the trigger in order for it to be good. There are not too many complaints about Sigs standard trigger.

 

[Sapper771]

This was a tough choice for me because I own and enjoy both Sigs and Glocks. I have carried a Glock on duty in the past, but it was the 17's meaner brother, the Glock 31.

Considering your points:

A: A duty weapon is required to be clean, lubricated, and functioning before the Officer's watch. Neither the Glock or the Sig comes ahead here.

B: Normally, Departments will qualify twice a year, and these days that means around 200-500 rounds per session (budget allowing). Most of the Officers I worked with do not practice off duty. Both the Sig and the Glock can handle this amount of ammo with no concerns.

C: This is mostly shooter dependent. Most people can adapt to whatever firearm they are issued , so ergos are a bit subjective. I think that the Sig has the better ergos, so Sig wins hSig, by opinion.

D: Both are reliable and combat accurate. The Sigs that I have fired have been more accurate than the Glocks that I have shot. Since we are only grading on combat accuracy and reliability, this is a tie.

E: I do not like the factory sights on a Glock. I like the factory contrast sights on the Sig. Both are usable, but the Sig sights are more durable and offer a better sight picture, IMO. Sig wins by opinion.

F: The Glock 17L and 17C models are not good duty weapons, IME. The Sig Elite, E2, Blackwater, Tactical Operations, etc. Could be used as duty pistols. While most of them have upgrades that are not needed, they can still be used. The only things that I would want on my Sig P226 duty pistol would be night sights, SRT, standard trigger, and a set of good grips. Sig, by experience.

G: N/A


I voted Sig based on the above points that are specified. I carry Glocks at the moment, and would not hesitate carrying one into battle.

 

[Striker]

I never understood the soul story
of innate objects.

Me, either. If my Glock starts talking to me, then there's a problem.

So I guess y'all don't name your cars either, eh?

 

[CZguy]

So I guess y'all don't name your cars either, eh?

Actually I don't name anything that isn't alive.

Both the Glock and Sig are good reliable duty pistols, but if given the choice I would rather carry a Sig.

 

[el Godfather]

45 Auto there are many. One for example is Sigma, and betwee Elite and G17, Elite works better for me.

 

[el Godfather]

Sapper771
Thank you for using the given criteria

 

[meanmrmustard]

So I guess y'all don't name your cars either, eh?

No. I'll name a car or gun when I name my tools, cuz they are just that, tools. I'd name a guinea pig though.

 

[JohnBiltz]

I don't name anything that will not respond when called, well, except for my cats. I don't believe in souls in guns unless someone can tell me where in the factory they are put in. Every time I hear someone say this gun has a soul I think less of the poster.

As to the criteria, I do think you selected criteria to skew the results of your poll because you said to disregard things that favored Glocks like price and aftermarket items but included things that favored Sigs like ergos. I could propose a poll between 1911s and a Glock 26 and use as my criteria that the size of the bullet and long range accuracy doesn't matter or I could do the same poll where weight, price size and capacity does not matter. I think the results would be very different and I think that is what you are trying to do here.

 

[Shipwreck]

I'll take Beretta 92 for the block

 

[Okiegunner]

Glock??

This will probably draw some Glock heat. I own a couple of different Sigs, a 226, and a poly 2340. As much as the 226 is legendary, in my opinion my 2340 is a better shooter. Next best in my lineup is a Yakuz-16, this pistol is an exact copy (clone) of the Beretta 92f.

As for me...I would have to say the Glock would be my 2nd choice.

 

[el Godfather]

Never heard if Yakuz. Where is it made?

 

[el Godfather]

How does Glock 17 ny trigger compare to sig srt?

 

[9mmepiphany]

They are completely different.

The SRT affects the distance from release to reset.

The NY trigger affects the feel/weight of the pre-travel/takeup before the release

 

[minutemen1776]

Interesting discussion. Here are some comments/questions:

1) I agree on the whole guns/souls thing. I don't get it either. This seems to come up mostly in discussions about revolvers and 1911s though.

2) These guns have been described as "dead nuts reliable." What, exactly, is is that dead nuts can reliably do? I can think of things they reliably CANNOT do.

3) Seriously, I have become interested in the Sig P226, and was looking at some CPO pistols last week. I was intrigued, though, with the new DAK pistols in the case. The trigger pull seemed really short and light. What do others think of these?

4) Finally, it's interesting that many comments have placed the P226 above the G17, but rate the G19 above both. That seems peculiar, but I think I see the point. I've no experience with Sigs, but I've had both a G17 and G19, and I infinitely preferred the G19. On paper, these two are barely different, but in the hand it's much different.

 

[9mmepiphany]

3) Seriously, I have become interested in the Sig P226, and was looking at some CPO pistols last week. I was intrigued, though, with the new DAK pistols in the case. The trigger pull seemed really short and light. What do others think of these?

The DAK is a very shootable trigger system and is especially adaptable for shooter who usually shoot revolvers.

They are run a little differently when shooting at speed (4-5rds/sec)

 

[el Godfather]

Heavier pull must result in slower rate of fire. So it seems?