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Glock 17 vs. Beretta 92FS

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by College Republican, Apr 5, 2008.

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  1. College Republican

    College Republican Member

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    I'm new to firearms, and I will probably be purchasing a 9mm because they are cheaper to shoot than .45. I'm leaning towards a Taurus PT92 (Beretta 92FS clone) or a Glock 17. I just want your opinions on which is the better pistol and why. Thanks.
     
  2. Devonai

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    Since the two pistols you listed are just about as different as pistols get, only you can determine which features are better for your needs.

    Both have excellent reputations for reliability, which includes my first-hand experience. That's a given. Both have lots of rounds available. After that the similarities diminish. A Taurus will probably be less expensive than a Beretta or Glock.

    Handle each, shoot each if you can. Chances are you will greatly prefer one over the other, and only you can make that determination.
     
  3. 10-Ring

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    If it were between the Beretta and the Glock I'd say it would be personal preference, but if it's between Glock and taurus, I'd say Glock because I've had poor experiences w/ the Tauri I've owned.
     
  4. Onmilo

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    I agree.
    Between Glock and Taurus, choose the Glock.
    Clones are never as good as the original.
    So if you were to choose between a Beretta 92FS and a Glock 17 it would hinge on which pistol felt better to you.
    Both are comparable in value.
     
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    A T-92 was the first handgun I ever bought, and I had problems with it. The double action was slipping, wouldn't pull the hammer all the way back to the rear before dropping it. I got rid of it. This was on the tail end of being an armorer, where I traded 87 old 1911s in for 87 new-in-the-cosmoline M-9s, which also had problems, albeit mostly from soldiers trying to tinker with them when they shouldn't have been. (I had to send a few out for service because they took off the grip panels, pulled out the springs that push the trigger forward, and couldn't put them back in correctly, and dameged them.)

    A Glock is a gun you can take for granted. Used, dirty, unknown origin, it has the highest likelihood of going bang every time. (I think we should be issuing our soldiers Glocks.)
     
  7. D-Man

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    My first gun was a Baby Desert Eagle in 9MM. One of the reasons I chose this was because of the decocker/safety, which would be used in the same manner as the one on the 92FS/PT92. This was something I felt more comfortable with at the time. I did sell the gun, and now my heavy range 9MM is a Sig P226ST with decocker only.

    The Glock 17 is a great gun....sure, it's a bit 'souless' (my opinion), but it will do everything you want it to. As long as you can accept the Glock trigger action, it's a great choice.

    As others have mentioned, even though it costs more, I'd much rather have the Beretta over the Taurus. And while you're at it, take a look at the S&W M&P 9MM too.
     
  8. RNB65

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    I'd take a Glock 17 over a 92 (Beretta or Taurus) any day because I've never cared for the 92. Glocks are ugly, but they just keeping going and going and going.
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    I'd take a Beretta 92 over a Glock any day, because I never cared for Glocks. Glocks are ugly and my Beretta keeps going and going and going..........:neener:
     
  10. Silvanus

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    I prefer Glocks. They are my favourite semi-autos. But Devonai is right, they are so different only you can determine what you want.

    How are your fellow forum members supposed to know what trigger action, look, material, ect. you prefer?
     
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    Of the choices the Glock gives you two more standard mag rounds in a gun slightly smaller but a Glock 19 gives you the same amount of rounds as the Beretta/Taurus in a much smaller package.

    Check out the 19 too...
     
  12. Onmilo

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    mljdeckard, I was a small arms repairman, 45B2 in the Army.
    Glock or Beretta it would not matter, soldiers would still tear it up.
    Once they figured out they could push the pins on a Glock out with the bullet tip of a cartridge and pull them free with a Leatherman, you would start getting pistols back in the arms room, I promise you this.

    I would get 1911A1s back to the repair shop every now and then with the sear springs pulled out into the magazine well because some GI though it was some sort of magazine brake!
    Guys were constantly breaking the plastic grip panels by overtightening the grip screws and just by smacking the guns against all sorts of stuff.
    They would end up unscrewing the grip bushings along with the screws because they would take the grip panels off and then cross thread the grip screws when reinstalling them.
    Believe me, if something can be screwed up, a GI is more than capable of performing the assigned task.
     
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    Got them both. I prefer the Glock. I dont like the idea of an external safety to get in the way if I were ever to need the gun. I think in the heat of the moment when the world has turned to s*** I might forget to take the safety off. That being said my Beretta 92 goes to the range every time I go
     
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    College Republican. You are looking at two VERY different pistols.

    In common:
    Semi-auto
    relatively hi-cap
    9mm

    Different:
    One is striker fired, one is DA/SA
    One is a higher priced, highly regarded pistol. The other is an "economy" knock off of a fine european gun. (albeit, a generally well made knock off)
    One is significantly larger than the other (the 92 being larger).
    One is plastic and the other is metal.

    If you want a better comparison, look to compare a Beretta 92fs with a CZ75, baby eagle, Ruger P89, S&W 5906, etc...
    And compare the Glock with the S&W M&P9, Springfield Armory XD, Sigpro, Ruger SR9, etc...

    But you really need to decide what features you are looking for first. Have you shot either of them? It really might help you decide for yourself.
     
  15. College Republican

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    I have never been to a gun range to shoot. (I was raised by Anti-gun parents). I will have to go to a gun range to try them out. I just wanted to know what the differences and relative advantages/disadvantages one has over the other. I heard that the Glock is lighter and you feel more recoil, and has more trigger pull issues because of how it is built. Could someone explain how the safety on a Glock works?
     
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    The Glock does not have an external safety. If you pull the trigger (and that is easy to do everytime) the gun will go off.

    The 92FS has an external safety-decocker mounted on the slide. If it's on, the gun will not shoot. If it is on, then taken off, the gun will shoot, but the first trigger pull will be harder.

    Because the safety is on the slide, it is possibly to inadvertently turn on the safety while racking the gun. If you later need it in a hurry, you sadly have a paperweight, until you figure out what happened and fix it.

    A solution is to find a 92G. This has a decocker only - it lets the trigger fall without letting the gun go off, requiring the heavier first shot. You don't end up with a paperweight, but it is a little more difficult to let off the first shot accidentally, during an adrenaline dump. This is the configuration I use for my home defense pistol.

    The US military has tested and debugged the 92 thoroughly. They are reliable.
     
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    ... so the push button slide launcher has been fixed? [​IMG]
     
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    they are totally different hadguns, but with that said i would take the glock all day long. i am not a fan of da/sa and the ergos of the berretta suck for me, more so than the glock, also i love striker fired poly guns, so the choice for me would be clear.
     
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    What is your purpose for the pistol in question? Range time, concealed carry, etc?

    If this pistol is for CCW, I'd choose the Glock, but not a G17-too big. I would opt for the G19 or G26 and carry full-size G17 mags for back-up.

    If you're looking for something else, the Beretta is a great choice, but I'd avoid it for CCW because of the size. I do like the Beretta trigger better than Glock, as well as aesthetics.

    Just my opinion, of course.

    FWIW.. I carry Glocks, but am in the market for a Beretta 92FS, 90-Two, or S&W M&P 9mm in mid or full-size.

    Regarding the OP's question about the Glock safety- this is from Glock's website:

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    Safe and ingeniously simple: Contrary to conventional, the trigger is the only operating element. All three pistol safeties are deactivated when the trigger is pulled -and automatically activated when it is released.
     
  20. DawgFvr

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    True...they are different handguns. Hell...I'd take a Beretta over a Glock any time of the day...that is like comparing a Ferarri to a Chevy.
     
  21. medmo

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    You really should shoot both of them before you buy either to find out which one you prefer. Theya are very different. I own both a Glock 19 and a Beretta 92G and haven't had problems with either of them. If I had to get rid of one of them I would keep the Beretta only because I enjoy shooting it more. I wouldn't consider a Taurus because of the bad experiences I have had with their customer service.

    Onmil,

    Your post reminds me of the words from a captain years ago: "You damn enlisted. If you can't eat it or fornicate with it you will break it." This was after a Lcpl took a part his NVGs to see what was inside and couldn't get them back together.
     
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    Neither are better. Both designs are good enough for Armies and police depts. to issue them.

    Since you aren't a draftee, you actually have a choice. Choose the one that feels best in your hands. They are both more accurate that you are.
     
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    Bullet,

    The only thing I found convincing from those links is you shouldn't lend any of your guns to that guy in the video.

    That was really unsafe for him not to check the bore before dumping the mags of either pistol.
     
  25. Zundfolge

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    Frankly the Taurus is an improved copy of the Beretta ... slide mounted safeties are for Makarovs, PPKs and el chepo pocket pistols. Taurus was smart enough to move the safety to the frame where it belongs.

    As for the Taurus vs the Glock ... can't go wrong with either (the Taurus will have the better trigger out of the box, but Glocks are boringly reliable).


    Honestly, Beretta handguns are somewhat over-rated ... they aren't bad pistols but they're not any better than the Taurus clones.


    Or you could forget both and get a CZ.
     
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