Glock 17 vs. Beretta 92FS

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Different pistols, but the Taurus PT92 is a perfectly good pistol If you look around, you will find guys that hate Glock, HK, Ruger, Wilson, Kimber, Smith & Wesson and every other manufacturer, often justifiably, but occasionally not. Everyone can get a lemon, I guess. The PT92 is a good pistol, and even ol' Massad Ayoob says as much in the 5th edition of Combat Handgunnery. As a matter of fact, some even like it better than the Beretta because the Taurus has a frame mounted safety.

I trust mine enough that I have a locked and loaded one sitting about a foot away from me right now.
 
Got them both. I prefer the Glock. I dont like the idea of an external safety to get in the way if I were ever to need the gun. I think in the heat of the moment when the world has turned to s*** I might forget to take the safety off.
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If failing to activate the safety in times of stress is a concern, carry the pistol with the safety off- it's every bit as safe in that mode as any other conventional da only pistol or da revolver is.
 
Beretta. Better looks. Better single-action trigger. Better quality. 500 years of history.
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Sigh... Beretta sold their Brazilian factory to Taurus and licensed them to make the PT92. It's made on Beretta machinery and it's made to Beretta specs. The 500 years of history argument is meaningless, since Taurus reaped direct benefits from Berettas 500 years of history. Having shot both, I can honestly and objectively say that one is just as good as the other, and with the exception of the location of the safety, I honestly don't think I could tell the difference between the two if I was blindfolded. I would also add that you get a perfectly good gun for a couple of hundred dollars less. If a marginally better finish is worth it to you, party on.
 
I own all 3 though my Glock is a 19 and my Taurus is an earlier PT92 without the hammer drop safety feature. Each one has over 10K rounds through them without any problems and are extremely reliable.

The Beretta is definitely a little better in fit and finish than the Taurus and it does have a smoother trigger which results in a bit more accuracy. The Taurus gets carried in my car, the Glock gets the most on person carry time and the Beretta mostly just takes trips to the range.

I have no trouble recommending any of these pistols and you should do fine with whichever you choose.
 
Shoot them both and then decide. The glock has a reputation for excellent reliability, the beretta has a reputation for excellent accuracy. the G-17 holds 17+1, and the 92 holds 15+1. I like Glocks personally.
 
The 92fs can use the 90 two mags for 17+1. Beretta beats taurus anyday. I like both, you cant go wrong!
 
Bullet: What, "scratching my head", was that video all about? Certainly that was one of the more unsafe things to do let alone post on a weapon's forum. For shame. First thing I learned in the Army was to not...not ever, drop my weapon...let alone in water. I guess my conception of a "superior" weapon is much different than yours...eh? Perhaps I offended with my Ferrari vs. Chevy analogy. Ok...let's just say the Beretta is more akin to Fine Art as Glock falls into the Graffiti column.
 
DawgFvr

The link I posted has been posted here before. I just used it to show what I believe is Beretta’s weakness vs. Glock. I like them both and if only used as range guns take your pick.

First thing I learned in the Army was to not...not ever, drop my weapon...let alone in water.
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Probably because it was a Beretta :rolleyes:.
 
Like some of the others already said.
Beretta vs. Glock
Get the one you like better.
For me it would be the Glock just because I have never like da/sa triggers. Beretta 92fs is a nice gun though.
Taurus vs Glock
Get the Glock...just because the other choice is Taurus.
lol..others can flame away if they like..I was treated way to poorly by Taurus customer service to ever say anything nice about them again.
 
The G17. It is affordable, reliable, size efficient, with readily available and affordable parts and accessories.
 
First, I have a Glock 19 & 26. I shoot them both well and love the fact that there is no safety and when a round is chambered it acts like a DA revolver, pull the trigger & boom!

My standard line is, "Glock makes the BEST 9mm pistol. They are accurate, reliable, and prictically indestructible". I Also have a Beretta 92FS INOX. It's a beautiful gun. That's why I bought it because it is "Beautiful". It does shoot 1" to the left @ 7 yards and the grip is larger than the glock.

I would NOT get the Taurus. IMHO Taurus firearms suck. Now between the Beretta 92FS & Glock 17 I'd choose the Glock. Unless you shoot them both and happen th shoot the Beretta Better then go with the one you feel most cumfortable with.
 
Timbokhan - I like the Taurus PT92 almost as much as the Beretta. I was saying it over the Glock, which itself ain't bad. That's just how I feel right now, though. I could flop back toward the plastic side of the Force.
 
Also, if worried about the safety on the Beretta "coming on" in times of stress - Ayoob teaches that the high thumb hold, like on the 1911, keeps the safety in the "bang" position. Those little shelves at the top of the 92 grips are great for keeping your thumbs up so the slide levers don't go down.
 
Originally Posted by bobn
The US military has tested and debugged the 92 thoroughly. They are reliable.
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nalioth said:
... so the push button slide launcher has been fixed?
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15, 20 years ago, I think.

If you weren't a Linux person and an IRC person, I'd have to give you grief over that cheap shot.
 
Shoot them both at the range, but also shoot a S&W M&P9mm while there. I have them all...bought the M&P new for $400 at a gun show just because I "had" to buy something and it has turned out to be one of the most comfortable pistols I have ever held in my hand. It's not as sexy as the Beretta and it's not as ugly as the Glock, but it actually feels better than either and shoots just as well. S&W is also offering a factory rebate of $50 and 2 spare mags through the end of April '08 with the purchase of a new M&P. Ferrari to Chevy is a fair comparison...Ferrari will need a lot more pampering and attention than a Chevy...but they look better. Italians are artistic...period.
 
I do not disagree with most of the folks here. What I feel you need to do is go to your local gun shop and handle both. They use different internal mechanics to accomplish the same thing, get bullets down range. Take a sheet of paper and write down what you like about each and what you don’t and while you’re there look at other options. Find what you like and then make your choice. Both guns are great but there are others out there that may fit you better. The first firearm is always the hardest. Most of us have bought and sold many guns until we find the one we really like.

So good luck!
 
Bullet,

The only thing I found convincing from those links is you shouldn't lend any of your guns to that guy in the video.

That was really unsafe for him not to check the bore before dumping the mags of either pistol.
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You obviously know little or nothing about handguns if you think something horrible was going to happen after the guns were dunked in leafy water. Both guns have survived FAR worse in military/police trails than being dunked in silty water without blowing up as you apparently think was going to happen.

Here's a tip, get out in the real world and use your guns as they were designed to be used before you ride other people about "safety".

I'm the guy in the video and I know more about the limits of the M9 and G17 than you'll ever know because unlike you, I've actually used them in adverse conditions.

Don't talk trash on me or anyone else about safety just because you're too scared to drop your handgun in water.
 
Certainly that was one of the more unsafe things to do let alone post on a weapon's forum. For shame. First thing I learned in the Army was to not...not ever, drop my weapon...let alone in water.
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LOL, you have to be kidding me. What branch of service were you in? In the Marines (0311) we crawled through mud, water, sand, silt, etc. with our weapons. We often had to fire our weapons after coming ashore from the water... The last time I checked combat took place in places other than your local airsoft range or painball field... The complete lack of experience here cracks me up.
 
I've got a Beretta px4 and I love it, used to have a glock 22, liked it fine but I wanted something SA/DA with a manual safety. I feel safer carrying a round chambered that way. I've never had ANY issues with either. They are both fine guns, pick the one that feels better.
 
I've got both the Beretta 92FS & the Glock 17A. I like both.
If I was buying as a carry pistol either would do, but the Glock will be more concealable.
If I was buying on the basis of asthetics or pride of ownership, then the Beretta wins.
If buying for gun games such as IPSC or IDPA the Glock wins due to the faster trigger reset and the reduced muzzle flip it's low bore/high grip offers.

The only modification I would make to the Beretta is to install a factory 'd' or reduced power hammerspring to bring the double action trigger pull down from 12 pounds to 8 pounds.

The Glock would receive after market sights such as Heine straight eights and a 3.5 pound factory trigger connector, which will drop the double action trigger pull down to around 5.5 pounds.

I am not a fan of Taurus pistols or revolvers, a search on this forum will bring up many threads concerning poor quality control, long lead times on repairs, etc, etc.

Personally I think you should buy both. Then a 1911, then a CZ, then a Webley, then a S&W........
 
Forget the Taurus....the 92 is too heavy and too fat.

The Glock is the way to go....when both pistols are unloaded the Glock weighs 12 oz less than the 92.
Who needs an extra 12 oz on their side for no additional performance gain?
 
sturmgewehr : A little experience: US Army...22 years. Are you telling me that dropping weapons is an acceptable practice in the Marine Corps? I always thought Marines had respect for their weapons. When I was a drill sergeant, I used to love catching a trainee dropping their weapons...it called for his/her instant education on the subject. Not worried about water...I don't much care for the soldier losing their weapon while climbing cliffs, rope bridges, etc. It makes them hard to fire in over watch positions or flanking maneuvers when you don't have them in your hand. See...we just do not train coming out of water onto shore...jeesh! Have you ever witnessed a barrel split after being plugged with mud?

That was you in the film? Sorry for you...it was bad.
 
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