Glock 19 Trigger Bar broken or not?

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  1. sarduy

    sarduy Member

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    Hello THR,

    i was cleaning my glock today when i notice something that i haven't notice before, the trigger bar have thing that look like a crack, and to be honest i cant see if it's broken or not, i just can't tell. i look at some pic online and they didn't help at all, some look just like mine and other look fine.

    the image named Glock_Trigger is from mine, i circle what i think it's a crack in the trigger bar, but i'm not sure,

    i attached another image i found just for reference,

    if something can take a look at your glock and tell me if that's normal, it would be great, Thanks.
     

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  2. Telekinesis

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    Detail strip the gun (not hard to do and there are plenty of YouTube vids on how to do it) and pull out the trigger bar and take a closer look. If in doubt at that point, I'd just replace it to be on the safe side. Most Glock parts aren't that expensive.
     
  3. rcmodel

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    I'm sure no Glock expert.

    But I've seen a few cracks in my day.

    And that sure looks like a crack to me.
    One both sides.

    My old Glock 23 is smooth as a maidens cheek clear across the top in that area.

    rc
     
  4. JohnKSa

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    Detail strip the gun, carefully clean the part and look at it from the front under magnification and under a good light. There is a stamping seam right where the "crack" appears in the picture so looking at it from the top or bottom will make it difficult to accurately assess things. If the part is cracked, you should be able to see the break when looking at the front edge of where the "crack" appears on the top and bottom of the part.

    If you're lucky, you may be able to get a good enough view from the front of the trigger bar with the part installed. Just clean the area well before making the examination.
     
  5. area51

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    My g23 has the same "crack" .. I think it's a casting issue. I'll post a picture tomorrow
     
  6. ku4hx

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    Oh yeah,I'd replace that for sure. $16.98 at Lone Wolf right now ... too cheap to worry about.
     
  7. RustyShackelford

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    Glock stuff; Glock trained armorer

    It looks cracked to me, :uhoh: .
    As noted, you can do some "kitchen table gunsmithing" & fix the Glock part yourself or you can run it by a Glock certified armorer. My area has a few gun shops & places that have professional gunsmiths on staff.
    I've had minor work done to pistols in the past & the fee was only $15-20.00.

    If you want to order the parts or DIY it, check these great Glock resources;
    www.brownells.com www.glockstore.com www.customizeyourglock.com www.glockworx.com www.glockmeister.com .
    It seems safer & prudent just to replace the Glock part(s) then wonder if the piece is cracked or damaged.
     
  8. cocojo

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    Glock's have that crease in the cruciform because it's a stamped part. They all have it, some more, some less because they adjust the rear of the cruciform to fit the firing pin striker. Unless it's right through the metal it's not a crack it's a creased stamped part. I can't tell that from the photo. I can tell you I have never seem one crack there.
     
  9. g.willikers

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    Test it with point of a sharp pocket knife or a dental pick.
    If it's a crack the tool will stick in it.
    If the surface is smooth then no crack.
     
  10. RussellC

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    Just dis assemble the thing and clean for heavens sake! Once trigger assembly is out you can tell. While its out (if ok) or on the new one (if it is cracked) take a dremel with tiny buffing pad and using metal polish (Dremel stuff of Flitz's) polish the tail and top of the cruciform. Pop out the connector and polish the edge where it contacts the trigger bar. Finish off by removing and polishing the head of the little safety plug. Remove firing pin and polish the lug. 20 mins to a better trigger.

    As others have said you tube is your friend. Dont be afraid to push out the pins (left to right, install backwards, right to left) its a very simple "assembly"

    Russellc
     
  11. RussellC

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    Good high rez pic. I bumped it up several knotches, and it does "appear" to be a crack on the one side...sort of jagged rather than like the stamp mark on the other side. You should be able to tell once cleaned. Or, like Rusty said, just replace it. The stock Glock parts are very inexpensive.

    Russellc
     
  12. LiveLife

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    What appears to be a crack could be stamping crease. And checking with a knife/sharp tool may not verify it 100%.

    Before you replace the part, I would test the "crack" with needle nose pliers by applying bending force opposite the crack under bright lighting and magnification.

    If the part is indeed cracked, the space would widen and bend the metal. If it is stamping crease, the crack would not change and metal part would feel solid.

    Of course, if you are not sure, you can always replace the part but hate to see you post that you saw the same "crack/crease" in the new replacement part. ;)
     
  13. Jaymo

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    What looks to be a dirty gun may be moly paste on the internals.
    That's what it looks like, to me.

    Excepting what appear to be unburnt grains of powder, of course.
     
  14. RussellC

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    Too much lubricant attracts dirt, mostly from firing the gun. It needs cleaned badly and lubed per Glock spec, which is not like that.
     
  15. RussellC

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    Yup, there is a stamping crease on both sides of my Glocks. The one indicated looks sort of jagged, the other smooth and straight. It very well be only dirt on the crease, a good cleaning would help reveal.

    Russellc
     
  16. RussellC

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    Here's mine: Not that it matters much, a Glock is reliable and will function in almost any state! But it would make it easier to determine if cracked.
     

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  17. jmr40

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    I own 7 Glocks. Just looked at 6 of them and they all have the same "crack". Nothing to worry about.
     
  18. dprice3844444

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    throw it in the dishwasher and check it again.harbour freight has magnifiers
     
  19. MIL-DOT

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    Mine look identical, even down to the "squiggly" line. If you'd have taken the picture from as slightly different angle, so the light could get into the "crack" a little better, and using a magnifying glass, you'll probably see that it's solid.
     
  20. FireInCairo

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    It's not a crack, it's a press crease. Those parts are pressed to form. It's typical.
     
  21. jon_in_wv

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    Glocks can't break. They are indestructible. At least, thats what they say.
     
  22. sarduy

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    update

    Update:

    Hello guys,

    i think i fail to mention that the second picture i attached to the OP was a pic i found on the internet as a reference to what i was talking about. I don't keep my Glock with that much oil. This is what i did, i clean it very well and toke a very close look at it with a big Magnifying Class using a 150 lumes flashlight and it's not broken :) it just a crease from the manufacturing process and nothing to worry about.

    i have added a picture if how it look now
     

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  23. RussellC

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    very nice and clean....glad it wasnt a crack, just the way it looked with the crease mark...good deal.

    Russellc
     
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