Glock 19 vs Glock 17

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  1. MrRob

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    Im new to the board, but have been shooting handguns and rifles my whole life. Im trying to decide between getting a full sized Glock 17 vs a medium sixed Glock 19.

    They would probably see occasional CCW use, but are more likely to spend time as a "truck" gun and a range gun. I might also be interested in shooting some IDPA with it as well. I've shot a Glock 17 before, years ago, and loved it, and Ive owned and shot both Glock 22s and 23s before as well; but never shot a Glock 19 in 9mm.

    I already have several fullsized pistols: a 1911 .45, a used expolice Glock 22 .40, and a SigSauer 226 9mm as well as one smaller pistol, a S&W Jframe .38.
    Ive usually used the J frame for CCW in a front pocket holster when I carry, but since I have to enter government buildings with metal detectors quite often for work, subsequently, I don't really CCW into the office every day and usually the J frame stays in the truck.
    FWIW, I have zero complains about the J frame, other than than it only has 5 rounds. I knew that going in, so not really complaining, just, I think I might want more firepower on the occasions I do CCW.


    Im 6ft tall and 230lbs so I think I could conceal most full sized pistols, and have with an IWB holster, with a jacket before during the fall or winter. BUT, I live in the south, and During summer months its too hot to regularly wear a jacket.

    Thing is - since this may only be for "occasional" CCW, part of me thinks getting the full sized G17 is the way to go - because it will likely be easier to handle and shoot on the range - and I would almost certianly like using it in IDPA. (Also FYI: Ive shot IDPA before with the Sig 9mm, but didnt always like the double action first shot, and its been finicky lately - which is disturbing in a Sig. Ive also shot IDPA with my Glock .40, but it was a little too snappy for me for accurate multiple shots. Im in the high Marksman/Low Sharpshooter classification range and I shoot for practical practice, not gaming)


    Lastly, FWIW Ive had the midsized .40 cal Glock before (23) and part of me liked it alot, but I definitely thought the recoil in it was too snappy to be easy to shoot. Lately my

    I do understand that it is entirely likely that I may end up buying both the G19 and the G17 eventually, but I only have the $ to buy one for now. Maybe can get the other next year.

    If I could only get one now ... Which one should it be?

    Sorry for the long post. Thanks in advance for your advice.
     
  2. wgp

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    Other than specialty handguns (hunting revolvers, that sort of thing), my focus these days is on pistols that I can use for carry. Therefore I have gone with the mid-size Glocks (a 19 and two 23s). I don't mind giving up a couple of rounds in what is still a high-capacity pistol.
     
  3. X-Rap

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    I have some of each and the full sized ones sit most of the time. I am in an ongoing process of selling, trading or giving away my full size Glocks and maybe picking up a 26 or 27 to go along with the 19, 23, and 32.
    I actually shoot the 19 better than the 17 but that probably has more to do with me just shooting it more. To me they are purely a SD weapon so I'm not using them for Bulls eye competition or anything like that.
     
  4. ForumSurfer

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    I don't like the fullsized glock frames. I've owned a 26, 19, 17 and 34...all gen4. I only kept the 19 and the 26. I liked the sight radius on the 34 and I'd choose it over a 17 all day long and twice on Sundays. I managed to carry it concealed without issue and the sight radius over the 17, and especially the 19 gives you a huge benefit if you can take advantage of it.

    But, I just don't like the full size glock grip frame. It doesn't feel right to me. The 19 on the other hand, feels right to me. Try as I may, I just didn't like the full size. I'd recommend running a few hundred rounds through each to see what you like.

    I doubt you'd ever ccw with either if you like to ccw with the j frame. I carry the 26 most often appendix carry and rarely, if ever do I carry the 19. On days I do carry it, I could just as easily carry a 34 in the same gear.
     
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    make sure when you buy one,you make sure it has a smooth trigger instead of a serated one,easier on the finger tips
     
  6. 7thCavScout

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    Welcome to THR!
    I have both the 17 (Gen 4) and the 19 (Gen 3). If I was going to recommend one over the other, or if I could only have one it would be the 19. I just feel that (for me) the 19 feels better, conceals better, and for some reason I just plain shoot better with it. In fact if I could only own one handgun it would be a (Gen. 3) Glock 19.
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  7. ForumSurfer

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    Only the full sized models have that. It only costs $15 or less, so I bought a full sized 17 trigger for my 19 and my 26 because I like the smooth face. I don't find it any easier on the finger, I just prefer the feel of it.
     
  8. dogtown tom

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    ALL 9mm & .40 compact and subcompact Glocks have the serrated trigger.......they need them to earn enough points to be imported. The standard frame Glocks already earn enough import points so a serrated or "target" trigger is not needed.
     
  9. X-Rap

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    Frankly I never noticed, my hands are quite calloused so the serrations were never felt but I just checked a couple close by and it is correct.
     
  10. jon86

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    I have a 17 that I occasionally carry. A 19 would be a *bit* easier to conceal though. I say shoot them both, then decide.
     
  11. jem375

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    For me it would be the G17 over the 19, I carried a G26 for a few months and the 19 is only a shade bigger. I shoot the 17 much better...
     
  12. GLOOB

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    The hump on the G19/23 is higher. This effectively increases the grip angle. The G19/23 points the highest of any of the Glock models.

    Greater grip angle results in a lower bore axis.

    This is probably one reason why the G23 has such a reputation for snappiness. Low bore axis is good up to a limit. Heavy recoil and low bore axis isn't necessarily a good combination in a lightweight handgun. But the same angles work really well in 9mm for most shooters.

    So you might prefer the G19 over the G17, yet prefer the G22 over the G23. That would not be surprising, at all.
     
  13. jmr40

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    I have all 3 frame sizes. Nothing wrong with any of them, but I didn't shoot my 17 any better or worse than the 19. Since they both performed equally and I just liked the smaller size of the 19 better I gave my 17 to my son when he turned 21 and bought another 19 for me. Only 2 rounds different and I can use 17 or 33 round magazines in any of them.
     
  14. boricua9mm

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    This is very simple, really. If you know that you like Glocks, you really don't even need to shoot a 19 to know if it'll work out for you. If you get along with the grip angle, trigger and general ergonomics of the Glock, then you just need to see if you like how the G19 fills your hand. To me, the firing characteristics for all the Glock 9mms are very similar from the larger G34 all the way down to the G26 (haven't fired a 17L, but I'm sure it's smooth). The main differences are how the grip frames fill your hand.

    If your hands aren't too big and the G19 grip fits your hand just fine, then it will be a better choice for CCW since hiding a shorter grip is easier than trying to hide a longer one.

    YMMV...
     
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    I don't care for the way my finger rests on the "gap" between the G19 grip frame and the floorplate.

    A minor issue for sure.

    The "full size" G17 just isn't very big in its own right.

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  16. MrRob

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    All very helpful opinions, and I'm leaning towards a G19 for now...

    BUT what about Generation 4 vs Generation 3?

    I've read some reliability complaints on the boards about 4th Gen 9mms, maybe because of the recoils spring. Is that a real problem or had it been addressed? (My old police Glock 22 that I have is second generation, with no finger grooves)

    I liked the way a 4th Gen G19 felt in the hand better though, liked the new G17 too. I'm not ergonomist, but they both felt almost equally comfortable in my medium sized hands. The lady at the gun club tried them both with me and said she liked the feel of the new style in her hands as well.

    So should I look around for a good 3rd Gen Glock or just buy the 4th Gen one I handled at the store?
     
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    I would go Gen3 all the way for the 9x19. And I'm a Glock guy.

    As an occasional carry a G17 shouldn't be too terrible if you have a good belt, a good holster, and accept a little bit of printing when you lean forward, bend over, etc. I've been conceal carrying my G21SF as much as anything else recently. .I also have a 19 and a 26, and I have spent a lot of time shooting a 17.

    If concealing it well, or something resembling 'well', is important, 19. If just getting by on the concealment from time to time is all you ask, get the 17.
     
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    The 17 feels way better in my hands than the 19. I'm guessing it has something to do with where the "hump" fits against my palm.
     
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    A generation 3 G19 has been the most reliable automatic pistol I have ever owned. Therefore it is my primary carry firearm 90% of the time with an equally reliable Smith 638 taking up the other 10% for short jaunts or athletic endeavors that do not allow the Glock. I cannot speak to the Gen4, but the Gen3 is as good as it gets in my book.
     
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    I'd get the one I shoot better. For me, that's the G17. I've owned 5-6 G19s over the years and they're all gone now. I even shoot the G26 better.
     
  21. GLOOB

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    In my opinion, they make the Gen3 Glocks in 40SW because they can. They make the Gen 4 Glocks in 9mm, because they can. But the Gen 3 is optimally sprung for 9mm, and the Gen 4 is optimally sprung for 40SW or +P 9mm. The Gen 4 works pretty much flawlessly for me in 9mm, but for those with a weaker grip, the cases barely dribble out with standard pressure ammo.
     
  22. greenlion

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    Gen 3 GLOCK 19. Best all-round gun GLOCK makes.
     
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    I picked up a Gen4 Glock 19 recently in a trade, and had planned to just hang on to it as trade fodder. But, I absolutely love it! I'm not a Glock fan nor am I a hater, but this is the first one that I've liked THIS much. I had shot a friend's Gen 3 17 as well as several other .40 and .45 models, but in my opinion this 19 feels best of all the ones I've handled.
     
  24. Averageman

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    I have two G17's and a G26.
    I think that the 19 is nice, but it isnt a IDPA gun and if you can conceal a 19, you can conceal a 17. If you can't conceal a 17, then get a 26.
    The point is the mid size gun isn't that much better than either the 17 or 26.
     
  25. Ben86

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    I choose the G19 over all others for the simple fact that I shoot it better and it happens to conceal significantly better than the G17. That extra half inch or so makes a big difference to me. I'm not really sure why I shoot the G19 better than the G17, perhaps it's the way the hump mates perfectly with my palm? Shoots better, conceals better, it's an obvious choice for me.

    I'd go with a Gen4 if I was to buy another. They seem to have the bugs worked out now, and the improvements are pretty nice. I find the new texture to be more comfortable and secure than the standard grenade checkering.
     
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