My buddy is waiting for a return call. The barrel is fitted properly, but appears to be out of spec. It will run with a couple layers of metal tape between the lugs. I was surprised to learn the stock barrel has the same issue, but to a lesser degree.
Glock 21 Malfunctions
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My example of the Glock G21 with a properly fitted Bar-Sto barrel has had no feeding issues with SWC profile. I can only speak for my example others may be problematic.
No problems feeding.
My buddy contacted BarSto and tried their suggestions. After talking with the armorer they agree it's not a fitting issue. It will run with RN or RNFP, but the extracted case still drags across the next round. The stock barrel still does the same, but not as severely.
The SWCs will not work in this gun. The same batch of ammo has been fired in two other 21s, several 1911s and a SIG without issue. Until a couple days ago we had not noticed the extracted case was hitting the nose of the bullet as well as the shoulder.
BarSto asked for the barrel and a batch of the ammo. We'll see.
The SWCs will not work in this gun. The same batch of ammo has been fired in two other 21s, several 1911s and a SIG without issue. Until a couple days ago we had not noticed the extracted case was hitting the nose of the bullet as well as the shoulder.
BarSto asked for the barrel and a batch of the ammo. We'll see.
EddieNFL:
OK, I gotta jump in on this one. You are not alone with .45 SWC extraction problems in pistols using the modified Browning locking system. I have an XD-45, and experience the same problem with SWC's. The problem is that the barrel breech cams down far enough during the initial unlocking motion, that the lip of the extracing case head hangs up on the shoulder of next round in the magazine. It's interesting to know the Glock 21 does this too. I have heard the XDm45 will feed SWC's, but I haven't shot one yet.
I was kind of upset when I found this out. I had just purchased the XD, after shooting a friend's, and had high expectations. However, on my first shooting session, the first round out the pipe jammed a case in the action miserably, real mangled like. I proceded to try several more with identical results. These cases failed to clear the action too, kind of like a stovepipe, but they were pretty mangled up, the rims were bent back by the extractor, beyond all hope of ever reloading them. I cycled the action by hand, watching for what was wrong, but all worked properly. Finally I could see what was going on, and was kind of bummed because I couldn't use my pet SWC's.
Anyway, all ended well, I ordered a Lee 200 grain round nose flat point boolit mold. There is enough of an ogive on this boolit that the extracted case lip glides over it, no more problems. And, I just love this Boolit, I may just not use my SWC mold again.
So long story short, the little bit of trimming you did in fitting your aftermarket barrel really has nothing to do with how far the breech is designed to drop during unlocking. It's just the way the gun works. If you are wanting to shoot lead, try the Lee 200 RNFP's, I love them.
Here's my XD and a 25 yard target using the RNFP's, I think with bit more load development and a steadier rest, the gun is capable of smaller groups.
OK, I gotta jump in on this one. You are not alone with .45 SWC extraction problems in pistols using the modified Browning locking system. I have an XD-45, and experience the same problem with SWC's. The problem is that the barrel breech cams down far enough during the initial unlocking motion, that the lip of the extracing case head hangs up on the shoulder of next round in the magazine. It's interesting to know the Glock 21 does this too. I have heard the XDm45 will feed SWC's, but I haven't shot one yet.
I was kind of upset when I found this out. I had just purchased the XD, after shooting a friend's, and had high expectations. However, on my first shooting session, the first round out the pipe jammed a case in the action miserably, real mangled like. I proceded to try several more with identical results. These cases failed to clear the action too, kind of like a stovepipe, but they were pretty mangled up, the rims were bent back by the extractor, beyond all hope of ever reloading them. I cycled the action by hand, watching for what was wrong, but all worked properly. Finally I could see what was going on, and was kind of bummed because I couldn't use my pet SWC's.
Anyway, all ended well, I ordered a Lee 200 grain round nose flat point boolit mold. There is enough of an ogive on this boolit that the extracted case lip glides over it, no more problems. And, I just love this Boolit, I may just not use my SWC mold again.
So long story short, the little bit of trimming you did in fitting your aftermarket barrel really has nothing to do with how far the breech is designed to drop during unlocking. It's just the way the gun works. If you are wanting to shoot lead, try the Lee 200 RNFP's, I love them.
Here's my XD and a 25 yard target using the RNFP's, I think with bit more load development and a steadier rest, the gun is capable of smaller groups.
EddieNFL:
OK, I gotta jump in on this one. You are not alone with .45 SWC extraction problems in pistols using the modified Browning locking system. I have and XD-45, and experience the same problem with SWC's. The problem is that the barrel breech cams down far enough during the initial inlocking motion, that the lip of the extracing case head hangs up on the shoulder of next round in the magazine. It's interesting to know the Glock 21 does this too. I have heard the XDm45 will feed SWC's, but I haven't shot one yet.
I was kind of upset when I found this out. I had just purchased the XD, after shooting a friend's, and had high expectations. However, on my first shooting session, the first round out the pipe jammed a case in the action miserably, real mangled like. I proceded to try several more with identical results. These cases failed to clear the action too, kind of like a stovepipe, but they were pretty mangled up, the rims were bent back by the extractor, beyond all hope of ever reloading them. I cycled the action by hand, watching for what was wrong, but all worked properly. Finally I could see what was going on, and was kind of bummed because I couldn't use my pet SWC's.
Anyway, all ended well, I ordered a Lee 200 grain round nose flat point boolit mold. There is enough of an ogive on this boolit that the extracted case lip glides over it, no more problems. And, I just love this Boolit, I may just not use my SWC mold again.
So long story short, the little bit of trimming you did in fitting your aftermarket barrel really has nothing to do with how far the breech is designed to drop during unlocking. It's just the way the gun works. If you are wanting to shoot lead, try the Lee 200 RNFP's, I love them.
Here's my XD and a 25 yard target using the RNFP's, I think with bit more load development and a steadier rest, the gun is capable of smaller groups.
OK, I gotta jump in on this one. You are not alone with .45 SWC extraction problems in pistols using the modified Browning locking system. I have and XD-45, and experience the same problem with SWC's. The problem is that the barrel breech cams down far enough during the initial inlocking motion, that the lip of the extracing case head hangs up on the shoulder of next round in the magazine. It's interesting to know the Glock 21 does this too. I have heard the XDm45 will feed SWC's, but I haven't shot one yet.
I was kind of upset when I found this out. I had just purchased the XD, after shooting a friend's, and had high expectations. However, on my first shooting session, the first round out the pipe jammed a case in the action miserably, real mangled like. I proceded to try several more with identical results. These cases failed to clear the action too, kind of like a stovepipe, but they were pretty mangled up, the rims were bent back by the extractor, beyond all hope of ever reloading them. I cycled the action by hand, watching for what was wrong, but all worked properly. Finally I could see what was going on, and was kind of bummed because I couldn't use my pet SWC's.
Anyway, all ended well, I ordered a Lee 200 grain round nose flat point boolit mold. There is enough of an ogive on this boolit that the extracted case lip glides over it, no more problems. And, I just love this Boolit, I may just not use my SWC mold again.
So long story short, the little bit of trimming you did in fitting your aftermarket barrel really has nothing to do with how far the breech is designed to drop during unlocking. It's just the way the gun works. If you are wanting to shoot lead, try the Lee 200 RNFP's, I love them.
Here's my XD and a 25 yard target using the RNFP's, I think with bit more load development and a steadier rest, the gun is capable of smaller groups.
How did you get those three holes on the left side perfectly spaced and aligned?
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Glocks don't cycle wad-cutters. Period.
If you somehow do get your Glock to cycle wad-cutters or SWC's like Hangingrock did, you're lucky.
If you somehow do get your Glock to cycle wad-cutters or SWC's like Hangingrock did, you're lucky.
Barsto swears they will. They work in the factory barrel, but lead the bore pretty badly.
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