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Glock 22 .40 vs Ruger SP101 .357

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Glockedout17, Feb 4, 2012.

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  1. Glockedout17

    Glockedout17 Member

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    Need some help guys. I recently got a used Glock 22 Gen 3 never fired in brand new condition. I've had it for about 2 weeks now and it just sits there. I want something that can handle conceal carry and home defense duty. So I posted my Glock 22 up for trade, I got alot of good offers, but the Ruger SP101 was the only one that really caught my eye. The owner said he has only fired it about 50-100 times and it comes with two holsters and two HKS speedloaders. I've heard lots of positive feedback on the reliability and durability on the Ruger SP101, only downside is the round capacity, but i'm pretty sure that most threats won't take more than 5 rds. I just want to know is this a good trade. Help!!!
     
  2. David E

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    You should do a side by side size/weight comparison before dumping the thinner Glock for 5 shots of hard to shoot magnum goodness.

    If the size and weight of the G-22 is a turn off, you're not gaining much with the SP-101, unless you just really like revolvers.
     
  3. ball3006

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    Trade it off for a Glock model 27. I have both and the 27 is the more accurate of the two.....Both Glocks are better than a SP101. Besides, you have 15 rounds in the 22, and 9 in the 27.....chris3
     
  4. Captains1911

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    Really? How are you so sure? Do you have a crystal ball?
     
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    As far as I'm concerned it is an equal trade. Both sell for about the same money new.

    It is your call.
     
  6. Inebriated

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    It's up to you... they're the same level of gun (quality, durability/reliability, accuracy, value, etc), so just decide which you want more... higher capacity and lower power auto, or lower capacity, higher power revolver. I personally do not like .40 S&W, so the SP101 is a no brainer. And full house .357 loads don't annoy me like .40 S&W... But like I said, it's up to you. You wouldn't lose on that trade either way.
     
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    Do the trade...................
     
  8. Dean1818

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    I just bought a SP101 in 357 and plan to add it to the carry rotation.

    My carry already has a M&P 45 C and a Kahr CM9 (for those days when I need something little)

    The 357 performs significantly better than the 40 in a bullet to bullet comparison

    Carry a speed loader, and you will be MORE than covered in 99.9% of potential bad guy situations.

    AND...... the Ruger is made in America
     
  9. furiousbeen

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    I'd go with the Ruger. That's a gun that'll be around long after humans have been washed from the face of the earth. Aliens will be fighting over the them !
     
  10. ball3006

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    I might add....you can stick a 30 round mag in the Glock and have fun. Also, I use my Glock 40 to shoot wild pigs. I have seen how that caliber works on them and have no hesitation of using that round for my carry ammo. As I said before, look at a Glock 27.....chris3
     
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    So are Glocks, sort of. I understand the US made Glocks are exported and the US purchased Glocks come from Austria. Does that make any sense?
     
  12. jmr40

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    Go to Ruger and Glocks website and compare the 2 guns ACTUAL sizes and weights. The G-22 is almost exactly the same size and weight as a 3" SP-101.

    I'm not as concerned about the 5 shots vs 15, (although it is a factor to consider), as with the ACTUAL velocity you get from short barreled revolvers. You don't say what barrel length the SP has, but a 357 mag with a 2" barrel won't quite give you 9mm velocities. A 3" barreled 357 will barely beat 9mm.
     
  13. soonerboomer

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    While true in a comparison of full sized guns, this is not true in a .357 snub nose such as the 2.25" snub nose SP101. In fact, the performance of hot .357 mag loads out of a short barrel revolver weakens to the equivalent of 9mm+P.

    Check out this video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqDysouNjL4

    As for the OP question - I see no real advantage in the SP101 over the G22. However, I do have a snub SP101 in .357 mag and its a blast (literally) to shoot.
     
  14. gunnutery

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    I own and carry both the G22 and SP101. The G22 is for duty use and the SP 3" is my off duty weapon. I love the .357 and revolvers and I've carried my SP for seven years.However, I'm eventually going to switch to a G27 from the SP101 due to the fact that there are lots of stories lately of multiple threats because bad guys seem to be using force in numbers. I too would like force in numbers in the name of capaicity and much quicker reloads. Also by switching to the G27 I could easily switch to 9mm for practice or 357 sig.

    Actually seven years ago I switched from a G26 to the SP because I wanted a more powerful cartridge. I have come back around to feeling the need for more rounds and feel that the 9mm would be more than efficiant in a time of need (I've always thought that but the .357 mag had more appeal to me).
     
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    If you have other semi autos then I would go for it if you don't already have a 357 Magnum. If that's your only one then I would suggest keeping it. If you've never shot a .40 it can be a handful but 15 rounds of that will beat 6 rounds of 357 any day, and that's coming from a big 357 fan. As far as concealed carry they both aren't ideal but I would go with the Glock, it has a lighter trigger and more capacity. You could also just sell it and buy whatever the hell you want with the money(unless your a felon...). Personally I don't like to do trades because I know that unless I'm really, really familiar with that gun I could easily get burned.

    EDIT: I wouldn't recommend the Glock 27. Like I said, the .40 can be a handful and mines a full size. In a pistol that small, though I've never shot it, it would probably be downright unpleasant. If your that inclined to get a tiny gun for concealed carry I would just get a snub nose .38 Special or a 1911. You'd be surprised how easy relatively big pistols are to hide.
     
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    I don't care for Glocks or the .40 S&W cartridge, and I do like revolvers. But I'd still take a G22 over an SP-101 for almost any purpose. If I'm only getting 5 shots, it needs to be either a bigger bullet or a smaller revolver. Even the short barrel loads don't do all that well in >2" guns, barely better than .38+P, which can be had in revolvers a bit smaller and half the weight of the SP-101. For that matter, if you're really sold on .357, the S&W M&P 340 or 340 PD are significantly less encumbering than an SP-101. They're also not fun to fire, though.

    My suggestion? Decide whether you really want an auto or revolver, then decide if it's mostly for carry or HD/range use. If it is for CCW, and you do decide on a revolver, I have two suggestions over the SP-101:

    In .38 or .357, S&W J-frame or the butt-ugly Ruger LCR; They're much better for carry.

    If SP-101 size doesn't bother you, why not go for something with just as much oomph, but a bigger bullet and less muzzle blast? That'd be the Charter Bulldog Pug .44 Special. THe cylinder is 1/10" wider than an SP-101, but they're also lighter than an SP-101 by about 3 ounces. My carry load is a 210 gr. SJHP that leaves the little Bulldog's barrel at 985 FPS. Pretty healthy.

    I have an SP-101 in .32 Mag. I NEVER carry it. I carry my Charter .44 regularly.

    Here's a size comparison (SP-101, CA .44, S&W 686):

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    And another (Ruger Super Redhawk, S&W 629, S&W 686, S&W 65, Ruger SP-101, S&W 37)

    [​IMG]

    As you can see, the SP-101 is MUCH larger than a J-frame
     
  17. The_Armed_Therapist

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    With all due respect... The Ruger SP101, even the shortest barrel is NOT that much smaller than a full-sized Glock... It's thinner and (in my experience) easier to conceal. It's a common assumption that is false.

    If you want to go with a revolver, you're going to want one of those TINY revolvers. If you stick with .357, it will SUCK to shoot and the stubby barrel will limit the effectiveness of the .357. If you go with a tiny .38spl, you'll be downgrading quite a bit from the .40sw.

    Stick with the Glock 22 for now.
     
  18. Glockedout17

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    All I have is full sized pistols. I wanted something that could handle both conceal carry and home defense. I've looked at the Glock 27 and like it. But i'm curious what else is out there that I can out right trade for? What are some good reliable handguns in the same trade value range of my Glock 22. I just need something smaller to carry. I also have $300 bucks that I can blow on a carry handgun and just keep my Glock 22. What are some good new or used carry guns in that price range?
     
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    Oh sorry guys, thanks for the advice. Both are good handguns, but I might hold on to my Glock until soemthing else good comes along.
     
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    I own one of each. I carry the 22 as a duty weapon, but never, ever carry it as a CCW piece. I carry the SP101 more often than not. If I could only own one of the two for CCW, it would be the Ruger.
     
  21. Deaf Smith

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    I've owed quite a few snubies and Gocks (still do for that matter.)

    The Glock 22 is a full sized gun used by many a PD for regular duty and is best for outside belt wear. It is an excellent home defense weapon or car gun, and yes, with right cloths it can be concealed. I have the Glock 17, 9mm version, and it works very well.

    The SP101 is a true concealment snub. I have one with the 2.25 inch barrel, DAO, and Secret Service stocks as well as the S&W 640-1, also DAO.

    Both are excellent IWB concealment guns that work in hot weather and t-shirts. Both are best with heavier bullets, say 158gr LSWHPs.

    Swap for the SP101? If you need a all year round CCW gun, one that you can practice a real lot and not wear the gun out, the SP101 will do that. It is very sturdy and quite accurate. But I do suggest, since the SP101,, like most Rugers, are oversprung, get a Wolf spring kit and use the highest poundage springs that are still below factory ones. Much helps the trigger pull, DA or SA.

    Both Glock 22 and SP101 cost about the same so again, if your needs run a year round CCW piece, get it.

    Deaf
     
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    Kel-Tec PF-9. They're a super-thin 13 ounce 7+1 9mm that can be had for about $270 brand new. Made in USA, lifetime warranty, darn good gun.
     
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    I carry the G22 all day everyday. IWB with a PJ Holster ( http://pjholster.com/ ) and a Galco re-inforced instructor's belt. Have you ever been to an IDPA match? Watch the guys with a revolver. Then say to yourself, "How fast could I really reload my revolver?". Not to mention if you miss the target 6 rounds goes really quick. I'm not that fast on reloads with the G22 but I can tell there is no way if I had a revolver I could reload fast enough under pressure. I am no expert and this is only my observation.
    Good luck and stay safe,
    Mike
     
  24. ugaarguy

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    Have you considered trading the Glock 22 and a little bit of cash for a new Glock 23 or Glock 19, or similar medium size pistol? Use the rest of that money for a quality holster, ammo, and range time for the new gun. When you have a little more spare cash get a good light to mount on the mid sized pistol's rail for HD duty.
    Let me preface this by stating that I don't even like Glocks. However, those few sentences just scream Glock 19 or 23. Despite my personal aversion to Glocks, I still respect them for the very capable tools they are. The G19 / G23 are simply two of the best multi-role pistols made. They give up little to their full size (17/22) counterparts in terms of service pistol capability (they even keep the standard light rail) which makes them great for HD. They're slightly larger than their subcompact counter parts (26/27), but only give up ankle carry & similar very deep concealment capability to the baby Glocks. Most folks can easily conceal & carry a Glock 19 or 23 with a good holster.
     
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    You could trade for a Kahr PM or CW series (9mm, .40, or .45). Those are considerably smaller than your Glock and/or the Ruger SP101. The PM is almost pocketable. The CWs are around $400-$450 in stores, but it's easy to get deals on those. My CW40 was $299 new. The PMs are more expensive... $550-$650 or so, but a trade for a Glock could probably be worked out. Actually, just about any Kahr would be what you're looking for.
     
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