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Glock 23 Gen4 - Defensive Ammo Round?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Ryan Williams, Feb 17, 2011.

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  1. Ryan Williams

    Ryan Williams Member

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    Hey All,

    Next week I am picking up my new Glock 23 Gen4 and I am looking for a good personal defense round. The gun will be a carry gun plus I plan to carry it in the woods.

    My question is an old one, but I am fairly new to the .40 S&W world. What do you all recommend to be the best self defense round. I'm am primarily talking bullet weight. there seems to be a wide range of options from 135gr to 180gr. What do you feel is the best and why??

    Thanks for all input.
     
  2. AWorthyOpponent

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    There's like 100 threads on what type of ammo you should use, and everyone's recommendation. I would go with the lighter rounds for carry, as they will provide faster follow up shots, and reduced recoil.

    I personally use Winchester Supreme Elite Bonded JHP (basically the same as LEO ammo, and it can be bought at Wal-Mart...)
     
  3. Z-Michigan

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    Any US-made JHP from 155 to 180 grains will work fine. I wouldn't get excited about brands and models within those broad parameters unless/until your skill with that gun is excellent, and even then I wouldn't get excited much. It's all about shot placement.
     
  4. jeepmor

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    I'd recommend you carry what your local LEOs carry. This is always a safe bet and usually a top tier cartridge that has been extensively tested already. Or, just find a good HP by Double Tap and call it good.
     
  5. NG VI

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    Anything 155-180, XTP (Hornady, available as a component), HST (Federal), Ranger-T, PDX (both Winchester), Gold Dot (Speer-CCI and available as a component, so lots of other companies offer loads with them), Golden Saber (Remington), or something like the Cor-Bon DPX (based on the all-copper Barnes X bullet, other companies use them too but I don't know any names), anything like that will be just great for a carry round. It's the best idea to put a couple hundred rounds of whatever you do end up caryring through your gun to make sure it likes it, but honestly nostalgia notwithstanding guns are better made from a functional standpoint today and there really aren't any service-type pistols that are outrageously finicky about ammunition. If your new Glock is going to choke on one round, it'll probably choke on a lot of rounds and need some attention.
     
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    Been carrying Speer 180 gr Gold Dots in my duty G22 for nearly a decade. I have full confidence in them.
     
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    Gold Dot or PDX1....
     
  8. Ryan Williams

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    What about 135gr vs 155gr vs 180 gr...

    I have been shooting 135 grain Winchester Ranger in my Glock 22 but I have been told by a couple guys any my local range that I should be carrying a heaver bullet for defensive purposes. I like to practice with what I will be carrying so should I be going up to a 155 or 180?
     
  9. Manco

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    I prefer 180 grain loads because they cut down on blast & flash and tend to penetrate better. Virtually any premium JHP will do in this caliber, some of the best current examples of which are: Federal HST, Winchester PDX1 (same as Ranger Bonded), Winchester Ranger-T, and Speer Gold Dot.
     
  10. gofastman

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    180gr Hornady XTP's, loaded hot by (1st choice) swampfoxammo or (2nd) doubletap ammo

    XTP's may not be the best choice for strictly urban setting but I think they are the best compromise for the potential encounter with 4 or 2 legged threats.
     
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    Personally I prefer bullets in the 155 to 165 gr. weight for the .40. At the moment I have Federal Hi-Shoks and am happy with them and their performance. Many seem to like Speer Gold Dots (I've used those in 9mm) and the Winchester SXT loads.
     
  12. Manco

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    My understanding is that black bears are fairly common in Wisconsin, and if you ever have to defend yourself from an aggressive one with a .40 S&W (a rare event, but even rarer things have happened to me before, so...), then I think that using heavy solid or hard-cast bullets would improve your chances. Here are a couple of examples:

    http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_26&products_id=210
    http://www.swampfoxgunworks.com/swampfox/home.php?cat=291
     
  13. CZ57

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    Remington 165 gr. Golden Saber. Good combination of velocity and bullet weight and proven to be one of the best stoppers in .40 S&W.;)
     
  14. Kyle1886

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    Federal HST 180 gr is what I use for a SD round. Probably any JHP from the major companies will be up to the task.

    Kyle
     
  15. Ryan Williams

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    I Appreciate all the good feedback, I'll have a pick up a few boxes of different ammo in the 155-180 range and give them a go.
     
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    HST, PDX, Gold Dot. All good choices. I happen to use PDX in a M&P40c
     
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