Glock 23 or H&K USPc

[jacklord]

My local gun dealer gave me a quote of $440 for the Glock 23 and a price of $700 for the H&K USPc. The H&K comes with nights sites and 3 magazines whereas as the Glock is NIB 2 mags factory sites.

What is the better deal dollar for dollar?

Is the quality/reliability of the H&K for $260 more than the Glock?

I hear nothing but good things about both guns.
Thanks for your help.

 

[10-Ring]

Have both, like both, but really prefer the USPc IMO, more versatile, more accurate, just more

 

[miko]

I have smallish hands, so I hated the Glock's feel and would have surely got a USPc if I did not find a P2000 - which is a further development of USPc and very similar to it in feel.

miko

 

[kirkcdl]

The USP can be carried cocked and locked or hammer down DA,and has second strike capability,if that matters to you.I have both and carry both depending on my mood.If you download the CDNN catalog you can do better on the USPc price...

 

[Reyn]

Id get the Glock. I like the Glocks better than HKs. At least the USPs. Never handled the 2000s. I still own a HK and its a great gun,no problems at all. I just dont like the feel as much as i do the Glocks.

 

[Ares45]

Anybody know if Glocks have a magazine disconnect? I know HK doesn't. The USP will fire without a magazine inserted. Another thing to consider if you're planning on carrying for personal defense.

Glocks unsupported chamber would steer me in another direction, especially in a high pressure round like the 40. Reloads or no.

 

[MountainBear]

Glock does not have a magazine disconnect and they are much easier to find accesories for. Holsters, magazines, etc. are easier to get and magazines are cheaper.

 

[mete]

For me the grip shape makes all the difference grips angled back like the Glock point far too high for me so I'd get the HK.

 

[Grunt]

I have both and while I like my Glock 23, I prefer the USP-40C a bit better.

 

[Whatsit]

USPC without a doubt!

 

[Don Lu]

I only have the GLOCK 23. It is my first gun and I love it... I shoot very accurate w/it and have never had a misfeed in over 2000k rounds. If you get accuracy and dependability from a gun, what else would you need..save a few dollars and get the GLOCK.

 

[javacodeman]

I can't give you an "I own both" opinion, but I can say that I own the very gun you are considering (H&K .40 USPc) and I love all parts of it. It is easy to feild strip and clean, accurate, never fails to feed, totally reliable. I personally like the grip, but that is for your hand to decide for you. I don't know what features the Glock has (maybe someone can comment), but the H&K has a side safety that also functions a decocker. This is key for me as I prefer to have one in the chamber, but in DA/SA mode. With the decocker, I can safely (and I always have muzzle control while doing this so no flaming) decock the gun after I chamber an administrative load.

Also, it has a safety that isn't deactivated when you put your finger on the trigger neener: for all the Glock fans out there).

java

edit: Okay, maybe yours isn't the 40 calibre--picked that up from somebody else's reply.

 

[doubleg]

I have shot a usp40 and a wide variety of glocks. So IMO usp hands down. Call me crazy but I just dont understand how someone can carry a pistol with out a saftey or hammer. Also, I have had several jams and misfires in glock pistols.

 

[usp_fan]

Started with a full sized USP, then Glock, and for many of the reasons already stated, I'm back to HK with a usp40c. Great gun, very accurate, accessories are easy to find--but do cost more. I actually believe the HK is a stronger and better made pistol as well.

--usp_fan

 

[GunNut]

I've had both and now only have Glock's.

The USPc is a great gun, just too expensive. Add to that super expensive magazines, and my money goes elsewhere.

Steve

 

[BamBam-31]

Well, I owned an HK USP .40 fullsize, plus various Glocks. The HK was one of the first guns I sold, more because of the snappy .40 recoil than anything with the gun itself. I found the HK to be very well-made, easy to clean, accurate and reliable (except for several stove pipes from bad reloads). Ergos were pretty good, but the grip was a bit too fat for my tastes. I do feel that HK's tend to be overpriced for what they are, but it's not like you're getting junk, either.

I'm a huge Glock fan, on the other hand. My Excaliber is my G17, and my first handgun ever was a G19 (which will never be sold). I cut my teeth on the Glock trigger, so I never knew it was a "bad" trigger. Well, I've got a competition trigger in my G17, plus Heinie/DP FO sights, and I can do some pretty amazing shooting with that setup, slow and fast. Like a previous poster said, it's reliable and accurate--what more do you want out of gun?

Then again, Glocks aren't for everybody. I'm just glad they fit me.

 

[md7]

welcome to THR jack. you won't go wrong with either brand. both are reliable and solid. my preference though, goes to the glock.

 

[bigsarg99]

Both are solid guns and have good reputations. It totally depends on what you plan to do with the weapon. Will it be for just home defense/ range gun or a ccw? I own a USP Tactical .45 that I bought in Germany when they first came out and I have had nothing but great service out of it. My wife has a Glock 32 that she has had almost as long as my HK and it has been a great gun as well. She carries it as her ccw but is in the process of selling it in favor of the S&W M&P .40. Nothing wrong with the glock but the resale value is not as great as my HK. I think that either choice you make will be one that you will be happy with. If possible i suggest that you try them out at a rental range or a friends house. Good luck!

 

[Still 2 Many Choices!?]

Glock 23

I am a frugal buyer and the H&K, as good as it is, is inflated for the name... To be fair, the Glock is also, but it will do all the USP will at a cheaper price. If the manual safety bothers you then get the USP. I am a little biased though, the only H&K products I would like to buy now I am too poor to afford, or simply not allowed to own (MP5, UMP, 416, etc, etc ). My Glock goes bang when I want it to, and I clean it when I feel like it, and still expect it to go bang if needed . The trigger is an aquired taste but works for a combat pistol.

Still 2 Many Choices!?

 

[never_retreat]

USP

I have a usp compact 9mm and hands down a better product than my glock.
It gives you all the options for carry. cocked and locked, sa or da.
Plus HK came out with the polymer frame 15 years before the glock. Everyone else is just a nock off. Honstly no problems ever except for underpowered reloads.

 

[Autolycus]

HK all the way.

 

[michiganfan]

I had both and liked the G23 better. For me the HK was a little thick.

 

[Mike_in_OC]

I had the same debate. Shot both guns and picked the Glock 23. I prefer the glock trigger pull and reset better than the HK. I dont think reliablity will be an issue with the HK or G23.

 

[CB900F]

Jack;

I don't know you, but here goes anyway. H&K catalog 702509, page 5, where I quote: (picture above) "(Above) During testing, a bullet was deliberately lodged in a USP barrel. Another cartridge was then fired into the obstructing bullet. The pistol was then fired for accuracy and the resulting group measured less than 2.5 inches at 25 meters (right)." Picture to right shows the group.

Not only was the pistol able to fire, but it was able to do so accurately according to the H&K source. Now, I wasn't there & obviously don't know all the test conditions, but nonetheless, that's impressive as hell to me.

900F

 

[1man]

I have both. My Glock is my home gun and my USPc is my carry!
If you have to pick one, I'd go with HK!