Glock 43 Problem

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by blue32, Apr 29, 2015.

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  1. TwinReverb

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    I've been slamming my Glock 43's magazines almost every night trying to get them to fail and they're not. This has got to be a batch of bad magazines, as it's not consistent across the board. So many review sites from people who (on video even) ran many hundreds of rounds out of their G43 when it first came in: surely we'd have heard one of them chime in by now.

    Oh well, nothing's perfect.
     
  2. Homerboy

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    Since when does Glock admit there is a problem with their product? I'm not buying some engineer admitted that. Everybody knows Glock is "Perfection".
     
  3. druryj

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    I just peeled the plastic back a bit like I did on my G36 mags; no problem anymore at all.
     
  4. TwinReverb

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    And how long did they take to fix it? My experience with Glock hasn't been too good. Google "NYPD Glock 19 Phase 3 Malfunctions". They let over 8000 cops walk around with potentially defective guns for over 18 months despite repeated requests to fix the issue. Only fixed it when the job contacted Ruger for guns to replace all Glocks in service.
     
  6. Zerodefect

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    NYPD isn't a credible source of anything. Unless you want to find the best hotdog stand in NYC.

    2002. Was an easy fix. Any decent armorer and training regimen should have caught it before it was a problem.
     
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  7. Homerboy

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    Really? Probably the biggest contract in the country with tens of thousands of guns issued, and they're not a credible source? How about the 19 that I had that was recalled?

    Or should we base our opinions on some internet commando's rating?

    Or is an anonymous post by some guy on the internet to be taken as gospel?

    And yeah, it was an easy fix. Only problem is that this was back in the late 90's, when there were not so many Glock armorers, and Glock couldn't give a rats ass that over 10,000 cops were walking the beat with a gun that had an issue. Since Glock took notice, the problem went away. Funny how the S&W 5946 and the SIG 226, also issued to the NYPD, never had an issue.

    Which is what they will do for the next problem. Screw the customers, many of whom will never even KNOW they have an issue, since many people buy a gun, shoot it a few times, then put away in case it is needed. And when enough people complain, Glock will slugglishly get to their feet, and fix it when they feel like getting around to it.

    And the Chairborne Rangers will continue to buy into the "Perfection" nonsense.
     
  8. TwinReverb

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    First, this is The High Road. If you hate Glock so much why are you chiming in on a Glock-related post? Isn't that sort of defeating the purpose of responding on a forum called The High Road? Please stick with non-inflammatory speech while here. There are many other places you (and I) can rant.

    Second, it's not "chairborn" rangers. Glock 19s have been approved for Spec Ops Marines. Glock isn't perfect, but no manufacturer is, and it's wrong to "assassinate" their character when Sig and S&W have also had their fair share of problems that I could bring up here, but I am going to refuse to do so because that's no the High Road. Glocks are good for what they're designed. The G43? No, I don't think that was meant for military combat.

    As for the problem you're describing with G43 mags, again, all the usual big mouths on the internet (Hickock45, Moss Pawn & Gun, Massad Ayoob, etc ad nauseum) tested it and put several hundreds (if not thousands) of rounds through it, as have also several people on the Glock Forum (.com). This is the only mention (that and TTAG's link back here) of G43 mags failing. So by far it's out of the ordinary. But Glock has also stated on the phone that if anyone has a problem with G43 mags, they can send their stuff in and/or visit Smyrna and get not only their gun serviced for free but get a free magazine out of it for their troubles (so it's like being paid $35).

    (I won't say it's not Glock's fault if they rushed the G43 out the door, but I will point out that the fan boys were foaming at the mouth. This doesn't excuse any wrong-doing, but it does make it ironic that people were chomping at the bits to get their hands on one, so they may have negatively influenced matters, sort of.)

    So I'm asking you: please stick to the High Road here. No company is perfect, no matter what their slogan. Am I saying those with G43 problems are lying? Absolutely not. Am I saying Glock is perfect? Absolutely not, and in fact no gun is perfect.

    I just think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
     
  9. Homerboy

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    I don't hate the product. Glocks are generally very reliable guns. They've had a few bumps over the years. The 42 had some issues right out of the gate, too.

    My issue is with the way that Glock handles problems. They suck at it. Ignore it until it can't be ignored anymore, then quietly fix it the way it should have been.

    That's just the way it is.

    And my chairborne ranger comment wasn't directed at Marines. But rather the internet fanboys who always chime in.
     
  10. TwinReverb

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    I agree, Homerboy, and I hope that Glock listens to their customers and stops being run by timeline and goes back to being run by "it gets released when it's ready."
     
  11. Homerboy

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    Glock is a business. People have been screaming for a single stack Glock for years. They figured the compact and subcompact double stacks would continue to pay the bills. Then the S&W Shield, the Ruger LC9, the Springfield XDs, the Walther PPS came along. Glock finally got into the single stack game. In my opinion, the 43 only appeals to Glock fans. There are many other choices, and more time tested available.

    I'm sure the 43 will have some bumps then smooth out.
     
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    All I can add is that my Glock 41 has run flawlessly.
     
  13. David4516

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    TwinReverb, I wouldn't say that the mags "fail". It's just that if you don't insert them just right they get stuck. It's annoying, but not a deal-breaker, at least not for me.

    I got to shoot my G43 for the first time yesterday. Overall I'm very happy with it. I shot maybe 100 rounds of my reloads (3 different recipes) with no problems. It seemed to be pretty accurate (minute of bad guy at 10-ish yards) too. I'm not a great shot with a pistol so I suspect that an expert could get it to shoot better than what I can do. My wife liked it too, she shot a couple mags worth. I think she's sticking with her G42 though, so I don't have to worry about her stealing my G43...

    I also noticed some things about the mags in regard to the "hang up" problem. The flush-fit mag didn't seem as bad as the mag with the pinky extension. Also I noticed that when the mags were loaded, they worked better (inserting empty mag caused alot more "hang ups" than inserting loaded mags).
     
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    Pardon me while I clean my keyboard.......;)
     
  15. TwinReverb

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    I called Glock yesterday. They sent me a brand new magazine catch for my G43. They were not aware of any problems, or so the person on the phone said.
     
  16. pitime

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    Hmm. Please let us know if the "catch" they sent you was different.
     
  17. TwinReverb

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    Well, got the magazine release/catch today. It was identical to the original except that it wasn't shaved (I had shaved the original). Still no magazine release problems. Glock's opinion: if they haven't confirmed it, it doesn't exist.

    Not surprised: I would've said the same.

    So still no problems. Glock doesn't consider releasing the magazine while the gun is vertical and inside my waistband. I have no problems, still.
     
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