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Glock 44......meh.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by DustyGmt, Sep 23, 2021.

  1. DustyGmt

    DustyGmt Member

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    I have been a very happy Glock owner for over a decade now. I have owned oh probably 8-10 different models and liked every one of them, with one exception. The G36 was not my bag. Didn't like it. Should have gone with my gut instinct and went for the G30 at the time. Oh well. But every other glock I have ever owned has been boringly reliable and shot more or less the way I needed it to, although somewhere around the 5K round mark on my 17 & 19 the brass on 124gr cartridges started to intermittently smash me straight in the face, changed the ammo and avoid the 124 FMJ's and all seems well now.

    At the beginning I had a strong tendency to shoot a lil high and way left. I had to change the way I held the gun and it took me a while to overcome. I still can't shoot my G17 with good, repeatable accuracy but my 19 and 43 are my go to glocks and I can print good groups, even with rapid fire I can put em where I want em.

    Then comes the G44, I had heard horrible reports on this gun, that it wasn't an accurate gun, very ammo picky, just generally finicky and to be avoided. I decided to roll the dice on it and so far it has been utterly reliable with every type of ammo, 36gr, 38gr, 40gr, etc... cheap, expensive, doesn't matter, this gun cycles everything but I just can't get it to print a decent group. Even when I start very close in. 15ft or so, it just shoots all over the place. Even when I'm shooting premium stuff. I went through 100rds of CCI MM's and it just wouldn't produce a nice group for love or money.

    Anybody else have this problem? I'm ready to scrap this G44 and write it off... I wanted to like it, I actually do but has anybody had any luck with a pair of good aftermarket sights, triji's or some other? I'd like to keep this gun I just don't enjoy a gun that prints like buckshot @ 50yards when I'm standing 15ft away....
     
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  2. 1KPerDay

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    I'm just surprised to hear it's been reliable for you. It's hard to find a review where they don't have reliability issues.
     
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  3. CoalCrackerAl

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    My 44 has been fine. I like it very much. My brothers was ammo picky until he broke his in.
     
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  4. DustyGmt

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    Are there a good set of sights out there that fixed the problem for some of you? It could be partially my own error but when I bury that post sight, I can get off a few shots that land somewhere in the neighborhood but even then my follow up shots can go high, low, low left, low right, high left, high right, etc... it makes no sense to me. I'll hold on the same place and get right, left, high, low, every which way but loose. It's weird. I've never had a gun like this. Typically I will group a lil high/left and can make a grip correction or something or at least be able to group a string of shots together, it's like this gun just has a mind of its own....
     
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  5. trackskippy

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    I have two of them and got them when they first came out. Between the two, I have a little over 15K rounds through them now, pretty evenly spaced between the two, and only three stoppages that I cant explain. The only ammo they didnt like, was some old Federal Target Match (something like that) and the only thing they ever worked in were my revolvers. My autos wouldnt cycle with them, and that includes the Glocks. Everything else Ive put in them has functioned and shot fine.

    I replaced the sights on each of them with a set of 9mm Meprolight three dot night sights. POA/POI seems to be pretty much right on and comparable to the highest setting on the factory adjustable. I have these on all my Glocks and it keeps things simple.

    Accuracy has been good with both of mine, and I usually end up shooting a box or two at the end, at pieces of broken clay birds on the berm at 10-15 yards. They start out pretty big, and then just seem to go away by the time Im done. :)

    I heard all the complaints and saw the couple of often and overly repeated videos early on, and wondered what was going on. Ive seen nothing like that with mine, and usually, when you talked to the people bitching the most, they didnt even have one and saw one of the videos, and/or heard someone else, who'd heard from someone else, that they were crap. Other than the usual complaints about Glock sights, and the occasional bitch about the 10 round mags, I cant remember hearing anyone who actually had, one say anything but good about them.
     
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  6. jmr40

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    I had one for a while. It didn't meet my accuracy expectations, I didn't keep it long. I've got a bunch of Glocks in 9mm, and 10mm. I've had others in the past in 45 and 40 S&W and all were more accurate than the one in 22.
     
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  7. DustyGmt

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    Yeah. I heard all the haters too, figured the same as you. They were just regurgitating the same thing they heard because a prominent youtuber didn't give his "seal of approval", then it must be crap. Well I have to find out for myself and so far the reliability claims seem a lil exaggerated, but in terms of accuracy, they may be on to something. I'm definitely not going to rule out the fact that I suck at shooting. But I've been shooting alot of rounds for a pretty long time and while I'm not a crack shot, I have been known to produce a nice group now and then. With this gun I just can't do it. I'm thinking something went wrong with the sights, idk. I'm wondering if this is as simple as a new pair of sights, I have always been able to make the OEM's work but I have a pair of 3dot triji's on my 19 and it's as accurate as you can ever expect out of a 4" bbl autoloader. I'm thinking I need to put a pair of 3dot trijis on here and maybe that will straighten things out.
     
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  8. trackskippy

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    I dont usually shoot a lot of target type shooting for target type "groups", and Im not comparing the Glocks, or a couple of other 22's I currently have now to older target type guns Ive had in the past. They arent the same thing. I look at them as a 22 version of a lot of what I usually shoot, and in the Glocks case, carry. I find they all seem to shoot about the same when I shoot them the way I shoot the centerfire guns, so I have no complaints. The rounds normally go into the vicinity of where I was looking on the target when the shot breaks, so Im happy. Most of my groups are fist or softball sized, in that vicinity, but more often than not, Im not usually standing still when Im shooting.

    Lately, no matter what Im shooting, I have been trying to shoot at least a few mags or cylinders slowly and deliberately on a bullseye target at 15 yards and focus on the basics. A lot of how I do depends on when I shoot that target. Some days I'll start out with it, and I'll do great, other days, I wait til the end, and Im still pretty wound up from shooting a little more reactively, and I dont do as well. Oh well, thats life. :)
     
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  9. 12Bravo20

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    I have had my G44 since the beginning of March 2020 and have well over 10,000+ rounds through it without any issues. And accuracy is just fine. I can get nice tight groups out to 15 yards. I haven't shot for groups at 25 yards but I don't have any problems hitting clay birds with one shot at 25 and 50 yards with it. I mostly shoot CCI Mini Mags and Aquila Super Extra, both being copper coated.

    Some have had issues with barrel leading but that has been mostly when shooting uncoated lead bullets. I would say that the barrel leading is not all that common from what I have seen on the many different forums.
     
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  10. DustyGmt

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    And you are shooting it in stock condition with stock sights? I found the same with clay busters and steel poppers, I could hit good at distance but when it comes to trying to put a nice tight 2" group together at 15'-20' I just can't do it. Maybe it's just me, idk..... for some reason I tend to shoot better when I'm not trying to be accurate and am just running a mag at a reactive target..... could be my shaky hands too
    ... idk
     
  11. CoalCrackerAl

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    I haven't bench rested mine yet. It works for range play. If i want to shoot for groups. I'll break out my target 22 pistols. I'll bench the 44 sometime and see how it groups.
     
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  12. 12Bravo20

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    Yes I am still using the stock sights. The only changes I have made was installing a Hyve Technologies Monarch adjustable trigger and a Glock Minus connector.
     
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    Mine has ''night sites''. The stock sights are in the box too. Have not decided to change back to stock or not.
     
  14. SDGlock23

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    I bought one, maybe a year ago and it functioned just fine. I bought the threaded barrel so I could use the suppressor which was cool but really dirtied up the insides. Overall I thought it was okay, trigger a bit heavier than your normal Glock but when I went to actually sight it in, the accuracy was pretty rough, and I can shoot Glocks well but that G44 just didn't group well at all. I ended up getting rid of it because it didn't really serve a purpose and wasn't particularly accurate, much prefer my Ruger MkIV.
     
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  15. Buzznrose

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    I currently own a G44 and a Ruger Mk3 22-45. There is no comparison between the two as far as accuracy goes. The Ruger will put all 10 rounds in a quarter at 10 yards and the Glock will put 10 rounds in a baseball at the same distance. I can get better accuracy using mini mags, but not worth it to me.

    But I use them for different purposes. The Ruger is for shooting bullseye games with friends who have similar target guns. The Glock is my training gun for drills and warmup/cool down at the range. I carry a G19…the G44 just works great for batting practice.

    My G44 had a few (maybe 5-6) FTF early on but now shoots pretty much any ammo I feed it. I’ll be adding another at some point.
     
  16. Riomouse911

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    I bought my Glock 44 to use as a trainer for my duty Glock pistols, so my focus has been combat type shooting/accuracy at ranges of 5-15 yds. I kept the sights stock, though I may go to tritium dots at some point later on.

    I’ve posted this before, the G-19 I hadn’t shot in several years (It’s my old Gen 3 duty gun that I bought from the office after we switched to Gen 4.) It went into the safe untouched for years until I bought the Glock 44. I took them both to the range after swapping the striker spring snd safety plunger spring in each gun with a Wolff reduced power set.

    No warm up; the first ten shots at ten yards with G-44 followed immediately with the first ten shots in years through the G-19 (1 shot per second, two handed, B-27 target)


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    My first shot with the G-44 was high, the rest fell into the 10- ring mass.

    Ten more from each, same thing:

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    I must admit I was happy with this, as it showed me I now had a great training gun in my hands.

    Since then I’ve shot probably 750 Aguila Super Extra 36 gr HP and another 750-1000 or so of the CCI Blazer, Sterling Cross, Norma TAC-22, Federal Champion, CCI Mini- Mag and the LRN Aguila rounds with similar accuracy. I can only recall one stoppage, which is actually better reliability than with my Rugers (Standard, Mk II and IV)… but I think those were more magazine related.

    Will it run on the bullseye stage with my Govt Target 6.5” Mk II or Volquartsen-innards Mk IV with the 5.5” or 10” uppers? No. Not even close. Maybe if they make a G-34 or G-17L sized version with a longer sighting plane and better sights a Glock rimfire could be considered a target gun, but as-is now I don’t think it is.

    Will the Rugers allow me to draw from the same holster I use daily with a very similar feel and nearly identical fire control systems that my duty guns have? No. Again, not even close.

    For me, the G-44 and my other .22 handguns are tools for two different purposes that work well for their roles. I doubt I’ll ever get the G-44 to punch targets like the Rugers or my S&W revolvers do, but for it’s design I personally can’t be happier with it.

    Try swapping out those springs, it made my G-44 trigger feel very good and hasn’t altered reliability (I went 5.0 lbs on the striker spring, the stock one is 5.5 lbs). If it doesn’t work like you want, the swap back to stock is easy and you’re only out about eight bucks for springs and postage (or you can use it on another Glock.)

    Stay safe.
     
  17. sigarms228

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    Listening to actual owners of Glock 44s, they seem to really like them. I believe Glock did a change to the extractor on the Glock 44 many months back and rarely do I read a complaint about relability with HV ammo. As always cleaning and lubing a new pistol can do wonders for reliability, especially rimfires. I bet some of the early reviewers did not even bother with that.

    Reports by "owners" indicate good accuracy with their Glock 44s and comparable with their Glock 19s as Riomouse911 showed above. However they will not give Ruger Mark or Browning Buckmark accuracy if that is what one is looking for.

    As far as OP, I would try to have someone else shoot your new Glock 44 to see what results they get too and check both sights to make sure they are not loose. If the rear adjustable sight is not up to snuff that could certainly explain poor accuracy. I had problems with accuracy with my new CZ SP01 Shadow and could not figure it out until one day while cleaning it I discovered I could move the rear sight with my fingers. :eek::eek:. Once I resolved that I could then shoot it great.

    Hope you get it figured out soon.
     
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    This is 15ft, basically right on top of it. There's a group to the left and a group to the right,the group on the right is 20rds and the group the the left is 10. That's about as good as I can get out of it and when I move out to 10-15 yards it gets much worse. To date, this is the best group I've been able to get out of it at 15'. My other plates look like scattershot..... IMG_20210924_125202.jpg with basically any other .22lr handgun I could double this distance and put 10 into a bottle cap... I'll have to check the sights when I get home and make sure they aren't shaken loose...
     
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    That’s the accuracy I generally get with mine at 7-10 yards from a rest.

    I get my best accuracy from CCI ammo but Rem Golden Bullets and Federal
    Bulk will do okay as well.
     
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  21. 12Bravo20

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    My experiences with accuracy out of the G44 is the same as @Riomouse911 when shooting out to 15 yards. This is just fine for the type of pistol the G44 is. No it won't keep up with my Ruger MkII, S&W 22A or Kel-Tec CP33 but those are geared more for precise target shooting and competition use.

    Glock did change the extractor around April or May of 2020. So any G44 with a serial number that started with AEHK or later will have the new style. Glock stated they made the change due to the old style breaking when people let the slide slam shut on a chamber flag. My G44 has the old style extractor and I have NOT had any issues with it.

    If one is worried about the G44 being reliable, they should not be. The biggest issue I have seen is how people load the magazines or the use of cheap bulk ammo. And how you load the magazine effects a lot of different 22lr pistols.
     
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    Probably some of them are better than others.

    I own multiple copies of several different firearms, and in each case no two (although they are the exact same model) are exactly alike.
     
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  23. trackskippy

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    Ive been mostly shooting CCI Blazers out of mine, which arent plated, and do notice pieces of lead pushed out while cleaning. They are mostly the occasional long little strip that looks like they were left in the grooves.

    It doesn't happen a lot, but enough that you notice.
     
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    The G44 is meant as a training aid to the central-firing duty Gastons.

    Expecting match target performance out of it is misguided. It’s meant to be used for combat style shooting.
     
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    And the G44 excels at this. It goes with me on every range trip even if I don't take any of my centerfire Glock's with me to shoot.
     
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