Glock G-19 or CZ 75B?

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One of each?

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Seriously though, it's hard to go wrong with either. I will say that when it comes to carrying one of them and the one I have by my bedside, it's the G19. Absolutely nothing wrong with the CZ, but it's the odd man out when it comes to manual of arms. My other guns do not have manually operated safeties (Kahr MK9, HK P7, S&W 638).

If Browning (or I guess FN) produced a factory .22 conversion kit for the Hi-Power, I would have that instead of the CZ. If I was going to carry a CZ, it would be the PCR. Since the Kadet kit was available, mine is a very fun range gun.

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Damn near every top trainer, the FBI, thousands of undercover police, thousands of Private Citizen CCW's, me, Etc.

it is also as fat as Oprah Winfrey. Fat does not hide as easily as skinny & small.
The Glock is only 1.18" at its widest point.

(which is still a blimp compared to a Kahr PM9)
Which is not a service class pistol. The Glock 19/23/25/32 is a military and police grade fighting pistol that is extremely easy to EDC. It is the beginning and the end of general purpose auto-loading handguns.
 
comparing the glock 19 to the CZ75 COMPACT is a ... tricky move :)

I the CZ 75 Compact is all steel, I would be interested in a comparison, with a alloy framed P01 or PCR. that would be much more of a apples to apples.

14 rnds vs 15 rounds

similar weight



dont stack the deck to favor your favorite gun imo.


But really the two guns could not be more different.

DA / SA vs striker, Glock vs anything else, poly vs aluminum, etc etc etc.


My choice, is the CZ. Love it.

The Glock will be MUCH easier to get holsters for tho.
 
Holsters are becoming far more available than before, even Don Hume is making a soldi inexpensive version for the compact series.
Yes, the CZ75 Compact is heavier than the Grock, because the Compact is all steel. I carried a full size all steel gun for years, never bothered me, but a few ounces drives some people nuts, Heck, I got a few POUNDS I'd like to get rid of! The PCR or P01 would be a better comparision, and once again, I have had 3 Glock 19s fail in my hand, as opposed to the only jams in a CZ were induced by my own bad first generation reloads.:eek:
It comes down to individual feel and preferance - I shoot Expert or Distinguished Expert in Dept qualification every year, but I can't stand the feel of the sidearm, fits me like a brick. I carry a P01 and PCR.

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Psst, don't tell them a 118,000 person national police force just ditched Glock for CZ P07s, they hate that.:what:
 
1-The grips size is a quite critic component which determines the ability of CCW. Thus, if you compare grip sizes of both guns, G 19 is the winner.

2- IMHO CZ 75B is a great shooter, thus in the accuracy CZ 75B is the winner

3- Light weight is another CCW component, and the winner is G 19

4- Gun's widht is also important, but not critical as the "grip size". In this fact, th CZ 75B is winner.

5- CZ 75B is a variable gun that you can carry either DA or SA with safety on. But G 19 is SA pistol.

6- For Israeli Draws, G 19 is a good choice. It is quite hard to manipulate the slide of CZ 75B in Israeli Draws.

Cheers,;)
 
comparing the glock 19 to the CZ75 COMPACT is a ... tricky move :)

I the CZ 75 Compact is all steel, I would be interested in a comparison, with a alloy framed P01 or PCR. that would be much more of a apples to apples.

14 rnds vs 15 rounds

similar weight



dont stack the deck to favor your favorite gun imo.

I agree!....Just like a Glocky. :eek:

In comparison the alloy frame PCR & P01 which just about everyone that commented, recommended for CC, are substantially lighter than the steel frame 75 compact that easyg conveniently decides to quote. lol

PCR.....27oz.
P01.....28oz.
 
Jonah71 sit down and Enjoy a cup of finely brewed Gaston Kool-Aid................... Your priorities will then become apparent and you will immediately want the G19 WHICH is quintessentially the be all do all gun.

You might even regard it as the definition of PERFECTION:)
 
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Quote: By who?
Damn near every top trainer, the FBI, thousands of undercover police, thousands of Private Citizen CCW's, me, Etc.
The FBI doesn't issue the G19, they issue G22's & 23's and allow the carry of SIG's and other firearms as well. Name any other agency and I'll name another that doesn't carry the Glock. Suitability for concealed carry rarely impresses the guy in charge of procurement. He wants cheap.
If they are "undercover" police how do you know what they carry?:scrutiny:
I would argue that many more "private citizen CCW's" carry something which IS NOT a Glock.


Just because a handgun is popular does not come close to making it the CCW gun

Quote: it is also as fat as Oprah Winfrey. Fat does not hide as easily as skinny & small.
The Glock is only 1.18" at its widest point.
"only 1.18"..." Wow! that's fatter than I thought!

Quote:(which is still a blimp compared to a Kahr PM9)
Which is not a service class pistol.
Which makes it far easier to conceal.

The Glock 19/23/25/32 is a military and police grade fighting pistol that is extremely easy to EDC. It is the beginning and the end of general purpose auto-loading handguns.
This made me laugh out loud:D:D:D. You need to mix the KoolAid with water before ingesting.

Don't get me wrong, I have a G19, I like it and I'll never get rid of it. It is not even close to being the CCW pistol. Even Glock recognises that.

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Hello friends and neighbors // If you like steel/alloy you could go my route.
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The CZ75B and the CZ2075RAMI the 10 or 12 round mags fit both pistols. I chose the .40cal. platform, the RAMI is snappy weak hand or dual wield but doable with practice. They are heavy but soak up more recoil because of it.
 
To each his own, but....

I have sold all my striker fired plastic pistols and will never own one again. Short trigger pull with a light trigger is a liability when you are under stress which is why a P-01 is a better fit for me.
The CZ P-01
1. Longer trigger pull in DA,
2. A hammer on the outside which allows one to cock, de cock and if you had a light strike on a primmer re cock and try again.
3. All metal pistol, made from aircraft grade materials and steel. Mounted with custom aluminum grips its a perfect CCW. Cleaning solvents/bug spray will not melt it down, nor will metal soften in a hot car during summer.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=365072&highlight=glock+kb
4. Use a quality holster and grip size is minuscule.
5. 14, 16, 17 and 19 round magazines available and Mec-gar's available for under $20 online.
6. For this user the CZ P-01 has everything a CCW pistol should have and nothing it does not need. In the 5 years I have carried it I have not seen the need to buy a replacement. Which I can not say for the 1911, 1991a1, Detonics combat master, Glock, SW99, Styer M9 which I used to own that the CZ P-01 has replaced. No regrets here.
7. Fully supported chamber reduces case bulges which is a issue as I reload and Glocks are rough on the brass. I have yet to see a KB with a CZ, but there are a lot of pictures of Glocks blown up. Do a search on Google. And a few are on the High Road.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=347363&highlight=glock+kb

YMMV
Good luck
 
7- CZ 75B trigger is far better......
I have to disagree.

The thing I really disliked about my old CZ 75B SA was the very long reset.
I had to let the trigger return forward much farther than the Glock trigger.
The short Glock reset makes it very fast for follow-up shots.
And you can buy connectors and springs to alter the Glock trigger without the need of a gunsmith.
 
For the CZ trigger the Omega is out in the full size, CZ75 Omega, and coming sometime soon is the all-new P02, a P01 with Omega trigger and P07 decocker/safety, switchable by user. No import date/info yet, working on it.
 
Holsters are becoming far more available than before, even Don Hume is making a soldi inexpensive version for the compact series.
Yes, the CZ75 Compact is heavier than the Grock, because the Compact is all steel. I carried a full size all steel gun for years, never bothered me, but a few ounces drives some people nuts, Heck, I got a few POUNDS I'd like to get rid of! The PCR or P01 would be a better comparision, and once again, I have had 3 Glock 19s fail in my hand, as opposed to the only jams in a CZ were induced by my own bad first generation reloads.:eek:
It comes down to individual feel and preferance - I shoot Expert or Distinguished Expert in Dept qualification every year, but I can't stand the feel of the sidearm, fits me like a brick. I carry a P01 and PCR.

PCRPO1.jpg


Psst, don't tell them a 118,000 person national police force just ditched Glock for CZ P07s, they hate that.:what:
I think we know where you might be partial. Which national police force?
 
I don't own either, never have, probably never will. My opinion is free so take it for what its worth.

I like the heft of the 75 better. I'm no small boy (6', 210#) and the extra weight of the 75 doesn't bother me, it might you. The big negative of the -75 for me is the small slide purchase area. No matter how many times I rack that slide, I just can't find the confidence to know that if the chips were down I'd be able to grab a hold of that slide and clear a malfunction.

I think I could rack the Glock's slide w/ my toes. Unfortunately, I hate the balance, the angle of the grip, and the feel of the grip in my hands.

If I had to chose. I'd get the CZ & turn around, sell it, and get a BHP (hey, you forced me to get it, don't hate me for it.)
 
I carry a PCR and it's no problem for me to have it on all day. I prefer the ergonomics, accuracy, and trigger of the CZ over the Glock. As far as the PCR's reliability, it's not an issue, so why would I buy a gun that is supposed to be more reliable?
 
The only way I'mm gonna know for sure is to fire them both. Still leaning in the direction of the CZ. I really like the all metal frame and the weight isn't a problem for me with an IWB or a shoulder rig. And I believe shot placement/accuracy is more important than rate of fire, so with all the positive comments I've seen here and elswhere concerning the accuracy of the CZ and the way it feels in my hand, I'll most likely go with CZ. After I check out the Glock.
 
The FBI doesn't issue the G19, they issue G22's & 23's and allow the carry of SIG's and other firearms as well.
Did you read my post? The 23 is the same pistol other than caliber. Also, the FBI has stopped allowing alternative weapons. Glock 22 or 23 only.

Name any other agency and I'll name another that doesn't carry the Glock.
Are you seriously suggesting that no other agency uses the Glock? 65% of US law enforcement use Glock. It is not possible to list all the users (and that's just in the US.)

Suitability for concealed carry rarely impresses the guy in charge of procurement. He wants cheap.
The Glock is no cheaper than its direct competitors.

If they are "undercover" police how do you know what they carry?
It's not hard to find out what agencies issue. Google it.

I would argue that many more "private citizen CCW's" carry something which IS NOT a Glock.
The Glock models 23/22/19/17 (in that order) are the best selling handguns in the country. Post a poll and you will see most even here carry a Glock. It's a Glock world, learn to live in it.

"only 1.18"..." Wow! that's fatter than I thought!
The Glock is the most consistently thin double stack service grade pistols made. List the comparable models that are thinner.

____________Glock 19________________XD9 Service
Weight:______20.99 oz_________________28.5 oz____
Height:________5"_____________________5.5"______
Length: _______6.85"___________________7.3"_____
Width: ________1.18"___________________1.25"___

Which makes it far easier to conceal.
But does not make it easier to fight with. That is the point of CCW, not to be comfortable (if one could even make the argument that Glock is hard or uncomfortable to carry.)

This made me laugh out loud
List a better general purpose auto-loading pistol.

It is not even close to being the CCW pistol. Even Glock recognises that.
Most disagree. Size is only one consideration of an EDC. The serious Gunman strives to all day EDC a service grade pistol, the Glock compact models (19/23/25/32) allow this to be done in almost every situation, with great concealment and reasonable comfort.
 
I'd go with the CZ 75B in .40s&w

Full metal construction, double action, handsome to boot...
 
I'll most likely go with CZ.
You are going to regret getting a full-size steel service pistol for a primary EDC. If you want a CZ (which is a fine choice indeed) Get a P-01/P-02/P-07/RAMI/Etc.
 
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