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Glock good or not what is it???

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by jfanzen, Aug 12, 2006.

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  1. jfanzen

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    hey everyone.. im a noob and i went shooting the other day i shot a 9mm berretta and a .45.. i loved the 45 it was awesome so now im looking to buy.. the glock is at a great price but ive heard.. well you get for what you pay for.. its cheap.. it sucks... i hate it.. not accurate... and then i hear.. its awesome.. very reliable. great price and never rusts.. so to all you gun masters.. what is it? is it a good gun or not? what are the pros and the cons of the glock say the 45 because thats what im looking to get.. but also i saw a smith and wesson 45 for 900 in there.. it looked gorgeous.. but i think i might start out glock unless you guys can tell me if its good or not? thanks
     
  2. symr00

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    Glocks are fantastic firearms. They are usually 100% reliable out of the box depending on carry ammo I suppose. They are pretty much ambidexterous and extremely simple and durable. If you plan on carrying it concealed, I would recommend the G30 which is the smaller, double-stack version of the G21. he G30 is about the same size as the G19 and the G21 is well, a big gun to hide. IMO, you can't beat a Glock for a reliable, inexpensive, semi-auto self-defense handgun.
     
  3. Mooseman

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    My personal opinion are that Glocks are very decent guns. Folks tend to love or hate them. My advice is to rent a Glock and some other make guns in the caliber you like and determine what feels right for you. BTW if you like the 45 Glock you should definitely try the XD45 as well.:)
     
  4. jfanzen

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    I think i am going to go with the s&w .45 or rent something very similar to it.. the xd 45.. hmm never ever heard of it.. and as for the glock.. ive searched on here and well 80% love the guin and claim to have had it for years soo i think ill get a 9mm glock.. and as for .45 i think i might look into it some more thanks guys for the replies I JUST SAW THE XD .45 IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD GUN BUT ITS NOT DUAL ACTION RIGHT? WHERE YOU PULL THE TRIGGER HARD THE FIRST TIME AND THEN THE REST ARE EASY?? AND THE PRICE IS 500-676.. NOT VERY ECXPENSIVE... IS THE S&W BETTER ?
     
  5. Harley Quinn

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    jfanzen XD makes a 9mm. Glocks are Great.

    Check out the xd, it is very similar to the Glock but it has a Grip safety.

    Mdl 17 9mm, Glock is a winner, for a shooter you cannot go wrong.

    Rent one of each and you will not be sorry. Shoot a box through each.
    Triggers are similar but different. I believe either gun, is a great gun to own, your preference of course.:)

    HQ
     
  6. 10-Ring

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    Glock did it best w/ their 9mm line but they do have fans in all calibers. I've owned several but only have a 9mm now...the 19 :D
     
  7. redneckrepairs

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    Ok i need to put my flame suit on for this post .. but here goes anyway Both glock and XD are fine pistols , they are almost sisters the differance you will note is how they feel in your hand , one will point more naturaly for you than the other one .. that is the one you buy . there is no real right or wrong , its just what works best for you both are quality arms .
     
  8. The Lone Haranguer

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    Rent one, if possible, and see how well you like it. I have had a Glock 19 since 1999 that has given me excellent service and is my primary "go-to" carry/self-defense handgun. Reliable (the most important trait in any handgun), not too high priced, easy to shoot and hit with, light weight, compact in size (compared to similar capacity guns) yet still holding 15 rounds of 9mm, adds up to a good gun. I have also owned a 30 (compact 10-round .45), have shot a 36 (a six-round, slimmer .45 which performed impressively) and currently own a 27 (a subcompact .40) as a companion to the 19 for when I want a little smaller gun. Why not a 26 for commonality of cartridge and lighter recoil in a small gun? Actually I would have preferred it ... but I couldn't pass it up for $299..:neener:

    So don't let anyone tell you that Glocks are junk. Some of their traits aren't for everyone, but one of the wonderful things about this country (in non-oppressed states, anyway;) ) is that we have choices.
     
  9. Glock_10mm

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    I love both glocks and beretta's and would trust my life with either (as I have carried both). I like the glock best as my G29 is smaller and more powerful than the beretta, but they are both good choices (the G19 too)! The beretta 92f (if thats what you're talking about) is pretty hard to conceal though in my opinion compared with the smaller glocks. It takes as much work to conceal the larger glocks though.

    PS - A good friend had an xd 40 and it was built well but very unreliable with hollowpoints jamming (many types). It was so often, he usually carried FMJ's so he would feel comfortable. I was with him when he bought it, and it was new. I haven't heard anything more from anyone else, and the reports I have read have been good so maybe his was just bum or just in the .40, but thought I 'd let you know. Not much jamming on the glock or beretta.
     
  10. CSA 357

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    when the glock first came out i said thats the uglyest thing i ever saw! then years latter i shot one , got one a glock 21 fell in love now i have 30 and a 19 the glock is a great gun! i bet the people that hate them never tryed one, thats all it took for me, good luck, *csa*:)
     
  11. ugaarguy

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    jfanzen,

    You need to go to the gunstore and handle several different pistol makes and models to see what fits your hand. I owned a Glock for several years until I realized that other pistols fit MY hand better and I shot them better; there was nothing wrong the Glock, it just didn't fit ME. You need to see what pistols fit YOUR hand well; can you reach the trigger easily, do you like the safety, slide release, and magazine release locations? After you narrow it down to a top 4 or 5 then go to the range and see which pistols you shoot best out of your top choices. Also, what is your price range? In addition to Glock I'll recommend Springfield Armory - both their XDs and 1911s - pistols, SiG, H&K, Ruger, Taurus, Beretta, CZ, FN, Browning, Kimber, Colt, and S&W. Keep us updated on your search.
     
  12. KINGMAX

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    A GLOCK is not made for looks

    A GLOCK is really nothing to look at. It's basic black, half plastic, half metal. No chrome, nothing to polish up. It is made to perform and that is does. The trigger is a bit strong, but I shouldn't be able to pull off a shot accidentally. As for as accurate, any gun you earnestly practice with, :scrutiny: should yield improvement. GLOCK 21 .45 acp = Don't leave home without it!!! :)
     
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    I own a Glock or two. Lets start with the cons, most people find them to be ugly ( not myself I see grace in their simplicity, the XD is the ugliest gun on the market to me) however looks alone should not dictate your purchase. Some people hate the grip angle on a Glock I have big hands so I dont mind. The stock sights suck, thats all I can think of at the moment.

    Now for the pros. They are affordable. i bought my model 21 for $490.00, brandnew, with two 12 rnd mags, case, and cleaning kit. they are reliable. I have shot well over 2000 rounds through mine with only one failure ( caused by a improperly seated bullet ). They are easy to maintain, no tools needed to field strip, and hell i have only cleaned it 4 or 5 times since I bought her. High capacity in a .45, 12+1 rounds as opposed to the 1911's 7+1. Front rail for mounting any gadgets you want. Accuracy is no problem either, they arent going to match a $2000 1911 but you wont have any trouble hitting the broad side of a barn from the inside. I can shoot my box stock 21 (except the sights) at 25 yards and hit the 10ring all day. All in all I think the glock is the best gun for the money. I love mine and my next purchase may be another Glock in 9mm.
     
  15. jfanzen

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    man you guys are awesome.. im a stunt rider with a crotch rocket and i am on a forum but when i started out they were never as helpful as you guys thanks so much! im thinking of getting the glock as a 9 mm to practice.. yea its hideous no polish and all but itll do.. my price range for a .45 is 1000 bucks i dont want to go too much higher... i shot my buddies .45.. i forgot what kind it was i know it wasnt S&W nor glock.. ill have to ask him .. i shot his berretta 9mm though an di didnt like it too much.. when i go to the range im going to rent a glock 9mm and ill ask the guy what is the closest gun he has there i can rent that comes close to the S&W .45.. he had two there one was going for 950 and the other 980.. there were also sigs there??? i beleive they looked nice but dont know how they shoot.. I also heard the H&k or the HK is awesome.. thats the guy that told me glocks are horrible too.. soo
     
  16. Eightball

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    They're cheap, and they work. Sorta like an AK47. They aren't refined in any way, but they will go "bang" every time. To me, they have some seriously messed up ergonomics, the safety and trigger both stink, and it feels like a plastic hunk of crap; if I'm going to buy a pistol, I'm going to buy something nice, metallic, with some class, and a good trigger--as well as these things called "safeties". I'm not totally against polymer-framed pistols, mind you--but I like a bit more style outta my firearms than "plastic and metal--insert bullets". That being said, I don't know of a glock that won't go "bang"--but it is like the AK of the pistol world--cheap, reliable, and "everyone's got one". YMMV.
     
  17. RyanM

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    Amen!

    Anyway, the con that almost everyone mentions is the trigger. Well, the design of the trigger is definitely a pro, because you can easily change it to feel however you want. You can equalize the takeup and break weights somewhat, making a trigger like a stacky double action (done it), you can shorten and pull until it feels like a regular single action, while keeping all safeties functional (done it), or anything in between. There are even drop-in kits that give you a 2 pound trigger pull, and there are some gunsmiths that can reduce that down to 1 pound. And the parts are cheap enough that if you mess something up, you're only out about $10 or $15.
     
  18. denfoote

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    1000 words.

    Now mind you this is a 11 year old second generation G23 that led a hard life in the holster of a DEA agent BEFORE it came into my hands. :scrutiny:

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    I guess it still works!!! :evil:


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    A decade old Glock still works as well as it did when it first came out of the box. All that was ever replaced were the springs at their scheduled intervals.
     
  19. longeyes

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    ALL things considered, show me better. It's a pretty amazing package. I like the 19, 26, and 30 best.
     
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    I can show you better looking, better ergonomics, better mechanism.....but even though I'm not a Glock fan, I gotta admit that they're reliable.

    But when I want reliability, I stick to my wheelguns:p . Old habits die hard.
     
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    Glocks are more than just "reliable." I'm talking total package. That means weight, durability, capacity, finish, accuracy, ease of maintenance, value for price, et al. You can quibble about esthetics and ergonomics but in all the "hard" categories Glock is at or near the top.

    (By the way I like 1911s and Maks too! :))
     
  22. Eightball

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    I've seen better finish guns at a gun show, and from what I've heard, there's more accurate things out there. But you're correct--I can quibble about ergonomics--at least enough to rule out a Glock from my collection. I'm just picky. But yes, they're good value.

    But, ah, variety is the spice of life. If you like Glocks, buy them--save the rest of the guns for me :p
     
  23. possum

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    I don't know about everyone elses glocks but mine is sweeeeeeet! I have a glock 19 which is the mid size 9mm, i have put 500rds through it in the last two range sessions last sat, and today. I like it alot and would reccomend one to anybody that wants a great handgun that will keep on kicking way after the shooter does. They are fine firearms that deserve every bit of praise they recieve. I like the xd better but hey i have to give credit where it is do. 9mm is cheap to shoot,and a hoot to shoot it is awesome!
     
  24. SilverState

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    I usually carry a 1911. However, I started with Glocks and cannot seem to get rid of my 17 and 20. You simply cannot beat the reliability and price.

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    I did get rid of my 21, because I have too many .45s
     
  25. vynx

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    I think you are on the right track with buying a glock in 9mm for a first gun.

    The 9mm ammo is a little less expensiev and you can practice a lot and when you move up to a .45 you have a nice reliable high capacity second gun for a future wife, girlfriend, whatever.

    You mention the S&W .45, please note there are a few different types of S&W in .45. There are Traditional Double Actions (TDA) which is what you reffered to as dual action, and there are single action S&Ws in a 1911 style. They probably have a double action only style too.

    I myself don't have a problem moving from single action to double action to the glock style or trigger but some people prefer to stay with one type of action so that it is the same on their different guns...something to think about.

    In the meantime, you can learn alot about shooting with your Glock and learn alot about all the different .45s before you buy one.

    p.s. sig makes a great gun...can't go wrong with their .45
     
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