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Glock is missing something..

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by extremefishin00, Mar 14, 2006.

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  1. extremefishin00

    extremefishin00 Member

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    Like a long slide .45. Why is it they have long slide pistols in 9mm and .40/.357, but none in .45. I'm not much of a Glock fan, but it seems to me they would market well to the competition and SWAT crowd.

    Chris
     
  2. WarMachine

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    From what I see, the 34/35 models seem to be marketed the competition crowd where "major" 9 and .40 are more prevalent than .45 due to the extra capacity and lower recoil.
     
  3. HighVelocity

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    And if they ever make a longslide 45 they might as well make it in 10mm too. :evil:
     
  4. Lobotomy Boy

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    A long-slide version in .45 ACP and in 10mm both seem like logical additions to the lineup. Barring the introduction of some new caliber, Glock will have to come up with something different pretty soon.
     
  5. Later88

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    Glock has huge sales I think they can leave their line up the as is for a while
     
  6. Rockstar

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    Lonewolf Distributors is currently offering a G20 longslide and has a G21 longslide in the works. Hope you REALLY want a longslide, @ nearly $600 just for the slide, without barrel. :)
     
  7. Old Fuff

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    I think that before you see a long-slide .45 ACP, one will be introduced in .45GAP. The demand for such a gun would be relatively limited, and by using the model 22 platform all that would have to be tooled would be a new slide and barrel. Gaston remember, thinks like a gun-maker. ;)
     
  8. Rockstar

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    I believe that Gaston, in reality, thinks like an expert in injection molding and a businessman who's smart enough to hire folks who think like gun-makers. :)
     
  9. el44vaquero

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    I can answer this question in one word.....soul :neener:
     
  10. Old Fuff

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    Don't know about you, but I know the gentleman...

    He knows far more then you think... ;)
     
  11. gudel

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    So that's how their $1500 1911 gun so temperamental, it's got a schizophrenic soul.

    Looking how well he's doing, I don't think he's that dumb either :)
     
  12. Rockstar

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    Old Fuff, my response was meant as a compliment. I'm sure, after running a business that's made so many pistols, he DOES think like a gun-maker. He initially, though, was a businessman making a living in injection molded products, who was smart enough to hire a bunch of excellent designers to produce what we know as the Glock pistol. :)
     
  13. Lennyjoe

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    I met his son Robert.;)

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  14. 1911 guy

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    Soul, ergonomics, variety, pointability, I'd say Glock is missing more than a few things.

    They work, they're reliable, but after that, they offer nothing. Slide stop is made of sheet metal, barrel has rifling that won't allow too much lead reload stuff so there goes a large market of the competition crowd, the process of fitting a steel rail into a plastic frame creates an unnecessary joint under stress, they feel like holding a coke bottle.

    In short, an upscale Hi-Point.
     
  15. torpid

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    Yay, it's always nice to see folks compliment those maligned Hi-Points!
    (Or were you really only just trying to slam Glocks?)

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  16. 1911 guy

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    Hi-Points and Glocks.

    I'm really not slamming either, they work and some folks like them, but for the ergonomics and reliability, they're nearly identical. If you like pistols shaped like kids building blocks, why waste 300 bucks more? Buy the cheaper version. Kinda like my Marlin .22 rifle. I could have got one twice the price, but it does what I want (squirrels to eat) and I like the feel of it. So why spend 500 on a .22 when a 200 Marlin works?

    Answer: Some folks are stuck on "But it's a Glock."
     
  17. saspic

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    Actually, it's the other way around. Some people have had their .45 ACP longslides for a while now, with .45/10 conversion barrels for shooting 10mm through the .45 slide.
    The dedicated 10mm slide with .40 caliber breech face has reportedly been shelved until they can work out some design issues. The day the G20 longslide is available, I will purchase one.
     
  18. CarbineKid

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    I'de buy a glock if the slide was Stainless Steel. I perfer stainless to any other gun finish.
     
  19. Lone_Gunman

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    I've never seen a rusty glock. I see no advantage of stainless. Why do you want one in stainless?
     
  20. glocker1911

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    I appreciate a good joke as much as anyone. But if someone is serious about comparing a Glock to a Highpoint, all I can say is you either realllly hate Glocks,or you are, shall we say, a rider on the small bus.:D
     
  21. Sylvan-Forge

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    GRIP/STOCK

    IMHO, those 2by4 shaped grips gotta go.
    H&K brought out the P2000, and maybe soon an even more ergo P3000, Smith has the M&P, CZs started with and still have a nice grip, SIGs have nice grips, etc ..

    Maybe Glock will (hopefully) do something for their grips for the next gen lineup?
     
  22. 1911 guy

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    Sign me up for the short bus?

    Glocker1911, give me one meaningful feature differentiating the two. Still thinking? Price and prestige aren't meaningful, so don't bother mentioning them.
     
  23. Lobotomy Boy

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    Glock will have to start offering something different, not because there is anything wrong with what they make, but because gun makers that don't evolve eventually die. See Colt, for example. Maybe Glock should consider offering single-stack versions of their sub-compacts, and perhaps even versions of their guns with different grip shapes and sizes (or adjustable, like Walther and Smith). I personally like the Gen 3 grips and would hate to see them go away, so perhaps a Gen 4 version could be offered alongside the current versions.
     
  24. glocker1911

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    Reliability, accuracy, ergonomics for starters. If you can handle a Highpoint and then a Glock, and honestly say there is no differance, then there is no point in trying to tell you there is. But it's knid of like comparing a Llama to a Springfield "loaded" 1911. Yes, they are the same thing, but there is a world of differance in how they are made.

    BTW, when you step off of that short bus, don't forget to look both ways before crossing the road!
     
  25. Soap

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    Can anybody talk about Glocks without bringing up 1911s or vice versa? :confused:

    Anyway, I'd like to see a 10mm longslide!
     
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