Glock Performance Trigger

[ECVMatt]

I recently picked up one of the generation 2 GPT's to give a try. I am heading up to the desert for some shooting and will give it a try tomorrow. Does anyone have experience with these? I have read good things, but I am the first in the shooting group to give one a try.

 

[Show Me]

Interested in what you have to say.
You know like trigger is lighter but pull is longer. That kind of stuff. A Glock trigger has work to do before the pin is released . Lighter and shorter pull may not be possible at the same time. I haven't tried aftermarket yet and you have the real deal.

 

[slickracer]

I’ve read the big difference is the striker is fully cocked with the performance trigger vs partially cocked with a stock trigger.

 

[Show Me]

I’ve read the big difference is the striker is fully cocked with the performance trigger vs partially cocked with a stock trigger.

That's interesting. I must find that.

 

[JTQ]

Ben Stoeger has done some video's on the Glock performance trigger. He initially liked it, but eventually determined it needed more maintenance than he was willing to put into it, lube and cleaning, so he pulled them out of his guns. I believe one reason he likes Glock's now, is that he does nearly no maintenance to them, so a trigger that requires lube at around 1,000 rounds was more work than he was willing to do. He uses the Apex trigger in his Glock's now.

 

[Pat Riot]

So, no one yet…

When the trigger first came out I couldn’t get my hands one one to try. After a while I gave up.
Please let us know how you like it @ECVMatt

Thank you

 

[ECVMatt]

Here you go @Pat Riot

Well...I wish I could give you a live fire update but I accidentally left the trigger at my house this weekend. I would like to blame it on my buddy who packed the truck, but I should have checked. We were shooting about 45 minutes away, so I did not feel like going back and getting it. I did install it when I got back, so I do have some observations to share.

First of all, there are two versions of this trigger. The 70272 was the first version and I believe the version that gave Ben Stoeger some issues. Glock updated the trigger and released the 74332. This is the version I have. It states that it is a five pound trigger, but really feels much less. The trigger comes with a Gen 5 backplate so the trigger can be used on Gen 4 pistols. It dropped right in as expected and appears to function without issue.

After playing around with the trigger for a while, here are some thoughts. First off, the "second wall" or the distance from the first wall to striker release is dramatically reduced. This makes sense as the trigger bar is not providing final tensioning and moving down to release the striker, it is only tripping a release on a fully tensioned striker. While I need to actually shoot the gun to see the difference on paper, dry firing seems to indicate a reduction in movement during this final phase. It also seems easier to precisely fire the gun when on target. It retains the strong click when resetting the trigger. This is important to me as I have been shooting Glocks most of my life and that sound and feel are ingrained in me.

Some things that are different are the initial trigger pull to get the wall seems lighter and more smooth. Again, this is a function of the fully tensioned striker. As a life-long Glock shooter, it is odd to see the trigger return to the full extended position once fired. I like to store my Glocks empty and fired. This is easy to see with the traditional trigger as it is back against the frame. This adds a layer of visual safety when retrieving guns from the safe. This is not the case with the GPT as the trigger will alway be forward regardless of the striker status. Nothing replaces basic firearms safety, so this is not a deal killer, but something to be aware of. I am also hesitant to CCW a gun with a fully tensioned striker. I carry AIWB so the reality is that the gun does point at my body. I will have to put a lot of time on the trigger before I feel safe doing this. I realize that all of the Glock internal safeties remain active, so it is probably a psychological thing I need to get over. The trigger does seem great, but not great enough to compromise safety.

Anyways, I have a three day weekend again next weekend (we take off Super Bowl Monday at my work) so I will run back up to the desert next weekend and give it a try for real. I will post an update when I get back.

 

[Pat Riot]

Thank you @ECVMatt I appreciate it.

Having the trigger forward after being released is definitely a concern for me. That is a deal breaker for me, regardless of the benefits of the trigger.
Like you said, having the trigger back against the frame lets one know the pistol is safe.

 

[Show Me]

Thank you @ECVMatt I appreciate it.

Having the trigger forward after being released is definitely a concern for me. That is a deal breaker for me, regardless of the benefits of the trigger.
Like you said, having the trigger back against the frame lets one know the pistol is safe.

Ya , I've been following and realize my G 40 is just fine like it is. And I've spent my life with the need to modify and hot rod many types of motorized and no motorized stuff.
Plus not just safe but no round in chamber , right.

 

[Riomouse911]

Thanks @ECVMatt, hopefully you can get out there soon to give the trigger a live fire run through.

All I have done to my Gen 3-4 guns is add Vickers flat triggers to replace the stock trigger, Wolff reduced power plunger springs and 5.0 lb striker springs. (Stock is 5.5 lb.) These mods, plus a lot of dry fire, have reduced the feeling of creepy-sponginess in the stock trigger pull. Plus, the weight of the pull is reduced a bit without compromising reliability. (The Gen 5 guns just have the spring treatment, the triggers themselves feel fine.)

I also would get the heebies with a fully charged striker in a ccw gun. I could just see myself tripping and falling down, or dropping the thing onto an asphalt parking lot, and the internal safeties not preventing the sear from releasing.

Stay safe.

 

[ECVMatt]

My local hunting club is having a varmint hunt next weekend up at our property near Gorman. I will bring it up there and do a side by side shoot vs. the stock Gen 5 trigger.

I have dry fired it quite a bit in the last week and it is a definite improvement over the stock trigger. Again, I just don't know if the actual improvement will be worth the change in function.

I also talked with one of the guys on the local police SWAT team in the city where I work. They have gone from 1911's to Glocks. The SWAT guys are using the GPT and he reported no issues. They seem good with the way it functions in combination with the Glock Safe Action System.

 

[Riomouse911]

My local hunting club is having a varmint hunt next weekend up at our property near Gorman. I will bring it up there and do a side by side shoot vs. the stock Gen 5 trigger.

I have dry fired it quite a bit in the last week and it is a definite improvement over the stock trigger. Again, I just don't know if the actual improvement will be worth the change in function.

I also talked with one of the guys on the local police SWAT team in the city where I work. They have gone from 1911's to Glocks. The SWAT guys are using the GPT and he reported no issues. They seem good with the way it functions in combination with the Glock Safe Action System.

I think the single stack 1911 will be fading from many police-swat holsters as the 2011 slowly takes its place. On SRT we trained 12x a year (monthly) and qualified 4x (3 general, 1 SRT) so training on the switchover from 1911 to Glock w/GPT for the higher level SWAT teams should be a piece of cake.

Glock is an easy default for administrators to use. The designs are proven, particularly inexpensive, offer multiple sizes for different department roles and have fantastic support.

Stay safe.

 

[Jim Watson]

But it's not Modular, it doesn't have a FCG, whine whine.