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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by wickedsprint, May 18, 2018.

  1. wickedsprint

    wickedsprint Member

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    So I had the slide off my brand new G17 Gen 5 when I fumbled it over our tile floor...appears to have landed on the back corner slide rail which bent the rail and now two visible cracks are present. This is the second time I've seen this happen to a glock slide that was dropped.

    Glock wants $200 to replace the slide but it will have a different serial number (not sure if this is an issue as this is one of my personally owned off duty guns, gotta check with armorer on Monday)

    I guess my options as I see them are to bite the bullet and replace the slide, or keep the mags and write the rest of it off.

    3rd option...wait for aftermarket slides or 22 upper for the Gen 5s and turn it into a range toy?

    Any input?
     
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  2. WestKentucky

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    Option 3 for sure.
     
  3. someguy2800

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    The aftermarket glock slides seem to start around $200 anyway so the logical choice to me would be to just get a new oem slide. I would not be concerned at all about the serial number matching. The one on the frame is the only one that matters.
     
  4. ColtPythonElite

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    I would get a new slide and chalk it up as a 200 buck lesson.
     
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  5. Coal Dragger

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    Wait for aftermarket Gen 5 slides to appear. I wasn’t aware that slides were serial numbered on Glock pistols.

    Evidently some Gen 4 slides will work on a Gen 5 frame as long as the slide has a notch for the ambi slide lock.
     
  6. someguy2800

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    I don't understand why you would want to wait for an aftermarket slide to be available, which will likely cost more money, plus you'll need to transfer your sights and extractor and striker and everything over yourself, when you could just get the mother ship to make it as new again.
     
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  7. stchman

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    Are Glocks that delicate?

    Pics please.
     
  8. Wisco

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    I would’ve put my money on the tile cracking before a slide 100 times out of 100. At least your tile is strong!

    I can’t stand mismatches, on anything really, so I’d probably part out the gun rather than spend another $200 to have a gun that’s worth <$500. There’s gotta be someone out there who wants the frame and barrel. Save the slide and frame internals for replacements for your next Gen5 - they don’t add much value to the frame for what they cost to replace.

    Or start a custom build, but Gen5 doesn’t have the market support that Gen 1-4 have.
     
  9. rskent

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    If it were mine, I think I would have to tig it up. If for no other reason than to prove to myself that I could do it.
     
  10. VoodooMountain

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    My thoughts as well

    Half the tile at big box stores doesn't even seem to make it in 1 piece to the end user and your slide cracked after a short fall?

    Both my blender a d hot cups of coffee have cracked countertop tile. A dropped mug cracked my floor tile.

    Color me surprised.
     
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  11. edwardware

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    And there's the answer!
     
  12. stchman

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    I was maybe thinking about a Gen5 Glock, but apparently they are too fragile.
     
  13. George P

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    Next time don't do this unless you have a soft mat under yourself.......
     
  14. wickedsprint

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    Here is a pic, easier to see in person. One main crack and a spider crack off of it. When viewed from rear, rail is noticeably bent. You can also see the deformation on the corner.


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  15. wickedsprint

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    Coffee cup is also ceramic and very hard.

    That corner where rail is weak and easily bent...apparently. I too would have guessed my tile would have cracked first.

    I’ve also seen this happen to a gen 4 22 slide from about 5 feet into tile as well during an assembly demonstration. That one bent enough that it wouldn’t fit on the rails.

    I replaced this one with a 19 Gen 5. Still not sure what I wanna do.
     
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  16. edwardware

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    Dumb question: does that bit of rail actually interact with the frame? Does the frame rail insert reach that far back?
     
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  17. stchman

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    This is absurd, I thought Glocks were supposed to be rugged?

    I don't think any of the aftermarket guys are making Gen5 slides, but I do believe that the Gen4 slide fits. I'd just buy a Lone Wolf bare slide, take all the stuff out of the cracked slide, and install it on the Lone Wolf slide.
     
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    Tig it up...I like this. :what:
     
  19. Jack B.

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    Don't drop your Glock.:cool:
     
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  20. FL-NC

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    That's insane- I have a Glock that I broke the frame on by shooting thousands of +P rounds (and the gun still functioned). Glock replaced the frame free, and the same slide is on it 10,000 rounds or so later. I would work my way up the Glock ladder on this one- that sounds like pretty poor customer service for them.
     
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    Wow.

    All I can say is "Ceramic Perfection".
     
  22. Taroman

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    You said duty gun.
    If so, would your department need to approve what you are carrying on duty?
    Wait to hear what the department armorer has to say.
    OEM replacement would seem to be the only option.
     
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  23. wickedsprint

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    This was one of my personal off duty guns, not on duty. I thought I might like to sometimes carry a full size off duty that wasn’t city owned so my two off duty guns were a 26 and a 17.

    Moving forward I replaced the broken 17 with a 19 and I’ll probably sell the 26 to simplify.
     
  24. JohnKSa

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    This is mentioned in the armorer's course. When the gun is assembled, it is quite rugged and dropping it is highly unlikely to result in functional damage.

    When the slide is off the frame, there are two ways it can land, if dropped, which will damage the slide beyond repair.

    1. The one you discovered. The slide slots at the rear of the slide create a weak spot and if the slide lands on a hard surface on either rear lower corner of the slide, odds are good that it will be ruined.

    2. The "loop" at the front of the slide where the recoil spring seats. If the slide lands on a hard surface so that the loop hits first, there is a good chance the slide will be ruined.

    When the slide is disassembled from the gun, extra care should be taken with it.
    Not when assembled.
    Two different things entirely. The gun is rated for +P ammunition, so if it breaks from shooting any reasonable amount of such ammunition, warranty replacement is called for.

    The only way to cause the type of damage to the slide described is by dropping the disassembled slide on a hard surface. The gun is not warranted to withstand drop damage while disassembled--no gun is. Therefore it's not reasonable to expect Glock to replace the part at no charge.

    That said, it might be possible, depending on how things are handled, to get the slide from Glock at discount. I would probably try to handle it through the department armorer rather than as an individual. Glock tends to support its armorers pretty well, and is also very good about taking care of its LE customers.
     
  25. rskent

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    If I abuse my gun, I would not expect Glock to back it up. I just don’t see where this gun was abused. Its not like the guy threw it out of a 13th story window. He simply dropped it on the floor. I think you could reasonably expect Glock to stand behind it. If I were he, I would call Glock again and try to talk to someone a little higher up the food chain.

    After looking at the pictures I think any decent welder would be able to fix er up. Definitely would be an ugly spot though.
     
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