Glock Triggers

[army_eod]

Are aftermarket triggers that much of an improvement?
I can shoot my G-19 well with stock trigger.

 

[Heir Kommt Die Sonne]

I'd say no, only because I've heard they can cause malfunction issues.
A while ago I was curious in a all metal trigger, designed exactly like the plastic one but metal. But to be honest probably just one of those "you're trying to reinvent something that already exists" things. If a Glock wants a plastic trigger, it wants a plastic trigger. The best things to replace on a Glock are the sights, by far.

 

[ATLDave]

Are aftermarket triggers that much of an improvement?
I can shoot my G-19 well with stock trigger.

Are you talking about the actual piece that hangs down into the trigger guard space that you pull with your index finger? Or are you talking about the "trigger" being the firing system (just as one would refer to having a "trigger job" when you've gotten a gunsmith to modify the hammer/sear interface on a 1911, even thought the piece of metal you pull on is unchanged)?

I'm not a Glock guy and so I have no particular views, just trying to help with clarity.

 

[earlthegoat2]

You can shoot well without a trigger improvement.

Glock triggers are just good enough for me not to mind them and not bad enough to cause egregious groups.

 

[tarosean]

All my Glocks run Vaneck triggers.

I see zero reason to put up with sub par when there are options.

 

[needmorecowbell]

My 25 years of experience of shooting and owning and buying and trading and tinkering have taught me that the holes pretty much wind up in the same spot and the same size. A lot of the hub bun is just marketing. Unless you’re a serious competitor, I wouldn’t worry about it. The Gen 5 trigger by the way is quite nice.

 

[Hartkopf]

All my Glocks are for self defense so I leave the triggers bone stock. If I ever get into competition I'm sure I'll modify the hell out of a designated race gun.

 

[RovinOn]

I have never altered or changed a trigger on any of my owned handguns.
I just have worked with what I have. If I don’t like a certain handgun for its performance especially for carry purposes I just retire it to the safe.

 

[AK103K]

All mine are stock triggers and I never noticed they were a problem.

Im not one to worry on the trigger either, and cant remember the last time I had a gun with a bad or unacceptable factory trigger. Glock or otherwise.

Once you start convincing yourself that you need crutches to shoot well with, both your wallet and your shooting, is going to suffer.

 

[army_eod]

I shoot it well enough. I am spoiled by my 1911s and CZ Shadow 2. This was yesterday. I had not fired a Glock for a year. Took a while to get back on target.

 

[JDR]

I can shoot my G-19 well with a stock trigger.

I shot my Glocks for years with stock triggers then within the last year I put an APEX Action Enhanced trigger package on my Gen3 17, and then I put the takeoff trigger bar from my 17 and an APEX fp block plunger and the APEX connector on my Gen3 19. I like these setups a lot more than the stock triggers, the APEX setups really give a nice rolling trigger break vs. the hard break of the stock Gen3 triggers.

I'd say no, only because I've heard they can cause malfunction issues

I have experience with the APEX setups on two of my guns and I’ve had no trigger malfs with either setup. I know folks who really like the ZED trigger assemblies on theirs Glocks and having tried out a few of these, a properly setup ZED trigger isn’t bad. I think the few Pyramid triggers I’ve tried out were a bit too light for a carry gun but that is strictly “MHO”.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I'd say no, only because I've heard they can cause malfunction issues.

More often than not, this has to do with folks who go too far with reduced power striker springs

I've only handled a couple of Gen5 triggers and would shoot one for a bit before changing anything. If it were a Gen3 or Gen4, I wouldn't hesitate to go with an improved trigger/bar from Apex Tactical

 

[JDR]

The APEX trigger setups on my Glocks have always kept the stock striker springs, firing pin block springs, and trigger return springs. I wouldn’t have lighter than stock springs on any of my guns.

 

[jmohme]

I have several Glocks. They are all SD weapons with the triggers that they came with

I also have a couple of recently acquired CZ's. One is a 75b that I have done some trigger work to and the other is a new Shadow 2.
Both have smooth trigger actions, with well under 3 lbs pull.

I shoot my Glock G20 gen4 better than both of the CZ's, but that is probably only because of the range time I have had with the G20.

 

[Trey Veston]

I'm not a trigger snob. I can get good groups and results with whatever once I get accustomed to it, though I do realize that some triggers are better than others and easier to shoot accurately.

I have three Glock pistols. All are relatively stock and two have the OEM (-) connector installed. All have the 25 cent polishing job. All will do 1.5" or better at 25 yards.

My S&W M&P40c, which is my current carry gun (soon to be replaced by the new P365 currently in training) has a polished trigger assembly and an Apex sear installed. It breaks at 4.25 lbs. But it feels like I am pulling a spoon through a bucket of marbles to get to that 4.25 lb break.

My new P365 breaks at 6.5 lbs, but is short and crisp with no creep and no wall. I would rate it as superior to the lower weight M&P and Glock triggers.

My only suggestion for improving a Glock trigger is to install a (-) connector for twenty bucks and do the twenty-five cent polish job and then learn to live with it.

 

[sigarms228]

If you can shoot your Glock 19 well enough then I would certainly leave it alone. I bough my Gen 2 Glock 19 new in the early 90s and the internals other than RSA are still original and for me the trigger is great on it for shooting. On a good day I can put 15 rounds in about a 6 inch group at 75 feet .

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I am amused by how many have posted in this topic that have not used aftermarket triggers, but seem to know a lot about them.
I have a few Glocks and most are stock. I have two that have aftermarket Ghost 3.5 lbs Connectors. And yes they do make a difference.

I’ve also fired several Glocks with aftermarket triggers. Some were good and some were great.
I built a Polymer 80 not long ago. It started out with standard Glock internal parts, except for the trigger. I got a CMC trigger on sale and decided that the Polymer 80 would be my test gun for it.


The first thing I noticed was the feel of the trigger. I really like the way the flat trigger feels. Next was the shorter reset.
The trigger was nice but I wanted to see if a few other changes would make a difference.
I installed a Ghost 3.5 connector and found that it gave me a nice crisp trigger.
I then picked up a polished firing pin block like this one.


You talk about supper smooth trigger pull, but I found it to be to light and went back to the stock safety block.
Like I said, my Polymer 80 is my test gun and it’s also a range toy.


Here it is with the new Strike Industry Mass Driver Comp. Just put it on yesterday and love it.


My son loves Glocks and enjoys the 19X , but fell in love with the trigger on the Polymer 80.

Now, for my duty guns, they are stock, but my personal guns will all get a 3.5 Ghost connector.
I may get a CMC trigger for my 19X.

 

[Lennyjoe]

All of my Glocks get the 3.5 lb Ghost connectors installed when they get home. Just like the feel of the lighter trigger.

 

[JDR]

I am amused by how many have posted in this topic that have not used aftermarket triggers, but seem to know a lot about them

You said it, there’s a difference between opinions and informed opinions. And there’s a difference between modifications that have been properly done and hatchet jobs. And it’s difficult to explain the benefits of a modified trigger to people who have already made their mind up that the trigger shouldn’t be or doesn’t need to be modified.

I would recommend the APEX trigger mods I have on my Gen3 17 &19 to anybody with a Gen3 17 &19. And you should save your takeoffs so if you don’t like the way the trigger feels or works, just send the parts back for refund.

 

[rbernie]

I dislike the two-stage trigger pull of the pre-Gen5 models, so those pistols all get Ghost Edge connectors. I am happy enough with the Gen5 trigger group that I generally leave it alone.

I have tried an Apex flat trigger assembly in a Gen4, and I didn’t much care for it. It certainly didn’t do well sitting in the Texas sun at an outdoor range during a range cease fire – the aluminum trigger got so hot that it was literally painful to shoot until it cooled off in the shade.

 

[1KPerDay]

If anyone wants to try a ZEV flat faced trigger kit, let me know. The trigger safety lever doohickey doesn't agree with my finger but otherwise it feels good.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/wts-zev-pro-glock-gen-1-3-flat-trigger-kit-ut.862235/

 

[rskent]

I have a couple Glocks. I like Glock triggers. There, I said it.

In my limited experience Glocks triggers very a lot in pull weight and smoothness. I have had one as heavy as 8 lbs. but most are close to 5 or 6 lbs. I have had a few that were pretty good from the start, but they all can use a bit of help. I like a 5 to 5 ½ pound pull weight. That’s easy. A connector and maybe a trigger return spring. I have Glocks with dot, minus, and ghost connectors. The connector that ended up in my G17 was a Ghost rocket 3.5. Nice connector. I will be buying more. It takes a minute to fit, but it feels good to me.

What really helps is just elbow grease. Glock produces guns at a price point so sometimes things get overlooked. Things like the trigger dingus being proud of the trigger, easy fix. Just trim it down a bit. The other end of the dingus having a burr on it. Deburr it, duh. The pin on the side of the trigger that rubs the frame. Again, deburr it, again duh. The striker tail getting a groove worn into it from the cruciform, polish it (both) flat.

I think if you feel like you need an aftermarket trigger then you should buy one. If you think like me, that you can make it better, then why not give it a try. Glock parts are cheap. I am happy with the results that I get. You might not be. It’s your gun and your money.

 

[rskent]

I dislike the two-stage trigger pull of the pre-Gen5 models,

Funny thing, I have been a service rifle shooter for quit a while. I like a two-stage trigger. Three-pound pull with a 1 ½ pound break is perfection to me.
I’m not saying that a Glock is anything like a 4 ½ pound Geissele high speed trigger, but the idea is the same. The thought process is the same.


Maybe I do need one of those aftermarket triggers after all.

 

[Riomouse911]

I put an Apex trigger on my Glock 17L because the trigger safety blade on the stock trigger stuck out a tiny bit from the trigger face and this made it irritating to shoot.

The Apex feels great and the trigger pull is lighter than stock. To me, it was worth the (sale ) price.

Stay safe.

 

[tarosean]

I am amused by how many have posted in this topic that have not used aftermarket triggers, but seem to know a lot about them.

Do have to wonder if these folks still roll around with Drum brakes, no power stearing, manual windows, etc. on their vehicle too.. After all, they dont want "crutches".