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Gloom, Doom, Agony & Defeat!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by OleCodger, Dec 22, 2008.

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  1. OleCodger

    OleCodger Member

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    Oh me, I just received my postage prepaid carton to return my Ruger LCP to the factory for MAJOR MANDATORY modification. I'm upset. They should have personally come to my home and picked up the gun to show a little respect. Yeah, I know, I should have bought a _________(fill in the blank) as it has a perfect reputation of no FTF, not firing when dropped, or ________(again fill in the blank). And additionally Ruger copied the P3AT, Beretta or________(fill in the blank). I may just boycott Ruger for their stealing the patent, that was dirty pool and absolutely unheard of in any other corporation with a USA home base. Yes, I agree, the .380 only would make the assailant angry....(that's why I also carry a baseball bat and sabre for back up protection). Never been shot by a .380 but I'm sure that it would only raise a "hickey" at the point of impact.

    But my MAJOR concern is two fold.......1. Ruger should have known better......afterall they've been in business for X number of years and all other manufacturers make perfect pistols, rifles, clubs, baseball bats, etc. And second....the return of the little LCP will leave me almost defenseless for ________ number of months (again fill in the blank). This inconvenience will leave me only with a 16 gauge shotgun, PT1911SS .45 caliber, two High Standard .22's, a Remington 552BDL automatic .22 rifle, a wife that can explode on a second's notice and a J C Higgins single shot .22 as last resort for protection in the LCP's absence. I may have the local PD drive by every hour or so during darkness for insured protection. For daytime protection I'll either carry the 16 gauge or insist that my wife accompany me any time that I leave the house.

    If I ever do receive the LCP back into my possession, I will thoroughly test it for anything that Ruger may have over looked, such as fuzz on the trigger or dust in the rifling, also will check for fingerprints other than mine on the main frame. Then I will range test it and report any problems incurred that were not already there prior to shipping the gun back to its origin. I may even wear a bullet proof vest and jockey strap and drop it on concrete to see if it will go bang! This may be a long drawn out process so please be patient. If the little LCP does go bang when I slam it down on concrete, I will also report on the functionality of the bullet proof jockey strap per chance the bullet reallllllly goes awry.

    I would cover some other miserable topics but I must close so I can blow my nose and wipe my eyes.......well, actually I'll probably wipe my eyes first!!

    All you lucky dudes that didn't buy a LCP have a good safe day and please pray for my safety!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:
     
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  2. Old Fuff

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    You are truly having a hard time, and I feel for 'ya. But that's what you get for buying a gun (any gun). :D
     
  3. OleCodger

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    Thanks Ole Fuff

    I'm sorry that I unloaded all my problems on ya but after all, a feller can only take so much..........I will probably end up on sedatives before this whole thing is over.......but such is life!!!!

    HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND THANKS FOR LISTENING!!!!
     
  4. Old Fuff

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    Well in the depressing days of our declining years we senior citizens need to stick together. Hopefully you won't have to unleash you wife on some unsuspecting mugger... :evil:
     
  5. Mike OTDP

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    Recommend that you replace the LCP with a death-dealing hangover.
     
  6. OleCodger

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    OTDP.....

    Tnx for the reccomendation....however, since your solution to my futile problem has some finality involved, I wouldn't be around to moan and groan over what a wicked curve ball that Ruger threw me and I wouldn't miss that for the world!!! I love wallowing in this quagmire......... However, be advised that I truly do appreciate your taking the time to attempt to help me out of this bottomless pit!!!!!!

    And a Merry Christmas to you!!!!
     
  7. dispatch

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    These things seem to work themselves out don’t they. Major disappointment I’m sure, but I’m guessing you faced worse situations. And, by the way, I’d hate to be the guy that messed with you and that 16 gauge right now. Merry Christmas my brother. If you get to North Texas I’ll buy you a Lone Star Long Neck and a Keller’s Hamburger.
     
  8. Zundfolge

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    So how long from the time you signed up online til you got the packet?
     
  9. XDShooter07

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    Mandatory?? Didn't know the recall was mandatory.....or were you just mid-riot when you wrote that. How would they even know you had an LCP; did you register it with them..........or did you request the recall box?
     
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    i have only one ruger. i also have six cuts in my hand when i use it. my dad swears by ruger. i swear at my ruger.
     
  11. OleCodger

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    Ahhhhhhhh,

    Just got carried away a bit when it came to the word mandatory!! And it was approximately six weeks - two months between sending the form back to Ruger and receiving the box to return it in. And I requested the authorization to return on line after hearing about the recall.

    I trust that everyone "read into" the "tongue in cheek" dissertation! I love Ruger and also have a Mark III Competitor with their name stamped on the side that is one shooting son of a gun. I just became really, really tired of all the Ruger bashing, the LCP to be specific, that goes on so thought I'd save the bashers some time and trouble. I really love the little LCP and it has become a daily companion of mine in my right front pocket (sleeping in a Neeisis pocket holster). My only problem is that I sometimes forget that it is even there.

    And I do need to clarify one point in my original note......if I had to choose between the 16 gauge and my Little Red Head Wife for protection, I'd choose the Little Red Head any day of the week!!!! She can go from "safe" to "fire" much qucker than the 'Higgins and is much more dependable!!!!!! :uhoh:

    Everyone have a great day and a Merry Christmas...........
     
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  12. OleCodger

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    Tnx Dispatch!

    That is one heckufa offer.......I'll take you up on that the next time I'm in the Lone Star state! I hope that the Little Red Head is also included in that offer.....she gets mighty testy when left out!!!
     
  13. Old Fuff

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    You know, if that little read head happens to read this thread you might have to move to Texas - or maybe southern Mexico... :what: :evil: :D
     
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    I'd have to agree. The drop safety issue with Keltecs is well known, and definitely should have been known by Ruger.
    When I first heard about and saw the LCP, I figured that Ruger took the design and improved upon it (i.e.-no drop safety problem).
    And if Ruger had not known about Keltec's drop issue (there's no way I believe that for one minute), they should have tested their own gun for drop safety once they had a couple prototypes to play with.

    I'm a die hard Ruger fan for life. This is just another screw up that I hope they learn from.
     
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    Remember that Bill Ruger Sr. is no longer doing the designing, and I'm not sure he would have made a polymer pocket pistol in the first place. It wasn't the sort of thing he was interested in. He often copied the exterior looks and cosmetics of other popular firearms, but always changed (and often improved) the interior lockwork. Those earlier guns seldom had mechanical problems.
     
  16. OleCodger

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    Hey Old Fuff

    If that Little Red Head ever sees this thread, there won't be enough left of me to send to either Texas or Mexico. That little Ruger LCP would look like a cannon when placed beside my remains. That intense stare of hers' could melt a glacier the size of North America. Mind you, I'm not scared of her, I just have LOTS of respect for her and try to keep my distance! She's sorta like having a stick of dynamite with extremely short fuses and caps on both ends............
     
  17. Old Fuff

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    Is that what the mean by "Global Warming???" :D
     
  18. OleCodger

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    She wrote the book on global warming!!!!
     
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    Ruger LCP turn around time

    Don't worry about getting your RUGER back I shipped mine off last Thursday at around 1600 and got it back today at around 1100 thats pretty quick plus they give you a nice ball cap:what: for the inconvenience I have been to the range today with and as always it 100% reliable:what::what:. I know that is hard to believe but its true.
     
  20. OleCodger

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    Hey Isfagan

    Man, that's great news!!! However I really wish that you had not been so positive about it.......afterall, Ruger should have worked over the weekend. That way they could have gotten it back to you in three days instead of five. And just think of all the shootin' you could have done during that extra two days!!! But now the real disappointment is that it shoots perfectly. Are you absolutely sure that there wasn't an FTF, Stovepipe or just any kind of misfire at all? Or maybe it only hit nine X's instead of ten?? Oh, I know, mebbe they sent you the wrong color cap......now there is a possible area that you could really express your Gloom, Doom, Agony and Defeat!!!! Are you sure that Ruger didn't swap clips and send you the clip that should have gone to my proud Ruger owning neighbor in in Arkansas???!!! Did you double check to make sure that you can't place the clip into the weapon backwards??!!

    Just anything so that I can bash this entire exercise???!!!

    Oh Well, mebbe not.......

    By the way....it appears that you are new to the site.......Welcome Aboard and please take all my ranting in stride.......it's all tongue in cheek!!!! I guarantee you that you are among friends and will thoroughly enjoy the site!!!!! We need all the support that we gun lovers can muster right now:) And the Red Head is really a pretty nice gal and definitely pretty..........she's put up with me for nigh unto fifty years...............in spite of my remarks.........she's the best thing that ever happened to me!.......Honey, I hope that you read this one also.......I was just jokin' on all that other stuff that I said about you <:)>



    Isfagan.......have a MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! Maybe there is something in the world to smile about afterall!!!!!!!:D
     
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    Boy, after all of this I think I'm going to go out and hug the first Ruger I see. I had the pleasure of meeting and discussing guns with the Old Man (Bill Ruger Sr.) and I regret that he never got a chance to read this thread. I think he would have gotten a kick out of it.
     
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    Will you folks never learn?

    Didja notice the box they sent to ship it in? 4 sides…a top…a bottom…corrugated cardboard…
    Waaaaait a minute…damn if Ruger hasn’t copied the Kel-Tec box!

    Those ********!
     
  23. OleCodger

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    Basicblur......

    Man, I like that name......would like to watch (or at least try to see) you Qweeeek Straaaaawwww!!!!

    Concerning the box, I'm glad you called that to my attention. I was so upset over them shipping it to me all folded and flat that I missed your point......GREAT OBSERVATION!!!.......I actually had to remove the wrapper and unfold that sucker myself.......took me at least 23 seconds. Oh well.............such is life.

    Basicblur.......that "blur' with practice may just turn into "did you see that, wanna see it again??!!" MERRY CHRISTMAS ANDA HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
     
  24. OleCodger

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    Fuff, u ole sonufagun!

    Give the first one a hug for me also! Man, I envy you........had I shook (shaken??) hands with The Old Man, I wouldn't have washed that hand for three months!!!!! By the way, I flunked grammar and made a "D" in spelling.....spelled Ruger "Rooger" for 25 years..................
     
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    He was a fun guy to know, but only if you knew your stuff. Unlike most top gun company presidents (who were bean counters) Bill Ruger knew guns, gun engineering, and gun building – forwards, backwards and any which way. He built his business without borrowing money, and instead used the profits from past success to tool the next one. He always had time to talk to someone that owned one or more of his guns, and listen to what they had to say. At one time he was confined to a wheelchair, and I watched him sit with a very long line of admirers that just wanted to shake his hand, but he would get them talking, and talk they did while the others waited.

    On the other hand he could spot pretentious stuffed shirts and phony self-appointed experts a mile away. After a few words he knew what they were and got rid of them.

    He also had a high opinion of himself and his own expertise – which was usually justified because he was largely what he thought he was. One time he came down to see me from either Prescott or Phoenix – I forget which. It was a raw, cold February day, but he came anyway because he wanted to see what I thought about what would become the P-85 – his first 9mm double-action pistol, which he hoped the Army might be interested in. I told him he was making a mistake by looking back at the old Walter P-38 lockwork, which was complicated and expensive to make, and suggested he should look at a more simple design that was striker fired. Of course he disagreed, and it was one of the few times I ended being right. He will without question go down in history as being one of the great gun designers of the 20th century. :)
     
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