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Go BLACK you won't go BACK!

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by rbertalotto, Mar 21, 2012.

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  1. rbertalotto

    rbertalotto Member

    Jan 19, 2011
    South of Boston
    I'm back with the Black!

    I recently acquired few 1800 single shot rifles. A few years back I bought a Shiloh Sharps and shot it a bit, but my head was more into precision BR and at the time the waiting period for Sharps rifles was a year or more. Someone offered me stupid money so I sold it.

    Cowboy Action Shooting grabbed my interest a year or so ago and watching the side match buffalo shoots renewed my interest in 'Buffalo" rifle. I bought a Winchester 1885 BPCR, a Pedersoli 1874 Sharps and a Pedersoli 1871 Remington Rolling Block. All in 45-70......The search starts for accuracy!



    This Rolling Block now wear a tang sight and a globe front. That Tasco reproduction scope was like looking through the bottom of a Vaseline jar!

    At first I was buying my lead bullets. Although there are many custom bullet makers to sell you their wares, it soon became obvious that the hobby would not be complete unless I cast my own bullets. So a few hundred dollars later , a ton of molds, a PID, two furnaces, a Star Lubrisizer, and a sore back for my postman delivering 70 pound boxes of lead from RotoMetals, I'm now an official bullet caster.


    I didn't want to use Black Powder because of the cleanup chores of brass and gun. I started out using smokeless powders. But I just couldn't get the Winchester or the Rolling Block to shoot accuratly. The Sharps is an amazing tack driver with anything I load into it. And this gave me a false sense that the other two rifles should perform likewise with smokeless powder.

    Forums such as this kept telling me I needed to go BLACK. I resisted. Simply didn't want to deal with the clean up. But I finally bought some FFg and loaded a few rounds and headed to the range. The Rolling Block went from a 5" rifle at 100 yards to a 1.5" rifle! And at 200 yards I can easily keep five shots within 4" with iron sights! The Winchester wears a Malcolm short scope and it can now hold less than 3" at 200 yards. I've not taken the targets out to 300 and 500 yards yet.

    I discovered two thing that make it crazy easy to clean up BP.

    Ballistol and Stainless Steel Pin Tumbling!

    I made up a bottle of "Moose Milk", 25% Balistol to 75% Water. I put it into a spray bottle. Before I shoot the rifles I spray some on a rag and wipe down the guns. Any BP residue that comes in contact with the rifles easy wipes off at the end of the shooting session. I saturate a few cloth patches and swab the chamber of the rifle before shooting. After I fire five rounds I use a damp patch to swab the bore before I fire five more rounds. I find this proceedure removes the fouling without disturbing my point of impact. When I'm done shooting I use 100% Balistol (available in a spray can) to clean everything. The bore gets a couple of three wet patches and then five or six strokes of a bronze brush and a few more wet patches followed by a few dry and then a storage coating of 100% Ballistol. This takes about 5 minutes and my bores look and perform beautifully!

    For the brass, I'm here to tell you that the Stainless Steel pins that all the shooting forums are talking about are simply amazing.

    At the range I use a simple water bottle filled with water and a squirt of dish detergent. As I fire a round, the empty case goes into the water bottle. After there are a few round it gets a shake.

    Once I get home the bottle is emptied, the brass is placed in a rotary tumbler with water, SS pins, a shot of dish detergent and a splash of white vinegar. I let them tumble for an hour or so. The brass comes out looking brand new. Inside and out! I do not remove my primers. I tumble with primers in place and it is simply fantastic how clean the INSIDE of the cases are.

    To dry the cases I made a little rig out of suspended ceiling vent material and I stand the cases on top of my dehumidifier where the warm, dry air is blowing into the cases. They dry in about 10 minutes. Ready for decapping and reloading.


    I'm not sure how it could be much easier.

    Go BLACK, You won't go back!
  2. Foto Joe

    Foto Joe Member

    Jan 13, 2010
    Cody, WY
    Ahhh Ballistol, the miracle elixir.

    Since it sounds like you also reload smokeless I can tell you that Ballistol 1:1 makes a decent case lube if you aren't using carbide sizing dies. The only die that I have that isn't carbide is my 44-40 set. Since I don't load a lot of these it just isn't worth buying commercial case lube, that's where the Ballistol comes in.

    I would suggest though that you are spending way too much money on the aerosol version of this product. A cheap squirt bottle from China-Mart filled with straight Ballistol works great instead of buying the aerosol.
  3. mykeal

    mykeal Member

    Sep 9, 2006
    Obviously spending money isn't a primary concern.
  4. meef

    meef Member

    Nov 7, 2004
    Foto Joe,

    Just an observation on your sig line.
    I would venture to say that you could tell your kids that you've lived through all of yours, not most of them.

    Otherwise it would more likely be an obituary, not a sig line.

  5. 1KPerDay

    1KPerDay Member

    Jan 19, 2006
    Happy Valley, UT
    Man, when you do something, you do it right, dontcha?? :cool: :eek:
  6. scrat

    scrat Member

    Jan 27, 2007
    Monrovia, CA
    Cool Set up and nice rifles
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