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Go nuke this .gov site and show them what we think.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by KarlPMann, Feb 19, 2003.

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  1. KarlPMann

    KarlPMann Member

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    Ready.gov. We were discussing this government site on another board when someone had noticed that our good old gov. neglected to include "arms" as a tool to have to help prevent terrorism. Go to the site and use the feedback at the bottom center of the page to let the gov. know how you feel about this. In the past I've seen polls on the net that were around for a week get near 75-100,000 total responses with as many as 75-80,000 being pro gun. If we post this on every gun board out there, maybe we can get the same message straight to the would be leaders of ours. Karl.
     
  2. homeka45

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    Done, although I wonder if I'm now on some file in the DHS's database. Oh well if the fecal matter slams into the impeller blades maybe they'll be too busy to bother with little old me.
     
  3. Tamara

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    I asked them if a well-regulated militia was still necessary to the security of a free state and, if so, why "arms" weren't on the recommended list of emergency supplies.
     
  4. AZTOY

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    Mail sent but i didn't give my name or e-mail .:scrutiny:
     
  5. KarlPMann

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    Good going people. Every e-mail counts. When they start counting up the number of people saying the same thing, maybe then it will sink in. Karl. :evil:
     
  6. 4570Rick

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    My comment

    Where is the call for all firearms owners to hone their skills and keep vigilant.

    :banghead:
     
  7. Art Eatman

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    My effort:

    "While individual confrontation with any terrorist is unlikely, it can happen, and personal self-defense is then necessary. Unless We The People are regarded by Government as incompetent (But what is the source of government's employees?), advice should be made available as to arms, training in usage, and training as to rational and lawful behavior."

    I luvvit when I can smile ever so sweetly and infer that my audience is possibly composed of a pack of fools, don't you? :D

    Art
     
  8. The Nip

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    It's just my humble opinion, but you probably shouldn't use the words "nuke," "gov" and "site" in the same sentence online. All these kinds of boards need are further scrutiny by gun-grabber federal agents.

    Dammit...but I just did exactly that, didn't I?


    NIP
     
  9. AnklePocket

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    "Since it's my opinion that the armed, law abiding citizen is our first line of defense, it's also my opinion that the 2nd Amendment IS homeland security. Please pass this notion onto the lawmakers of New Jersey, where many terrorists probably are, so that we may possibly restore our 2nd Amendment Rights."
     
  10. Lone_Gunman

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    I will play the devil's advocate here for a few minutes.

    The ready.gov site appears to deal with nuclear, radiation, chemical and biological terrorism. It doesn't seem to deal with the inevitable civil unrest that would follow, or terrorists running around shooting people randomly with guns, etc.

    So I will ask, how relevant is having a firearm to dealing with the specific kind of threats that site deals with?

    A 1911 isnt going to do much good against a dirty bomb, is it?

    The site is giving advice on how to deal with issues directly related to chemical, biological, and nuclear attacks. No more, no less. Firearms dont really figure into that equation.

    After 9/11, there was a surge of new first time gun buyers. Buying a gun to protect yourself against 757's flying into really tall buildings doesnt make much sense to me either.
     
  11. Keith_Yorktown

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    Of course, the Ready.gov site isn't about preventing terrorism, so much as it is preparing our fellow citizens for the possible effects of a terrorist attack.

    Now firearms may have a place there, if looting and rioting were to occur, but that's not something I see the government telling the general population (no matter how many people you get to slam their site.)

    Hopefully you wont overload the site and cause concerned people to be unprepared.
     
  12. Greg L

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    Part of being prepared is being able to survive the afteramth. I agree that there isn't a whole lot you can do if a dirty bomb goes off next door. The point though is that given the mental state of the sheeple out there there will be social unrest. One would hope that we as a group would pull together but it wouldn't be a bad idea to be ready in case we didn't.

    Greg
     
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    here is what I sent them

    Email: fatherbohab@sweeet.net
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    Category: Usefulness of Information
    Feedback: You forgot one of the most important
    devices that can prevent and protect against terrorism. Firearms.

    Israeli citizens have on numerous occasions stopped suicide bombers with their legally carried handguns.

    Arming oneself against looters, rioters
    and those bent on taking advantage of the mayhem caused by a terrorist attack would also be prudent and well advised.

    I hope that omitting guns from your readiness kit was just an oversight and not just a silly political correctness
    ploy.

    Sincerely,
    JSalcedo
     
  14. KarlPMann

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    Lots of good responses, keep up the good work. Karl. :D
     
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    Here is what I wrote: It is sad to see that American’s would rather cower like sheep than to defend their home and the United States against foreign aggressors. The Constitution of the United States contains what is needed for homeland security and that is the 2nd amendment to the Bill of Rights.
     
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    Well I sent them a message but can't paste it here.

    Dang PC crashed and lost it from the clipboard.


    So be it.
     
  17. KarlPMann

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    Makes you feel like :banghead: and :cuss: huh. Keep hitting this one people. Karl.
     
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    I simply said, "Safe storage and operation of firearms should be taught and recommended."

    Larry
     
  19. Pilgrim

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    My input to their feedback page.


    No recommendation to stock up on weapons and ammunition? I take it you expect law enforcement services to be 100% effective even when all other services are put out of action or rendered ineffective.

    You guys are dreamers.

    Bruce Stanton
     
  20. Sam Adams

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    Here's my response:


    You folks seem to have forgotten that the best defense
    against a terrorist act is to prevent it in the first place. Since
    we (thankfully) do not have 10 or 20 million law enforcement
    personnel in this country, the citizenry must be relied upon to
    provide notification and, if necessary, armed force against
    terrorists caught in the act of committing an act of terrorism.
    This requires firearms, and the ability of citizens to carry them
    in public without fear of being locked up in jail. In case you
    think that the citizenry stopping terrorists is a fantasy, check
    out the Israeli experience, where literally hundreds of
    incidents EACH YEAR are stopped by armed citizens well
    before security personnel can get to the scene.

    I hope that omitting guns from your readiness kit was just an
    oversight and not due to political correctness. Your fellow
    citizens are not paying your salary in order to be treated like
    a bunch of children. Further, it would be wise to consider the
    population base from which all of you and all of the others
    responsible for our security come.
     
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    I emailed them as well and gave them my name and email address.

    Molon Labe! :neener:
     
  22. MudPuppy

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    With the gift of hindsight, I'm raising this old thread.

    I saw the billboard that scared me into going to www.ready.gov. With the real world experience of Katrina behind us, does anyone think that if they did everything recommended (but nothing extra, like say, arming yourself against criminal aggression) that you'd have made out okay in the aftermath of that civil AND GOVERNMENT collapse?

    I heard those people were eating each other after two days...while that doesn't appear to have actually happened, I'd hate to be eaten for the lack of shooting back.
     
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    You realize they can see the redirects from this forum in the server logs right?

    Anyway... yes they did omit firearms, reason is they can boss you around if you're unarmed, making your family a small piece of their "management" system.

    Effectively your fellow citizens have turned you into a widget that must be cataloged and placed into its appropriate container.

    ;)
     
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    I, too signed mine, asked if they didn't TRUST Americans to be armed?
    To paraphrase a great American,when he was being inspected,injected,
    selected and neglected, somewhere there is a file on me!
    robert garner
     
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