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God bless my mother-in-law!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Monkeyleg, Nov 11, 2005.

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  1. Monkeyleg

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    Quick background: my MIL has never allowed guns in her home, and for reasons I respect.

    On Sunday, a bunch of us had a retirement party for her at a restaurant. I wound up sitting next to her brother (my uncle-in-law?), who's very much a liberal Democrat. Across from me was my uncle's friend and his wife, both of whom are also died-in-the-wool, PBS-watching, art-gallery-wandering uber-liberals. Every time the subject turned to politics, I shifted the subject, not wanting to disrupt the party.

    Anyway, on Wednesday, my wife, uncle, uncle's friend and wife, and MIL had another get-together.

    My uncle knows my politics, and managed to "out" my wife in front of his friend and friend's wife. They were aghast that people as nice as my wife and I could be...could think we were...could even consider voting...conservative!

    My wife then mentioned that I was one of the leaders of the Wisconsin Concealed Carry Association, and have been working to pass a CCW bill. Uncle, and uncle's friend and his wife just about had heart attacks. They started in on my wife about "blood in the streets," etc.

    In steps my mother-in-law. (Anyone who crosses my MIL quickly finds themselves outgunned in the word department; her mouth should be registered as a Class III weapon).

    "You people live out here where it's safe and you don't care about anybody else. You should try living with all the gang-bangers and drug dealers. People need to be able to defend themselves. With Frank gone [my father-in-law died in August], there's nobody to protect me. I'm getting a gun, and I'm going to carry it...:cuss:"

    rat-a-tat-tat. brrrrrrpp. bam-bam-bam. This 68 year-old grandmother strafed those three liberals so quickly they were left stuttering, not knowing what to say.

    I know what to say, though: thanks, Mom!
     
  2. sumpnz

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    Very cool.
     
  3. The-Fly

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    time to go gun shopping :D
     
  4. Wedge

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    Hey now...I like art galleries and PBS (well a couple of the shows)!

    If my mother-in-law ever said that I think I would go into shock!

    So what are you getting her for Christmas?
     
  5. Parruthead

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    Very Cool Monkeyleg and on behalf of all us other gun owners in wisconsin thanks for making the effort to get us CCW. I wish i had more time to help the cause but i do make my calls to my Reps. Thankfully they have voted for CCW .
     
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    1st - thanks for all the efforts for on the political side of things. I lived there a year for college, and it was frustrating to say the least.

    2nd - sounds like the MIL needs a Christmas present...
     
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    One of the few things I mind about living in non-Denver Colorado is never getting to see knee jerk leftists have hysterics.
     
  8. Monkeyleg

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    "sounds like the MIL needs a Christmas present.."

    Well, maybe. I have to have a talk with her about whether she is really willing to pull a gun on a person, much less pull the trigger. I know the odds of injury or death, but if she would freeze up, things could be worse.

    I'm just glad to see her confront her brother and his friends about their obliviousness to reality. She lives in a part of Milwaukee where stabbings and shootings happen every night. They live in some quaint little town where the focus is on antique shops and stores that sell little artsy-fartsy stuff.

    Wedge, I'm a professional photographer, but I have no idea what art is or is not.

    The mere fact that I'm a photographer had my uncle's friend somehow convinced that I was a liberal anti-gunner just like him.

    There's nothing like shattering a liberal's stereotypes. ;)
     
  9. chris in va

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    All I have to say to that is better she have one on her than NOT have one and need it.

    I feel the same way, not sure what I would do in a 'situation', but I like knowing I at least have the option.

    Don't even think, just take her shopping. And sign her up for some classes.
     
  10. bachman1961

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    No purty guns fer Monkeylegs mom in law

    At first thought, I'd picture her with a gloss black snubnose revolver and pearl white grips for the quaint artsy fartsy downtown appeal. However, like you suggested, she'll need to know in her mind she will defend herself with opposing deadly force if (GOD forbid)) necessary. Maybe a more sinister looking firearm would be a better choice and her 'image' of it not be a work of art.
     
  11. kjeff50cal

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    Monkey Leg,
    I'm a photographer, sometimes journalist, publisher on hiatus, fisherman, SHOOTER, COLLECTOR, and HUNTER!!! When I got my first gig on a local paper I had a modest collection of guns and some how was talked into the lie that journalist do not need guns, do not carry, and have some kind of neutral observer 'protection':rolleyes: . For some years during my stint on the paper I actually sold :banghead: some (most) of my collection. Then some of my collegues started to tell me of their harrowing experiances of being threatened, mugged, and out right robbed because they carried thousands of dollars in equiptment into places where the 82nd Airborne would give pause to go (not without air support). I have been on the receiving end of some of this but I thought this was the price of journalism. Then I went to a highschool football game (what is more safe than a high school football game at the Astrodome with security everywhere :p ) . Before I could get to my car about six "students" wanted me to take their pictures, then they wanted to "take" my equiptment :what: . I had a very expensive long lense on a mono-pod that I welded like a war club and they (fortunately did not have their guns, probally in their car) backed down. Then I get to my car, get in and drive out of the gate I look back and a small black car was following me. I turned they turned. Armed with only a mono-pod and a tire tool I did the only thing I could think of.... head for the nearest police sub-station (about 3 miles away) and hope they would get the hint. While heading to the station I spotted a HPD cruiser and pulled along side it and got the officers attention. The small black car stopped about 50 feet behind me and made a U-turn back where they came from. The cop seeing the small car making the U is instantly interested in them and does his own U-turn and takes off after the car... I was not interested in what transpired afterwards (tired, sleeply and hungry, did not want to cover my own news story) went home post haste. I later learned a lot of my peers DID carry and one of my friends and mentors (he teaches highshool photography and is a journalist) has a large pistol & rifle collection (no he did not take them off of his pupils :p ). I bought a carry gun (.38 Rossi :barf: ) and a 10/22 and then a Glenfield 20 gauge pump shotty (got a good deal). I can only wonder what would have happened if didn't luck-out and that cop car was not there.
     
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    Glad to hear you came out of that in one piece, kjeff50cal.

    Maybe things are different with advertising photographers, because most every one I know is either a gun owner or at least pro-gun.

    The mistake that the liberal couple mentioned above was assuming that I was some kind of "artist," and therefore a member of the liberal elite.

    I'm not an artist. I shoot photographs for money. When business is good, I use a bit of that money to buy guns. :eek:

    As for my mother-in-law, I plan on talking to her, then taking her to a local shop that rents range guns. If all goes well there, then formal instruction would be next.

    She lives--for now--in a really bad part of town. I'd like to see her have a gun, but only if she's willing and capable of using it.
     
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    Keep up the good fight, Monkeyleg! I help mostly by advising whayto carry when it passes. ( When I actually get upatairs and behind the gun counter.) Gee, the .454 Ruger Alaskan in the case looks awful tempting...:D
     
  14. Wedge

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    For the artist part, I am far from an artist (I'm an engineer), but have always enjoyed art galleries and art. My best friend is the liberal artist from NYC that everyone knows and loves...fortunately he also has a brain so we can have a nice discussion about politics too. I defer to him when we are at the art gallery though.

    Shattering stereotypes is great. The only thing that REALLY bothers me is when people find out I like to hunt and shoot and say, "Wow, and you're so nice." Or "I never would have thought that." I do try to turn things in my favor though, and invite them shooting. Their dislike or fear of firearms generally stems from never being exposed or only being exposed negatively (like the nightly news in a violent city). I have a couple of non-shooting friends that will be coming out with me next month, and they were surprised to find out I shoot, so I call that a win for the cause.
     
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    Good for your Mom-in-law!!:D

    I have bunches of non-gun friends. It's always amazing when one finds out I'm into firearms. When the opportunity presents itself, I make it a point to bring out a 'nice one' to show off - something dressy and polished, such as my Kimber Custom Royale (polished blue flats, rosewood grips, fiber optic front sight/MMC adj. rear, gold-leafed logo) - a target/range queen. It's a handsome piece.

    They're always a bit timid about picking it up, but I show them it's cleared, and eventually they do, marvel at the weight, I explain how the sights work (glowing red fiber tube is seductive -) let them dry fire, and Bam! they want to try it :evil:

    There's a lot to be said about de-mystifying it all in a quiet setting. 99.9998%of these people have never even held a gun, and the fact that the act doesn't turn them into a homocidal maniacs on the spot seems to be a minor epiphany. Some (mostly women) still seem to wet their pants, put when I put it on the table in front of them, and tell them to "Watch -", and then again, "Watch -", and they say, "But it's not doing anything?!?" -I pounce -

    "Exactly. It's an in animate object. It is incapable of acting on it's own. It's all a matter of whose hand it's in . . ." Quite often, the lightbulb goes on, or at least begins to flicker or glow dimly. . .
     
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    Sounds like a good source of action for your MIL. Now I am freelancing (mostly event, weddings, etc). On occation I'll do a photojournalism gig (it better pay well). Saturday (11-12) I shot an event (a 90th birthday party for a local/national jazz icon) for a client (an auto dealer). It was great, and I enjoyed the music and made a few contacts (business & female:evil: ). BTW I keep a "car gun" (or should I say mini-van gun) within reach (no it isn't a handgun but something the average gangbanger knows enough not to mess with;) ). If I am going into the Texas verson of Falusa I carry my CZ-52 to keep company with the "mini-van gun". I'm still rebuilding (AD) and my next pistola is going to be either the updated version of my CZ (75B) or a nice .357 snub (more flexable, defense, woodsloafing, etc).

    kjeff50cal
     
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    Do journalists carry?

     
  18. Ellie

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    Yeah, Mom-in-law!!

    EXACTLY, Mike - I was raised to believe that 'guns are bad, m'kay,' and never really thought much about that assumption until I met my now-husband.

    When I went to the range with him for the first time, I was scared to pull the trigger on a .22, but when I did, a lightbulb went on. I saw that yes, this was a dangerous tool. So is a chainsaw. So is a car.

    The firearm mystique dissipated with that first trigger pull. I am respectful and cautious now, not irrationally frightened.

    (I could write forever about awakening to the fact that liberalism is a sociopathic emotional disorder, but that's another post).
     
  19. MissileCop

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    She ain't no Class III, she's an MMD (Mother of Mass Destruction) :D And I thoroughly enjoyed my mental picture of the liberal meltdown.

    I haven't visited the board lately, but reading about your MIL just made my day!
     
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    Monkeyleg

    Your story was great! Thanks for sharing. Very image-inspiring as I pictured the group at the table. I also have a bunch of northeastern and Californian friends who are the urban PBS/art gallery/liberal types, we often have spirited political discussions too. Hey, I like PBs and art galleries, too!

    My MIL, who is almost 80, lives most of the year in Montana. She and her husband (he's my wife's stepdad) both got deer AND elk tags every year until a few years ago when arthritis got to her and tremors got to him. He hunted with a sporterized 1903A3 he got through the NRA for ten bucks back in the day, unissued. We used to eat venison and elk jerky and steaks when we'd go there in winter.

    My wife says there was always had a gun cabinet in the house, from the time her mom married him when my wife was a young teen.

    AG
     
  21. Brad Johnson

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    Monkeyleg,

    By chance, your MIL wouldn't happen to have another daughter - late 30's to early 40's and single - would she? :p

    Brad
     
  22. Monkeyleg

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    Sorry, Brad. The 35 year-old daughter is married. But she did inherit the machinegun mouth.

    Fortunately for me, my wife didn't. ;)
     
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