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Going on Safari in Namibia, May-June 2008 - anyone want to tag along?

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  1. JohnCrighton

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    Found a killer deal for a 7 day hunting safari in Namibia, staying at the home of a wealthy retired German doctor and his wife and staff. Huge amount of land, trophy-quality game, and the lodging, meals, drinks, and hospitality are supposedly 5-star. But the price is just too damn good - this is the first year he's opened up to a limited number (10 only) of Americans as he has only had Germans and some other Europeans hunt there for the last few years.

    I'm going by myself (wife doesn't fly) but would really like to have someone else along to share the fun, as well as do some touring around the country before or after the hunting.

    If anyone is interested in this, IM or email me - I've always wanted to do this and I decided, what the hell, you only live once. And who knows what 2009 will bring, especially with political developments, the weakening dollar, etc.
     
  2. hankdatank1362

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    I'd love to, but I'm pretty sure it's outta my price range.

    Heck, I've had days where it felt like a sausage biscuit was outta my price range.
     
  3. General Geoff

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    In USD, is the trip four digits or five digits?
     
  4. Chipperman

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    You were Lucky!
    I used to dream about being able to afford a sausage biscuit.
     
  5. JohnCrighton

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    Four digits unless you go hog wild at the duty free shop - LOL.

    I make $50k a year but am pretty frugal. This will probably be the only time in my life I do this, but at the age of 41 and in great shape with a steady job and a supportive wife (who told me to do this now or I'll regret it forever) I am doing as Nike says, and just doing it! Money is fleeting, but memories are forever, and I can always make more money later.
     
  6. Leanwolf

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    JOHN CRIGHTON - "... staying at the home of a wealthy retired German doctor and his wife and staff."

    Dr. Mengele, I presume? :uhoh:


    Just kidding. Sounds as if it would be an interesting trip and hunt, but I can't make it. Hope you can find a good hunting companion.

    L.W.
     
  7. HankB

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    Will you be hunting plains game exclusively, or are any of the Big Five on the list?
     
  8. CZ-100

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    Sounds like a great trip... Hell just going to view the animals (not hunting) would be great.
     
  9. mrsig

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    I am interested, but need an idea of cost and what we would be hunting.

    - Sig
     
  10. JohnCrighton

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    Plains game. Here are some details from the booking agent:

    65,000 acre game ranch, owned by a wealthy german. Hunting is a hobby for him and he limits the total number of hunters to only 25 per year. Not much of a future for a booking agent but just great for the hunters. There is very little hunting pressure, abundance of game, and one of the best licensed Namibian PH's as resident farm manager.

    Until recently, all of the hunting clients have been European. To help me attract more American hunters, the owner is allowing me to offer 2006 rates and trophy fees. Due to the strength of the Euro, this is like getting a 35% discount off the top.

    Otjikoko has an American package that is even better. For 1 x 1 , it is a 7 day hunt @ $4,950. It is inclusive of everything, no hidden or additional charges. It includes transfers from Windhoek to the farm and return, PH, vehicles, trackers, trophy prep., hunting permits, first class board and lodging, beer and wine, daily maid and laundry service. Also included are the following: 1 bull kudu, 1 gembok, 1 impala, 1 warthog, and 1 springbok. You can delete and swap for a mountain zebra which is on an adjoining property. You will probably have to pay an additional $250 for the zebra.

    The facilities is first class with restaurant quality food. The Doctor owns three adjoining farms totalling about 170,000 acres. He has within Otjikoko, a 12,500 acre high fence game park to contain certain species like eland, waterbuck, black and blue wildebeest, giraffes, and ostrich. The rest of the species is free ranging. Eland are valuable and a 6 ft. fence will not restrain them.

    50" bull kudu is average. Since you are in good shape, you may wish to hunt on the adjoining Osera Omewa farm where the terrain is mountainous, but 55" kudu is given and must be worked for. Baboons and jackals are unlimited and free.

    For Namibia, the property is quite large. The Omaruru River runs thru it. There are nice riverines with heavily forrested and brush areas giving good attractive cover for both game and hunter. There are many natural and man made waterpoints that retain the desired game. Hunting pressure is minimal. The PH, Tommy Hall, is one of one 15 Namibian PH's licensed for all big five. He is world renowned. Tommy is also the resident farm manager.

    May and June are the best times to hunt. May is filled and the first three weeks of June is open.

    Otjikoko is one of Namibia's best kept hunting secrets.

    To take zebra, you must travel by car to an adjoining farm. It's a little over an hours drive. The trophy fee is 500 Euros. or $700-$750, subject to the exchange rate at the time you hunt. I will delete the springbok and you can pay the difference. So far, Tommy's hunters for the last two years have been 100% successful with zebras.

    Baboons and jackals are UNLIMITED and FREE.

    For every baboon you kill, the doctor's wife will also give you a kiss. She hates baboons and will go out alone to hunt them. They almost killed her dog.
    Fortunately, a very good veteranarian was able to save the dog.


    The only mandatory immunization shots is Yellow Fever for international travel. Otjikoko is in a malaria free area. Check with you physician and he will recommend additional shots like mine did. I took everything like tetanus, Hepatitis A, etc, etc. If you go up north to Etosha Nat'l Park, then malaria pills are mandatory. Malarone is preferred as it gives you less nightmares.



    Please don't look only at the low cost offered by Otjikoko. The extremely high value for price mainly lies with the PH, the facilities, the property, the abundant game, and mostly the people involved. Your hosts are extremely nice and high class. They make sure that you are the most important person during the visit. You are treated with more attention than you would receive in a 5 Star resort.

    As I indicated the owner limits to only 25 total hunters per year. I am allowed to book only 10 Americans. The other 15 are regular Europeans.
    They do not advertise. They do not WANT a website. Why, the owner has told me that he wants everything to be "perfect" for the guest hunter. I told him that in this world, nothing is perfect, and we argued that point for quite a few minutes. He's a very German, and an extremely wealthy one. He is not money motivated. He used to hunt but his age and failing health prevents him from enjoying his "backyard" to the fullest. Thus, he is happy to hear about your hunting experience and will make try to have lunch and dinner with you each day.

    We were fortunate that the farm owner had hired Tomas, a retired German chef who emmigrated to Namibia. Tomas is fabulous. His wife's family are also German bakers. Tomas made desert, "Stassburg knockle".
    (sic?) souffle filled with sweetened whipped cream. Good German beer is on tap with frosted mugs, anytime. Just walk over to the "lapa" (eating
    pavillion) and help yourself. Even your breakfast is sit-down with waitresses.


    On Otjikoko, aka MWFarms all beer and wine is included at no charge. Schnapps is also served at no charge if you indulge after dinner. The lady of the house enjoys her champagne so she will inevitably open a bottle of very fine champagne of offer you some. The doctor enjoys his scotch. So, if you also like scotch, get a bottle from duty free. The beer is terrific German beer on tap. It is made in Windhoek. You have frosted mugs in the fridge and you can help yourself anytime in the open lapa.
    Inevitably, you will be served.



    With airfare (under $2000 more than likely) and the hunt, you are looking at around $7000 - anything else is discretionary. I'm predicting when all is said and done, dip/pack paid for trophies, some sightseeing, shopping, etc. it will still be under $9000 total for two weeks.
     
  11. BobMcG

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    It sounds fantastic. Someone has to take advantage of this! I wish it was me, but not gonna happen.
     
  12. JohnCrighton

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    Yeah, I was pretty blown away by the whole deal. My wife, God bless her, told me in no uncertain terms that I HAD to do this, with her full blessing, or I would always regret it. Too bad she is deathly afraid of flying or she would go with me.

    If push comes to shove I'll do it solo, but I'd probably then not do any other touring. But I'd hate to go all that way, have a great hunt, and then not get to spend some time outside the hunting area exploring a wonderful country and its riches.

    Here are some photos the booking agent sent me from his hunt with a friend of his last year:

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  13. General Geoff

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    That's what alcohol is for. :)
     
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    Sounds like an awesome hunt. I hunted S. Africa in '95, have always regretted not being able to afford to go back, but a wife and kids does that to my bank account. Enjoy.:D
     
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    Alright, no offense. May i reiterate, no offense.

    But I would always be a bit wary of "good pricing" and internet stuff.

    Remember the old adage? Too good to be true....

    This goes on two levels I guess, John Crighton, are you sure this agent is a trustworthy person? And Mr. John Crighton, you have only recently joined and have 12 posts.


    I'm just saying, ya know?


    But that does look super fun.
     
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    elmo pretty much hit my concerns.

    That said, if I had the money, I would go for it and risk loosing the green.
     
  17. JohnCrighton

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    Understand your concerns. If you want to know why I post under this name here and elsewhere, email me.

    I realize, with anything on the internet, there are always chances one takes. I've sent $2000 before to someone that I never spoke to or met to buy a rifle - I took what precautions I could, and everything turned out fine, but there are always risks.

    I also go screwed royally by an AK gunsmith named Gary Gucciano, out of KS, operating a company called SAI (Solstice Arms). Of course, about 200 others did too, so I keep great company.

    What can I tell ya? If you are interested in doing this with me, send me an email ([email protected]) - I'll forward you contact info for the booking agent, a regular contributor on the Accurate Reloading forums, and he can put you in touch with MWF in Namibia. The licensed PH, Tommy Hall, is listed on the NAPHA website (Namibian Professional Hunters Association). He's former RSA military.
     
  18. .41 magnum man

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    DON'T DO IT! It is a trick! The good "doctor" is just trying to get unsuspecting people for experiments. Oh, you get to hunt alright, and after you take that baboon, they graft the tail on your butt! :D
     
  19. JohnCrighton

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    ROFL - like something out of South Park or The Island of Dr. Moureau, eh?

    "Honey, I have some bad news about my trip to Africa - eek eek!"
     
  20. unreal45

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    I recognize JohnCrighton from the accurate reloading forums. I would trust him if I had the cash.
     
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    What are the laws concerning taking rifles to Africa and back? Must it be of a certain caliber, style, bolt or semi? What about taking ammo? Will the landowner provide rifles and ammo or will you have to rent them?

    I'm seriously concidering a trip like this, but know nothing regarding weapons laws in Africa and would not like to spend 20 years in a Nambian jail for an honest mistake.
     
  22. JohnCrighton

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    The firearms laws in Namibia with regards to bringing rifles into the country are actually among the "loosest" on the African continent. VERY easy. All you have to do when you arrive is fill out a form, which is free, and they will check your rifle's serial number and may see your ammo - you have to have ammo for the rifle (no more than 100 rounds) that matches the caliber of the rifle. No semi-autos or full autos, no handguns.

    Here are two comments regarding this from AR:

    "When you land in WDH Windhoek, Namibia) you will be directed to the police gun check counter and you will be opening your gun case and they will check serial numbers and maybe ammunition. Then you will go claim your check in luggage. You will then go through customs and be asked if you have anything to declare. The answer should be "NO". After you pass through customs you will be met by your PH.

    Once you pass through customs you can pretty much travel anywhere within Namibia with your rifle, even if you are not yet ready to hunt. Your PH can keep your rifle for you for safekeeping while you play tourist"

    And:

    "When you arrive in Namibia, you will have to clear customs and passport control. Namibia has one of the most professional groups of people doing this in Africa. You present your passport, your declaration of stuff you are bringing in (nothing), and then go to the area just a few steps away from where your passport was checked and claim your rifle.

    They will want to see your paper work for importing the rifle which your ph sent you and you filled out, your 4457, and your passport and inspect the rifle and its serial number. They may asked to see the ammo, but they may not. Keep that paper work they give you with your passport you will need it when you leave the country.

    After you claim the rifle, you enter the airport proper. I suggest that you get matched locks for your gun case and keep one key on a string around your neck with the key to the ammo box. I tie mine on the neck string of my travel wallet."


    South Africa is actually a little more strict (paperwork, etc.)
     
  23. MCgunner

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    Well, I'd love to, but my IRA pays the bills. I don't wanna deplete it. :(

    Hell, I'm just hoping social security in 7 years will allow me to get back to New Mexico. <sigh>

    Ya know, I live frugal, always have. Made 60K a year and wife made 35. But, my goal was to get the HELL out of chemical plants before I got cancer and died before I could enjoy retirement.

    Besides, I'd have to buy a .458. LOL!
     
  24. skinewmexico

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    Boy that terrain sure looks like far west Texas. Wish I could go though......
     
  25. JohnCrighton

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    I know how you guys feel, but I just CAN'T wait any longer to go - who knows what next year will bring (locally, nationally, globally). It could all go down the crapper after the election. So I'm doing it now and not worrying about the money - I can always make more, but if the opportunity to do this while I'm in good health and there are no laws or international issues keeping me away is there, I'm doing it.
     
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