Good all-around handgun powder?

Thanks EricBu. That's something to keep in mind if I'd like to try a different powder. I use the same bullet or basically the same from T & B bullets. Thanks again.

 

Trail Boss or Unique. I've used Unique for the majority of my loads that group under 1.5 inchs at 25 yards. For light recoil loads I use Trail Boss.

 

Agree. But, unless you have some, you aren't going to find it.

 

And another question that has been asked a thousand times or more.

And for the thousandth time: Unique.

 

Shooter's World powder most like Unique is Ultimate Pistol (very close if not the same as Auto Comp), and I like it better. It burns cleaner and is more accurate in half a dozen revolvers of mine (41, 44, 45).

 

WSF will do all of those better than Unique IMHO, WSF will meter better and burn cleaner. The issue with WSF is the lack of data.

 

Power Pistol would be my first choice and will work excellent in all of those cartridges. Unique would be my second choice.

 

I use all the propellants he uses with the addition of Promo/RedDot. I use the Promo and 700X mostly with Unique being the least used for some reason.

 

Why won’t you find it? If you mean Unique, Midway has had it for at least a week and still does as of this writing and availability has been reported daily on the component availability thread.

 

He was also refering to Trail Boss, which hasn't been on shelves for some time now. You can still find Unique now and then.

 

Report was that no Trail Boss will be made in 2022.

 

This is what I've read also.

 

I can find nothing, nada, authoritative (meaning, from Hodgdon) saying anything about a halt in production of trail boss. Lots of official sounding internet speculation but nothing real.

 

There was a release... I posted it some time ago... but it was for FY 2020, I believe. I haven't seen a current listing for 2022...

Edit to add:

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/adi-news-thought-this-was-interesting.896605/

 

Bullseye/Unique Green Dot/Red Dot.

 

Thanks! If they wanted to hide this information they couldn’t have done a better job. It certainly says unlikely to release any in 2022.

 

You wouldn't know to look there... unless you knew to look there. Hidden in plain sight.

 

Same for Universal. [Post #41]

 

Well, that kind of goes back to something we talk a lot about but doesn't really sink in too deep: Hodgdon does not make powder. Not one flake, kernel, ball or grain. They are a redistributor, not a manufacturer.

According to ADI, the manufacturer of Trail Boss and quite a few other "Hodgdon" powders, "Trail Boss – This propellant is unlikely to be released in 2022 as there continues to be an active research and development project associated with its manufacturing optimisation." This would seem to imply without stating clearly that there was some pre-plandemic project which was going to delay or limit the release of Trail Boss in 2021/22 and the plandemic just got in the way of that timeline.

 

Yes that’s what ADI published for their home audience.

They also said this about Universal (AP70N) back in 2019:

“While we cannot currently provide a specific date that an AP70N comparable powder will be available, we expect this to be available a bit later this year and called APS650.”

 

Not on OPs topic at all (is he even here anymore?) but this hobby of ours is really a house of cards, built on sand, weak links everywhere. Pick a metaphor but it’s a contingency planners nightmare.

 

I think they are trying to reformulate these powders so that manufacturing is less expensive, and/or more 'green.' Take IMR's Enduron rifle powders... they turned out to not be All That and a bag of chips, and now they've been pulled from the market.

TrailBossy is an odd powder... specifically bulky for a reason, it certainly requires a special process... I'll bet it's an expensive powder to make. ADI's statement about 'manufacturing optimization' sounds like a fancy way of saying 'it costs too much to produce, but we're trying to find a way to manufacture it cheaper.'

 

I had a similar question a month or two ago and the general consensus was unique or HP38.

Im curious why nobody ever recommends autocomp. I see it available all the time (that’s a red flag). No experience with it tho.

 

I just went and found it. One lb. bottles only, $37 + $20 Haz Mat fee. I couldn’t do it.

I went to my local gun shop and range, did some shooting, and bought a bottle of WSP for $34 instead. It was the only powder they had that could be used in pistols, but I’ve heard good things about it.

 

What is WSP powder?