Good CCW news from Orange County, California: Bill Hunt promises shall-issue

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From Hunt's reform plan;
http://www.billhuntforsheriff.com/showArticle2.asp?title=905
I will issue concealed weapons permits (CCW) to any applicant who is a law abiding resident of the county, meets state mandated requirements and is not prohibited by law from possessing a firearm.
We can hope that if he gets elected, and does go "shall issue", the O.C. crime rate will drop, and LA's crime rate should rise. After all why be a crook in an area you can get shot when a few miles down the road you are not likely to.
 
So what's going on down there - I just looked online, and I can't even find any news about who won - it's been 30hrs since the polls closed, and there isn't even anything in teh OC Register's website.

What's the poop?
 
and the only fresh story on teh election down there closes with this:

"Despite all the effort to inspire voters, turnout was 19 percent. Absentee ballots accounted for 74 percent of all votes. "

Dang that's pathetic.

My own area, Santa Clarita Valley only has a turnout of 13%. onyl 10,000 cits out of 80k registered, out of some 275k residents of all ages. And the 3 winners out of 11 candidates for the council garnered around ~5k votes each (you vote for your favorite three). So only 7% of the 60% who bothered to even register - roughly 4% of the adults - picked who runs my region. :banghead:
 
Yeah the sheriffs' election is June 6.

And the lower the turnout, the more powerful / important each voter (that means you) is.

A recent article about the LA Sheriff's election:

http://www.lacitybeat.com/article.php?id=3429&IssueNum=145

another problem is Baca’s “early-release” (sometimes derisively known as “catch-and-release”) program whereby some prisoners serve as little as three days on a 90-day sentence, supposedly due to a lack of money or staffing for proper incarceration. Beyond undermining the deterrence attributed to prison by lessening punishments, the early-release program also culls the prison population to its most violent, sending lesser criminals out to make room for more dangerous convictions, leaving the county’s prison population comprised of approximately 91 percent felons.
 
“Catch-and-release”! That’s classic! :D

Now, I see that Mayor Villaraigosa wants to charge Angelinos more for trash pickup in order to “put more cops on the street,” and L.A. wants to float more bonds to fill in potholes. Idiots!

~G. Fink
 
Uh … the sheriff elections are in June. :scrutiny:



No squint-eye BS is required. It was a simple mistake. My portion of L.A. had their municipal elections two days ago. I mistakenly thought OC's would be on the same cycle. No dramatic :scrutiny: required.
 
No offense intended, my fellow Californian. The scrutiny was for my own benefit, as I was afraid I might have misunderstood your question. However, Sheriff Baca in L.A. still doesn’t face re-election until June, if I’m not mistaken. Am I?

~G. Fink
 
A Sheriff with Character

Glad to see Lieutenant Bill Hunt, candidate for Sheriff, made it to this web site. His views and intentions regarding CCWs is indicative of how this man thinks and operates.

Guns, other rights, freedom and quality service from public servants is something we all should expect, not just Carona's elite few. Bill is a proven leader who understands why Law Enforcement cannot themselves be above the law.

He has gained termendous momentum and appears to be likely to give Carona a run for his money and may just beat him. Good for him and good for us if he pulls it off.
 
Sheriff Baca is not under consideration in O.C.
Primary Elections are June 6.
General Election is November 7.

http://www.oc.ca.gov/election/

There is 4 candidates for O.C. sheriff.

ROBERT G. "BOB" ALCARAZ
Candidate Statement

MICHAEL S. CARONA
Candidate Statement

BILL HUNT
Candidate Statement

RALPH W. MARTIN
Candidate Statement

We need to get Bill Hunt to win in the primary elections before we worry about getting him elected. If a candidate gets over 50% of the votes in the primary election they win the election without a runoff.
 
I live in OC. I am interested in obtaining a CCW, but I have been discouraged because my only cause statement would be "I'm an avid shooter". Does anyone know anyone who passed with this cause statement in OC?
 
I live in OC. I am interested in obtaining a CCW, but I have been discouraged because my only cause statement would be "I'm an avid shooter". Does anyone know anyone who passed with this cause statement in OC?

This is an accepted reason, but you have to back it up with documentation. Receipts, club memberships and letters from the range will be requested.

I have even heard of Orange Courty requesting written permission from your employer if you say you intend to CCW during the scope of your employment.
 
"have even heard of Orange Courty requesting written permission from your employer if you say you intend to CCW during the scope of your employment"

That is rediculous. Forget that. :cuss:
 
BTT! Mods could we have a STICKY thread for the SoCal sheriffs' races? This is just as big a fight as CCW in Wisonsin and any other state really.

Edited: Thank you mods! I'm going to put together a brief SoCal Sheriffs' Election Guide piece, covering all the races here. When I get that we might want to unsticky this thread and replace it with the election guide.
 
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Skunk: You have a very good chance. Go for it. Ask some people in OC about how to write a cause statement.

Wild Bill: By default, a California permit is valid throughout the state. Sheriffs do have the option of writing restrictions on the permit, but this is not normally done, and I haven't heard of it happening in OC.
 
Hey Skunk, there's dude over on packing.org who claims to have a lot of experience crafting cause statements for folks in CA, and he has offered to help any one who sends him a PM. He goes by cluseau, but signs off as Billy Jack. I don;t know how legit he is, but it might be worth looking into. There is a lot of info on the links and forums over there. Some of it needs a little sifting is all. I submitted an OC CCW app on 3/31. I used the "avid shooter" statement, but I have a range membership and a letter from an assistant manager there to back me up. You also need at least two character reference letters, proof of lawful US residency (birth certificate), a utility bill, A CA driver's license. There are some other things if you are retired LE or military. But it's free to apply. Nothing to lose. The fees come later. Anyway, if I don't hear from them by Monday, I'm going to give them a call and ask about the status. Fingers crossed.
 
There's a whole new site completely dedicated to county-by-county info in California:

http://CaliforniaCCW.org

It's all about sheriffs, sheriffs' elections, policies, etc. It just launched today so there's not a lot of info yet, so please get on there and post your county-specific information and advocacy.

To put it simply, CaliforniaCCW.org is about achieving CCW in California one county at a time, one sheriff at a time, one police chief at a time. That is how we are going to win.
 
An expansion of 2A rights in California. That would be a dream come true even in one county.


I hope you guys are ready for a fight the socialists will throw everything at this.

Shall Issue in Cali.


It would be like standing in Beijing with a sign saying "Hu's an A-Pipe"
 
An expansion of 2A rights in California. That would be a dream come true even in one county.


I hope you guys are ready for a fight the socialists will throw everything at this.

Shall Issue in Cali.

It's not a dream, it's a reality. California already IS shall-issue. We just have to force the issue in courts, and by electing the right sheriffs and getting the right police chiefs.

What do I mean by saying that California is shall-issue? Well, there are a whole bunch of permits that are discretionary. The city can refuse to give you a building permit. The DMV can refuse to give you a drivers license. But if the city just said one day, "sorry, we're not giving out building permits anymore" or "you need to make a huge contribution if you want a building permit", that would not fly. Yes they have discretion but it cannot be used in that way.

We need to put some fear into sheriffs and chiefs. A lot of police chiefs have what is called a "dual policy", where they issue a few permits (to city councilmen, etc) but then they tell everyone else "ask the sheriff". That's illegal. They need to be sued for this kind of thing.

With enough suits, enough information getting out, and voting for sheriffs, CA WILL become shall-issue in practice. This can happen WITHOUT any legislative changes.

So, if you're in CA please click on the link in my sig and join the fight. We're on the winning side.
 
El T G

Cmon man It is still an expansion of 2A rights(I never said you didn't have any). This guy (if he isn't lying) is going to make it easier to get CCW permits.
 
will issue concealed weapons permits (CCW) to any applicant who is a law abiding resident of the county, meets state mandated requirements and is not prohibited by law from possessing a firearm

Hate to break it to everybody but the statement above from Hunt is the same policy that Mike Carona is using. The key phrase is "meets state mandated requirements" One of the State mandated requirements is to demonstrate Good Cause. I would say we are better off with Carona since we already know he does issue.
 
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