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Good first .22

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Sinixstar, Nov 9, 2008.

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  1. Sinixstar

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    My girlfriend recently mentioned that she'd like to learn how to shoot. I learned many years ago, but unfortunately no longer own any weapons of any kind.
    I'm looking for a solid, cheap .22 to teach her on. Have been doing some research - and the Remington Model 5 seemed to fit the bill pretty nicely.
    Looking for bolt action, preferably no plastic/cheap parts (rules out the winchester wildcat in my opinion), and again - cheap. (Which rules out many of the rifles i would prefer to buy - savage, cz, kimber, etc).


    thanks!
     
  2. BADUNAME37

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    A chipmunk?

    They are a cute little gun. Any other bolt action (I think Marlin makes one).
     
  3. Sinixstar

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    chipmunk's - those are the little tiny single-shot rifles? I think from Rogue? Looked at those - wanted something slightly higher up the food chain than that.
    As for marlin - something about marlin's never "felt" right to me. Can't really explain it. I did have one of the old wood/blue papoose .22 semi's that was a lot of fun - but that was about as far as I went with them.
     
  4. BADUNAME37

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    Whatever.
     
  5. Sinixstar

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    lol - touche

    I'm sure there is a middle of the road between $100, and $1200 - no?

    more specifically - and i realize i left this question out of my original post - i was hoping perhaps someone had some experience with the remington, and could provide some insight.
     
  6. Sinixstar

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    odd - don't know how the double-post happened, sorry bout that.
     
  7. BADUNAME37

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    My thought was she might like it so much, she may want to "graduate" to a centerfire rifle (.222, .223, .243, etc).
    If that happens, you will have a 22 that you might hardly ever use.:rolleyes:

    As for help with the Remington, sorry I can't help you on that.
     
  8. woof

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    I'd look at the bottom end of the Savage Mark II line, the F model. You might find one of the older ones without the accutrigger for about 120, the new ones are still well under 200. They are well made and tack drivers. Yes, they have a synthetic stock but are high quality throughout.
     
  9. Sinixstar

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    That's hopefully the eventual plan.
    The thing is, she's never so much as seen a gun in person. Before moving to NV - she was rabidly anti-gun (we lived in NYC where they serve very little purpose). Since moving out here, she's interested, but not to the point of being commited yet. This is more of an introduction than anything else.

    My plan was - get a cheap/easy .22, teach her on that. Shortly after get myself a .223 or .243 (if we're gonna shoot together, i need something too, right?). She graduates up to that rifle, at which time I can get myself something new... and the cycle continues. :)

    I didn't want to go too low on the scale, because i do enjoy shooting .22s quite a bit. If she decides maybe this whole "gun thing" isn't for her, i didn't want to be stuck with something that was entirely for her, that i'm not happy with.
    Didn't want to go too high on the scale, because really a gun isn't exactly a top priority budget wise. Why create an issue needlessly?
     
  10. Sinixstar

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    I've never been a big fan of synthetic stocks, but for that price it's certainly worth a look. Thanks!
     
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    get a cheep fun to shoot 702 Mossberg.$100 at walmart.I got a used one in spring to try to get my wife into shooting.She never shot a gun and loved plinking with it.last Sunday i went with her and she got %100 on her hunter safety course for a hunting in NY.I just started looking for a nice 243 for deer season next year for her.my 2 cents is get a cheep 22 semi auto for getting her into shooting and spend the real cash on center-fire
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  12. Sinixstar

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    Yea, i've been on the fence between bolt action and semi-auto. I personally always had more fun with semi-auto, but i'm into guns - she's not. I thought bolt action might seem a little less.... "threatening" - without going down to the single-shot realm.

    In case you haven't noticed, i've been wrestling with this a bit....
     
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    In my opinion first time shooters should start out with rifles that are safe and easy to operate.

    Bolt rifles are usually the safest as the action can be left open and even repeaters can be operated single shot.

    The semi's are hard to operate single shot, which makes them harder to teach.

    Accidental or negligent discharges can happen with both but the semi's are better left ,for later!

    Eye and hearing protection are a must even the .22 rimfire can cause hearing problems. down the road.
     
  14. Sinixstar

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    Obviously safety is always a concern, but the easy to operate was more why i was leaning bolt action. Bolt actions seem to be easier to understand for a lot of people, because you can actually see what's going on. I don't want to just teach her how to shoot, i want her to actually understand...
     
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    Here's the way it works. You don't worry about what you think or what I think, you worry about what SHE thinks. Take her to a gunstore, or a gun show and let her see, and handle various models until SHE finds the one SHE wants. A range that has guns for rent or try is even better.

    Unless your girlfriend is five years old, I don't think a Chipmunk will cut it. A Remington model 5 might be too big. A 10/22 might be just perfect. You might hate 10/22's. That's not important if SHE likes it.

    Don't worry that she'll outgrow it. You never outgrow a 22.
     
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    Sinixstar, OK face reality. You started out saying you wanted a "cheap" .22 but now, from just talking about it, you're hooked and you know perfectly well you want something better! So don't fight it. Make a sacrifice somewhere else and get something from the CZ line. 452 American if you want a scope from the start, one of the iron sight models if not. Best place to buy is whittakerguns.com. Go do that and come back and tell us how it shoots. Start out with Federal Champion 510 from Walmart, the CZs are certainly worthy of match grade ammo later.
     
  17. Sinixstar

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    Cajun - i agree with you in theory - slight problem though.

    Girlfriend = grew up in NYC and until not all that long ago (moving to rural nevada) thought all guns should be banned, except for swat teams.

    Taking her to a gun store to "try a few things on" isn't going to go over well. Trust me on this. :)

    This is also why i'm being very careful on the subject.

    The "might be too big" comment is most helpful though.
     
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    In that case, just about any 22 will do for an introduction. If you don't have one, borrow one. Whatever you can get. A 10/22 or a Remington Nylon 66 would be about perfect if you can find one. The idea is to make it fun. Get a box of skeet targets and head out someplace where you can set them up, not too far away and let her blast them into little pieces.

    Once you get her hooked on the idea of shooting at all, THEN you can worry about getting her to help you find the right gun for HER.
     
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    the remmy 5 is more money than you think; you can get a marlin or savage, wood stock, for half that price, and you can get a cz, with a set trigger, for about 300 bucks. all will be better than the remmy, and the marlin and savage will have readily available, and cheaper mags, than the remmy or the cz for that matter.
     
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    One that holds less than 10 rounds in the magazine, has no pistol grip (you don't want her firing from the hip), no bayonet lug, no flash hider, has fewer than 10 imported parts, was manufactured before 1986, has a $200 tax stamp associated with it, and is only used for deer hunting.

    And don't you DARE thread that barrel. Or carry it around. Or store it assembled and unlocked.

    Or own it in the first place.
     
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    what about an NEF. Single shot, light, accurate, well built. Inexpensive.

    But Savage, Marlin, Charles Daly, Mossberg and NEF are going to be your lower cost good quality rifles.

    And plastic does NOT equal cheap.
     
  22. BADUNAME37

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    Why not try to keep the money in this country and purchase US Made (if there is such a thing any more).:rolleyes:
     
  23. Leadhead

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    I wouldn't rule out the(Russian) wildcat.....I bought a Toz 78 (same gun but a little rougher) and it's nice and light and shoots great!

    Can't go wrong with CZ either.
     
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    Where can you get a CZ with set trigger for $300?
     
  25. bob kk

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    A CZ scout would be a good first gun. Light and accurate. Safer than a semi auto. They have fairly good sights and you can scope it later. Magazines cost about thirty dollars not cheap but they are built to last.
     
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