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Good guys One, Mugger ZERO!

Discussion in 'Strategies, Tactics and Training' started by ZeSpectre, Jul 3, 2007.

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  1. ZeSpectre

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    Apparently I just couldn't get out of DC without one more incident.

    I'd left work and was headed down to the metro when I hear this female voice yell "Help, help me". I look up to see this big guy right up in this tiny young woman's face about 50 yards up the sidewalk. She's trying to pull away and he's gripping her arm and forcing her up close to him. Now I'm wondering to myself if this is a lovers spat or what but the "signals" are just all wrong for that.

    So the woman finally pulls away and I can see her arm is in a sling. She tries to step into a nearby building (a bank) and he blocks her and tries to grab her injured arm again. The woman dodges the other way and he goes for her again. By now a few other bystanders have started closing in and the woman again yells for help. The big dude suddenly steps back and starts walking away down the sidewalk.

    I finally get close and ask what happened only to be told that the guy had just mugged the girl as she came out of the bank. There are plenty of other bystanders nearby to watch out for her so I tell them "STAY HERE and call the police, I'll track him" and get out my phone and call 911 as I start following the guy.

    So (thank God for good training and experience) I'm able to shadow this guy from a 20-30 yard distance for about 3 blocks without him knowing I'm there when he finally ducks into a shoe store. Meanwhile I'm on the phone giving description and location. FINALLY a cruiser arrives just as the guy is walking out of the store (having doffed his ballcap, untucked his shirt, generally attempted to alter his appearance) and I'm able to let the cops know it's -that guy right there-.

    They move to arrest him, he's calm until the first cuff goes on and then OH BOY does he start fighting. Backup arrives and they unceremoniously stuff him into a paddy wagon. I give my statements and I'm free to go on my way (with a nice thanks from the police for being an excellent witness).

    You know what, even if I had been able to CCW in DC this incident would have gone down exactly the same way. This was definitely a NON firearms situation.


    Okay you think this is quite a story? Here's the REAL punchline. A couple of hours after I get home I receive a phone call from the detective handling the case. Less than an hour before this incident the same guy had attempted an abduction by force of another woman less than a block away. The other woman was able to positively ID the criminal and any possibility of bail was thrown out the window. They also think he might be their perp for at least TWO MORE forcible abductions! :eek:

    The detective in charge said he wants to put me up for a citizens award of some sort for my involvement in this case. :what: Wow, and I was just glad to get this creep off the street!
     
  2. Alphazulu6

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    Great job but.......... paddy wagon? LOL HAHAHAHAH Have not heard that term used in years!

    Keep up the good work and hopefully you will get your medal :D
     
  3. ZeSpectre

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    Yeah, I guess I just dated myself didn't I. Should have just said "the wagon" as they call it now. :)
     
  4. eagle45

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    ZeSpectre -

    Best story I've read in awhile. I think the citizen's award would be great, but the memory of how it happened and the knowledge that you did the right thing are worth a lot more. Congrats on a job well done.
     
  5. Titan6

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    Quick thinking and a job well done. I bet you are oh-so glad to see DC in your rear view mirror. I saw four muggings in the four years we lived in PG county when I was a youth. There simply is not enough money to pay me to live there again.
     
  6. tinygnat219

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    Zespectre,

    Good job!
     
  7. Biker

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    Way ta be, Z!

    Biker:)
     
  8. lacoochee

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    Great job ZeSpectre. You are right it would not have been the right situation for using a concealed firearms but pepper spray in the hand of either victim would have resulted in completely different outcomes. Unfortunately, the city on the hill (under the hill? heel? whatever) does not allow it's citizens to carry pepper spray...

    Glad you are getting to leave. I grew up there yet I never feel the urge to return, in fact saying the word to return made me throw in my mouth a little. :barf:
     
  9. Iggy

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    Great job, BUT!!!

    They will probably invite you back to receive the award!!!!:D
     
  10. ZeSpectre

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    Oh :banghead: I never even thought of that!
     
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  11. Old NFO

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    Nice job Z! And people wonder why I won't take a job or live in the District...:fire: This happens WAY too often in DC.
     
  12. MrPeter

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    I applaud your efforts! You should sleep well tonight.

    I need to get me some of that "shadowing" training you talked about. That could come in handy... :)
     
  13. ZeSpectre

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    Just a quick update for those intereted. Got a call from the U.S. Attorney's office. They want me to come in and testify because apparently they have connected him to several more felony assaults and at least one rape (possibly two).

    Wow, this guy was a full blown, bona-fide MONSTER!
     
  14. gunsmith

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    Well Lad, Ye know where that phrase comes from, don't ye?

    Why are ye trying to start a Donnybrook?:neener:

    Good on ya Z!
     
  15. Eyesac

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    Job well done!
     
  16. cassandrasdaddy

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    nice work that kinda involvement is rare in babylon on the potomac
     
  17. Zundfolge

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    so I wonder if you could work in something pro CCW into your acceptance speech.
     
  18. ZeSpectre

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    he, I doubt there'd be a speech but now you have me wondering.
     
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    This thread makes me feel bad for not having a cell phone to do the same thing. I'd have to commandeer one to accomplish this or just knock the SOB out cold. Both can be arranged.



    Pagan Wolf Power!
     
  20. Black Adder LXX

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    Nicely done... You should be proud.
     
  21. nitestocker

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    you deserve the Madel or citizen award most people are afraid to get involved and thank you and GOD bless you.
     
  22. pax

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    Kudos, sir.

    pax
     
  23. opd743

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    ZeSpectre, I am a cop and I wish more people would do what you did. It took guts to follow him and keep police informed. I wish we had more people like you out there helping us.

    lacoochee, pepper spray is never as good as people think. I have sprayed people and they just wipe it off and keep on coming. I took it off my duty belt when we got Tasers as a matter of fact. Now I just keep it in the car for mean dogs.
     
  24. FieroCDSP

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    Great job, Ze! Do what you can to help get this monster of the street. With any luck, the jury will put this guy behind bars where he belongs. This really does illustrate a need for defensive arms. Had any of the previous victims been armed, there wouldn't have been victims to follow.

    Keep fighting the good fight.
     
  25. Geno

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    Good man!
     
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