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Good Job VCDL!!!

Discussion in 'Legal' started by XLMiguel, Sep 18, 2004.

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  1. XLMiguel

    XLMiguel Member

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    Great news for VA CHP holders from VCDL!! Fantastic news on MWAA and the Restaurant
    Ban! Both of these are major items that happened in rapid succession in a Loudoun courthouse:

    1. Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority (MWAA) loses in court!

    This was a case where a concealed handgun permit holder, Gary Alves, was charged with carrying a knife (a utility knife used in his employment) in a Dulles parking lot after July 1, when the new Virginia airport weapons
    law (18.2-287.01) came into effect. Judge Worcester ruled on Wednesday
    that MWAA's weapons laws are now totally preempted by the new Virginia
    law! Mr. Alves' charges were dismissed because the only place you can't
    carry a knife on airport property in Virginia, as of July 1, is in the
    secure areas and the terminal.

    VCDL, as you know, has been taking this position all along.
    This sends a huge message to MWAA: drop all your regulations, as VCDL has asked, and let state and federal laws apply. If MWAA doesn't do that any conflicting regulation they put in place (like banning weapons in
    non-terminal buildings that open onto the runway) would be preempted and are invalid and unenforceable.

    Will MWAA now do the right thing? We will see, but this is huge.

    2. Both a Loudoun judge and a Loudoun prosecutor agree that the
    Restaurant Ban is INVALID!!!

    The Loudoun Commonwealth's Attorney halfheartedly supports Delegate
    Black's position that 18.2-308 J3, which prohibits concealed carry of
    handguns in restaurants that serve alcohol, is not valid and is not
    enforceable! Better yet, Judge Worcester wholeheartedly supports that
    position!

    The prosecutor dropped the charges against Dr. Thorston Hisam, a concealed handgun permit holder, in court this morning, with Judge Worcester noting the law's invalidity. Charges were originally brought against Dr. Hisam when an undercover police officer claimed to have seen Dr. Hisam carrying a concealed handgun in a Loudoun restaurant (and how exactly do you see a concealed handgun?). Six MONTHS later they RAIDED Dr. Hisam's house using the charge of violating J3 as the reason for the raid! There was a dawn RAID by 14 police officers for carrying a concealed handgun in a restaurant six months after the supposed violation? All charges have now been dismissed in a case that looks and smells like a failed vendetta against Dr. Hisam.

    What does this mean?

    According to a Virginia judge, the restaurant ban is not valid and is not
    enforceable. It is VCDL's opinion that J3 needs to be dropped!

    Does this mean you can now legally carry concealed in restaurants that
    serve alcohol? Not yet. It is important that we all be patient for a
    little longer.

    Don't forget that the Attorney General is looking into this very matter
    right now. Hopefully he will agree with Delegate Black and the Loudoun
    Commonwealth's Attorney and another nail will be hammered into the
    Restaurant Ban's coffin!

    :D
     
  2. AZRickD

    AZRickD Member

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    They are good, aren't they?

    Rick
     
  3. Cool Hand Luke 22:36

    Cool Hand Luke 22:36 member

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    The membership dues I pay to the VCDL every year is money very well spent.

    The death of the resturant ban is very welcome.
     
  4. Cacique500

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    +1
     
  5. captain obvious

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    That's great - no longer can MWAA try to pull me over on Rt. 28 because I have rifle cases in my car.

    VCDL is great!
     
  6. countertop

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    VCDL is great.

    Before you buy your next gun, consider spending the money on a donation to them, Dick Black, and Ken Cuccinelli (as well as the NRA and GOA)

    it will ensure your ability to buy many more guns in the future
     
  7. Can'thavenuthingood

    Can'thavenuthingood Member

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    Arrested after six months from the date of supposed infraction?

    And a early morning raid on his residence at that?

    Did the good Dr. Hisam get his attorney fees paid for by some entity other than his own pocket?

    How long was the actual case in work before being dimissed?

    Are there any charges pending against the "raiders"?

    Incredible.

    Vick
     
  8. Spot77

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    I cant wait until MCDL (Maryland) becomes as effective as VCDL.


    Congrats on the victories.
     
  9. spartacus2002

    spartacus2002 Member

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    I signed up several people as new VCDL members at a recent gun show in VA. It's only $15 to become a member, and VCDL won't ask you for money again until renewal time.
     
  10. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

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    Every state needs a V.C.D.L.
     
  11. Titus

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    But feel free to send more! Those guys are on the job!
     
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