Good reason to carry some less than lethal shells in the field while bird hunting?

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"it's comin right for us!!"

seriously though, if he's flying low and in my direction, I would percieve it as an attack, and a potentially deadly one at that, especially if it happend more than once. I think the bear spray idea would be an excellent deterrant to this kind of stupidity, or maybe a flamethrower aimed at the chute...:D
 
Giant dose of pepper spray to the face of that guy sounds hilarious to me. I wonder if you could buy an uber-powerful pepperspray that shot out like 15 feet like a flamethrower? Like to see him continue to fly after that. And hey, it was self-defense - as you said:

"it's comin right for us!!"
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Ha ha! :D
 
wonder if you could buy an uber-powerful pepperspray that shot out like 15 feet like a flamethrower?
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hunter harressment is a mere misdameanor, maybe some probation with a fine

interfering/harrassing federally regulated game birds is something that normally falls into the 6-12 months of jail time, federal stuff you know.

ultralight aircraft are registered by the faa. you need to have a pilots liscence with correct endorsement for ultralight/experimental aircraft.
I went through an aircraft phase and discovered that to fly ultralights, sail plans, and powered parachutes you need to have a pilots liscence with special endorsements. Otherwise you go to jail if caught.
Sadly enough, a person would need to spend 30 thou at the local college to get a pilots liscence, and then another 10 thou for the endorsement to fly a sail plane in order to merely wiggle the control stick of a sail plane when its off the ground.
 
Sadly enough, a person would need to spend 30 thou at the local college to get a pilots liscence, and then another 10 thou for the endorsement to fly a sail plane in order to merely wiggle the control stick of a sail plane when its off the ground.
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Absolutely and totally incorrect. You do not need to go to a local college to get a pilots license and a private license is under $10,000 much less 30K A sail plane "endorsement" Is, depending on where you do it around $3,000.

However to fly a powered parachute as per FAR 61.313 you are required to posses a sport pilot certificate with a Powered parachute endorsement which requires 12 hours flight time with 2 hours solo and 10 hours instruction. So yes these guys are required to have a license and yes they are operating an aircraft in a dangerous and reckless manner which is a grounds for violation up to and including certificate revocation. I will be sending these links to my local FAA FSDO office.

FAR(Federal Aviation Regulations) 91.13 is quite clear on this subject here it verbatim.

'Sec. 91.13 - Careless or reckless operation.

(a) Aircraft operations for the purpose of air navigation. No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another.

(b) Aircraft operations other than for the purpose of air navigation. No person may operate an aircraft, other than for the purpose of air navigation, on any part of the surface of an airport used by aircraft for air commerce (including areas used by those aircraft for receiving or discharging persons or cargo), in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another.'
 
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§ 103.7 Certification and registration.
(a) Notwithstanding any other section pertaining to certification of aircraft or their parts or equipment, ultralight vehicles and their component parts and equipment are not required to meet the airworthiness certification standards specified for aircraft or to have certificates of airworthiness.

(b) Notwithstanding any other section pertaining to airman certification, operators of ultralight vehicles are not required to meet any aeronautical knowledge, age, or experience requirements to operate those vehicles or to have airman or medical certificates.
(c) Notwithstanding any other section pertaining to registration and marking of aircraft, ultralight vehicles are not required to be registered or to bear markings of any type.
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Right out of the federal aviation regulations. By the way,my license cost $10,000,and knowing some things I know now,it could have been a lot less.
 
However to fly a powered parachute as per FAR 61.313 you are required to posses a sport pilot certificate with a Powered parachute endorsement which requires 12 hours flight time with 2 hours solo and 10 hours instruction. So yes these guys are required to have a license and yes they are operating an aircraft in a dangerous and reckless manner which is a grounds for violation up to and including certificate revocation. I will be sending these links to my local FAA FSDO office
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I think that the LS certificate would only be needed if carrying more then one person,or the aircraft weighs more then 254 lbs empty.Otherwise,its a ultra light,and 103.7 app
 
Jim,

I think you're right about the single seat PP going under 254LBS the twin seat ones do require a license.

However FAR part 103 is quite clear on the the operation of an ultralight in dangerous manner.

"Subpart B-Operating Rules
103.9 Hazardous operations.

(a) No person may operate any ultralight vehicle in a manner that creates a hazard to other persons or property.

(b) No person may allow an object to be dropped from an ultralight vehicle if such action creates a hazard to other persons or property. "

I've been an active CFII-MEI for 22 years and I will not go anywhere near these things or will I consider doing sport pilot certs. It is simply to much liability.
 
He may not have a certificate to pull but I wish a smart prosecutor could figure a way to confiscate the machine. I would think using something in a menacing manner would be grounds for seizure.
 
I bet they own leather products and consume factory processed meat and cheese.....
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I doubt this. Mostly these are vegans, and they are pretty careful about not consuming animal products, including medicines (although they hypocritically may not reject medicine discovered or tested on animals).

Their belief is that all animals have equal rights, and that it is wrong to cause or increase the suffering of another animal. By "animal," they mean the ones that have a central nervous system (CNS) (thus by their reasoning it's okay to kill jellyfish with your outboard motor, but not okay to kill manatees). It's this line of reasoning where you can expose their hypocrisy. Insects have a CNS. Ask them how many bugs they've killed with the grill or windshield of their car this week (or sucked into and chopped up by the propeller of that ultralight). Ask them how many annelids or rodents or birds were killed or injured by the construction of the house in which they live, or by the planting of the crops that they eat. You won't trip up a well-read vegan/animal rights activist with most arguments, but this is one area that you always will. Confronted with these facts, every vegan/animal rights advocate I've spoken to has stammered or muttered some half-baked excuse about not really trying to stop animal suffering, but reduce the level of it (how does one measure that and where should that level be?), or simply had no answer at all. They condemn your hobbies and lifestyle while making exceptions for the conveniences of modern living that they are not willing to give up themselves.

Of course, pointing out their hypocrisy doesn't invalidate their argument - it simply shows that they are hypocrites. To invalidate the argument, you could argue that only humans have rights. For example, say that rights come about as a tacit agreement between people - you don't hurt me, I won't hurt you, and if you hurt me, then you have no claim to demand that I continue respecting your wish not to be hurt - and such agreements cannot be made between humans and other animals. But do some reading and know the subject well before getting into that. It's a complicated subject, but you can bet that the strict vegan with whom you're arguing will be educated on the subject. ;)

But I wouldn't shoot that ultralight flyer unless you genuinely believed yourself to be in danger of grave bodily harm. It'd be wiser to bust them on trespassing charges... maybe attempted assault or reckless endangerment. But, IANAL.
 
ultralight aircraft are registered by the faa. you need to have a pilots liscence with correct endorsement for ultralight/experimental aircraft.
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Not true at all.

Regulation of ultralight aircraft in the United States is covered by the Code of Federal Regulations Title 14 (Federal Aviation Regulations) Part 103 or 14 CFR Part 103, which defines an "ultralight" as a vehicle that:
* Is used or intended to be used for manned operation in the air by a single occupant;
* Is used or intended to be used for recreation or sport purposes only;
* Does not have any U.S. or foreign airworthiness certificate; and
* If unpowered, weighs less than 155 pounds; or
* If powered:
*# Weighs less than 254 pounds (115 kg) empty weight, excluding floats and safety devices which are intended for deployment in a potentially catastrophic situation;
*# Has a fuel capacity not exceeding 5 U.S. gallons (19 L);
*# Is not capable of more than 55 knots (102 km/h) calibrated airspeed at full power in level flight; and
*# Has a power-off stall speed which does not exceed 24 knots (45 km/h) calibrated airspeed.
Certification
* Notwithstanding any other section pertaining to certification of aircraft or their parts or equipment, ultralight vehicles and their component parts and equipment are not required to meet the airworthiness certification standards specified for aircraft or to have certificates of airworthiness.
* Notwithstanding any other section pertaining to airman certification, operators of ultralight vehicles are not required to meet any aeronautical knowledge, age, or experience requirements to operate those vehicles or to have airman or medical certificates.
* Notwithstanding any other section pertaining to registration and marking of aircraft, ultralight vehicles are not required to be registered or to bear markings of any type.
Operations
* No person may operate an ultralight vehicle except between the hours of sunrise and sunset.
* Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this section, ultralight vehicles may be operated during the twilight periods 30 minutes before official sunrise and 30 minutes after official sunset or, in Alaska, during the period of civil twilight as defined in the Air Almanac, if:
*# The vehicle is equipped with an operating anticollision light visible for at least 3 statute miles; and
*# All operations are conducted in uncontrolled airspace.

No person may operate an ultralight vehicle over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons.

Weight allowances can be made for two-seat trainers, amphibious landing gear, and ballistic parachute systems.

In the United States no license or training is required by law for ultralights, but training is highly advisable.
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Whatcha do if some doofus harasses you in his ultralight is do a wind dance. Ever see one at wide open throttle, going downwind whether he wants to or not? We had a bit of wind come up during an ultralight's maiden voyage. 30 mph plane in a 40 mph headwind to get back to the strip. He set down okay after running out of gas, but it was a long walk home.
 
I read a lot about UL's with interest 20 years ago, never bought one, though. I'm not suicidal even though I have done some crazy things with motorcycles in my life. But, from what I've read, you should stay on the ground if the wind gets 15 mph and it's windy as hell most of the time down here, so I really don't know if you could get a lot of air time in one in this area. I've seen a few fly over, though, on the calm days. They sure look like fun and it's the only way my broke butt would ever fly other than on a Southwest flight or something.
 
That made me so mad I wanted to scream. Kudo's to the hunter, I don't know if I could have handled that as well as he did.
 
I wouldnt of been able to hold myself back I would of maced him and or shot at his parachute when he flew so low.. This kind of thing pisses me off.. makes me wanna go out to that field in season and video me blasting birds all day. Mail that to the prick..

They are the west burrough baptist church of peta.
 
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