Goodbye DPMS & Bushmaster... Hello Colt

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I own an RRA, Spikes and Colt.

I don't see, feel or experience the Colt difference. Actually, the RRA is the best shooter and all of them are uber reliable. Three gunned and have participated in a class with each and I still see no reason for the Colt fanboism. Besides saying you have the Colt.

The biggest issues I see with the DPMS and Bushies are that their shooters are also shooting subpar ammo and mags.
 
There is nothing wrong dumping something or somethings for something else you want. I dumped my Bushmaster to build on a Colt platform. I dumped three firearms to build a Sako TRG-22 package. I have no regrets.
 
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Actually IDC what brand it is

I cant stand bushmaster or dpms they charge way more than their rifles are worth because people are stupid enough to pay it
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It sounds to me like you care what brand it is. Your friends must think you're a loser with your non-COLT POS beater truck gun AR15. I'm sorry, I can't stand all this bash this rifle because it's cheaper mentality. DPMS and Bushmaster wouldn't be around if their quality control, materials, parts, and assembly weren't up to snuff. Is a COLT rifle really worth the $1000 compared to an equivalent non-COLT rifle for $600-$800? Oh, it isn't because it doesn't have a pony on the side of the receiver. I bet money that my DPMS AR15 will hold up just as well as a Colt.
 
I sold a DPMS and kicked in $200 to buy a new 6920 last month. Money well spent. I did the same thing the month before to get my BCM. I consider them both to be upgrades over their predecessors.
 
Colt is far from overpriced. There are plenty of similar rifles that are in the same price range.

Here is the problem. SOME folks don't like their kids being called ugly or stupid. This applies both to the highrollers and cheapskates. There is nothing wrong with buying budget cheap , value, average, expensive, or overpriced as long as the gear functions. If someone is perceived to have "overpaid" and the worst thing is they overpaid for a reliable rifle, big deal.

The car relate is completely irrelevant. BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Ford Chevy, Toyota, etc. Those are huge price spreads and many of those brands are far from reliable. No one has put forth the Colt as unreliable. The only complaint we see is that they're more expensive.
 
i have 2 older bushmasters now with 28,000 rounds between them so far with zero malfunctions of any kind, or for any reason. zero period. not a misfeed here because of a bad magazine, or a failure to eject there due to low powered ammo,,,,,, (i reload everything they have ever fired)

zero malfunctions through 28,000 rounds. no ammo or magazine excuses. ran hard. (1800 rounds between the two in 8 hours the last time out, 2100 rounds between the two in 8 hours the trip before that)

should i sell them immediately and start looking for something reliable?
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Ive never handled an older bushmaster but it is my understanding they used to make them a lot better than they do now and didn't charge quite as much for them


It sounds to me like you care what brand it is. Your friends must think you're a loser with your non-COLT POS beater truck gun AR15. I'm sorry, I can't stand all this bash this rifle because it's cheaper mentality. DPMS and Bushmaster wouldn't be around if their quality control, materials, parts, and assembly weren't up to snuff. Is a COLT rifle really worth the $1000 compared to an equivalent non-COLT rifle for $600-$800? Oh, it isn't because it doesn't have a pony on the side of the receiver. I bet money that my DPMS AR15 will hold up just as well as a Colt.
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Im sorry but my ar15 is not a "pos beater truck gun" lol

and your argument dpms and bushy wouldnt be around if they didnt have good QC is Ignorant.. their are tons of company's out there that make a crap product and are still around

If you have a DPMS and are happy with it thats all that matters....but its no colt

BTW I do not own a colt ar15 but if I was in the market for another ar colt would be on the list
 
Ferraris, and Lamborghinis catch on fire just like Chevy Volts! (I don't know if that was a good analogy but it sounds right seeing how it is I have seen in person a Lambo burst into flames!)
My point is I agree with:
If someone is perceived to have "overpaid" and the worst thing is they overpaid for a reliable rifle, big deal.
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I actually overpaid for an AK-47 but I am not complaining. It has never jammed, exploded, or (caught fire yet!, that would be on purpose though) It has a fantastic wood finish on it and everytime people see it at the range they give positive feedback on it. I actually have nothing against DPMS, Bushmaster, Stag Arms, etc... As with everything it's only worth it if the individual feels it's worth it. As a matter of fact when I go to get my next AR rifle it's going to either be
a) Colt.
b) LaRue Tactical.
c) Knights Armament.
I am always dreaming.:D
 
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Was able to pop off 100 rounds through the Colt today - steel cased Wolf, not one hiccup. I'm thinking that it was this Herter's steel cased cheap stuff I had a little of that is really bad about sticking. I'll be reserving it to fire out of the HK93 which will gobble up anything.
 
well pal i may not be as knowlegable as you but i do own all three and i probably put 10k a year through ars. No doubt a colt is a good gun. Mine has been anyway but again i sure wouldnt trade two good ars to get one. My stags, dmps and bushmasters all have pretty high round counts and have been just as reliable and are probably more accurate. Id bet most who buy an ar dont even put near the rounds through that i do. So you tell me whats in a colt that makes it worth twice the money that i cant buy over the counter for alot less to upgrade a gun like a stag or bushmaster. I kind of get a charge out of ar guys. Some feel that there somehow superior in intelect if they have something like a noveski or even a colt. That somehow that extra 1000 bucks they spent is going to make a bit of differnce when someone breaks into there home at night. Believe me if i had a problem with an ar it would be down the road. Ive sold a few in the past because of it. Now if you told me you swapped two old olympics for a colt i might join right in and agree. But believe me this isnt my first rodeo and just because some guy posts something on the internet thats a bit brand loyal doesnt make it so.

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Lloyd Smale

I like my colt but id be hard pressed to sell two good ars to buy one. they definately have a few higher quality features but for a couple hundred bucks a guy can upgrade a dmps or bushy with a few parts and have a gun just as good for quite a bit less. Ive got one bushmaster, two dpms, one colt, one alexander arms, one smith and one stag ar and if i had to grab one and run it would probably be my stag.

You obviously do not know what you are talking about...have you not seen all of the post in this thread that contradict what you are saying?
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I brought my Colt H-Bar before the AWB and have not shot any other type of AR.But from the advertising I figured the Les Bauer was suppose to be on par with the colt.I have shot nothing but original SS-109's thru my colt with no malfunctions at all.I like the 20rd. Colt clips the best since you can rest your gun on them.What order would you guy's rate the AR class rifle's in Best to worst?
 
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well pal i may not be as knowlegable as you but i do own all three and i probably put 10k a year through ars. No doubt a colt is a good gun. Mine has been anyway but again i sure wouldnt trade two good ars to get one. My stags, dmps and bushmasters all have pretty high round counts and have been just as reliable and are probably more accurate. Id bet most who buy an ar dont even put near the rounds through that i do. So you tell me whats in a colt that makes it worth twice the money that i cant buy over the counter for alot less to upgrade a gun like a stag or bushmaster. I kind of get a charge out of ar guys. Some feel that there somehow superior in intelect if they have something like a noveski or even a colt. That somehow that extra 1000 bucks they spent is going to make a bit of differnce when someone breaks into there home at night. Believe me if i had a problem with an ar it would be down the road. Ive sold a few in the past because of it. Now if you told me you swapped two old olympics for a colt i might join right in and agree. But believe me this isnt my first rodeo and just because some guy posts something on the internet thats a bit brand loyal doesnt make it so.
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Perfect example of the same brand mentality. You own BM, Stag, and DPMS and they're every bit as good as Colt or Noveske but...Olympic Arms oh no! You'd be on that bandwagon in a second. Please let me know where I can find a reliable AR for $0.00 because Colts aren't selling for $1000 over other offerings. Or in your other claim, "double" because you won't find a Stag, DPMS, or BM under $500. Much of the perceived "ripoff" was due to people marking them up over $1300. They can be found in the mid $900 range when in stock from reputable vendors.

Who is claiming the 6920 is anything special? It's the absolute minimalist, non-frills barebones rifle with no ninja goodies. It's a ham sandwich in the culinary AR world. The only praise any owner will ever give the 6920 is that of reliability. If your only requirement (or argument) is something that goes bang on an intruder, a plastic Keltec will do it as good as a Tubb space gun.
 
In my old age, I simply won't stand for insolence from machines. If a vehicle screws me or gives me issues, I dump it. If a computer gives me fits, dump it. Tool malfunctions, replace. Gun causes need to utilize cleaning rod at gun rage, gone. It is a "fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me" thing I learned as a kid...
 
reason i bad mouth olys and im talking the older ones as the newer guns are just fine is that i actually had 2 and both were junk. they seldom ran a whole magazine without a malfuntion. My opinion is based on shooting thousands of rounds through ars its not based on reading some statement from the internet by some elitist. By the way the local gunshop has 6920s and the price is 1200 bucks he also has dmps sporticals and bushmaster base guns for 650 bucks. Pretty close to double in my books. It looked like in the original postes post he had to sell BOTH of his to be able to afford that colt.
 
Nice Rifle the 6920

Colt, worked a lot of the bugs out of the AR system over the years. I know several old time SEA Vets who, for some reason or another, all of them valid in their eyes and experiences, have little use for Colt rifles.

But that was then, this is now.

Nice choice DesertFox. If it works for you and you have confidence in it (no matter the maker) you'll shoot it. A lot. Looks like yours came with several accessories. Some people like all that, others like pure simplicity. Nice to have choices.

Colt is sorta the baseline to compare other makers AR products in my mind, either based on quality and/or price or warranty issues. Not to mention hard use over in the mid-east and other places where these things matter most dearly. I kinda wish FN would enter the civilian market here under the Winchester banner. That'd be... kinda cool, maybe.

But do remember Colts learning curve when lives were on the line. Twas not pretty, but they learned hard lessons, and learned well.

My Dad used to say, "All dogs are good. Some are just a tad better than others in one way or another" ;)
 
The OP traded two for the Colt and came out $50 ahead. He also sold the DPMS because it had intermittent extraction issues and picky on ammo. $1200 is a gougy price as they're available for 10-20% less from other stores. Most BM in my neck of the woods start at $800 and go up from there.
 
Baba Louis posted:
I kinda wish FN would enter the civilian market here under the Winchester banner. That'd be... kinda cool, maybe.
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As a matter of fact, one of my .308 is a Winchester SX-AR, which is a FN-AR in Mossy Oak Brush clothing. Can't say enough good things about SX-AR or FN-AR.

As Cesiumsponge noted, a regular 6920 is available elsewhere for less. This one is an LE and came with the quad-rail, which I haven't been able to ID as far as brand.

Seems like for collector value or resale value, the Colt smokes 'em cause there are enough Colt fanboy type collectors who are willing to pay. Now I think I'll build one (with the goal of creating something superior) to shoot the tar out of.
 
Went back to Walmart to grab a pic of the Colt but surprise it had already sold. So I guess I'm a liar as far as the internet is concerned. They had three Sigs, a Windham, and a Bushy. The fella there tells me they have no say at the store on their AR inventory. When they sell what they have more show up. They have no idea until the truck is unloaded what they'll get.

I have no issues with trading up, just sold my DPMS. Had a guy say,"Hey that's a nice rifle, what do you gotta have for that?" Priced it to low and he jumped. Now I'm waiting on my PSA, SS middy, wylde chamber parts to show up. Fully dressed in MOE. I'll have less than 700 in the complete rifle including sights. I hope I like it as well as you do your Colt.

I apologize for being a little low road here, but your thread struck me as boastful, and crass.

As in, "Hey everyone look how much money I have, I practically give away rifles like yours, then I spend a crap ton of money I didn't need too for name brands you peasants can't afford."

I too dislike the car analogy. You strike me as the guy who buys Calvin Klein underwear so he can let his pants sag and show off the name on the waistband. Whereas the rest of us are happy if our Hanes keep our junk from swinging around too bad and the skid mark doesn't show.
 
^ You are too dang funny matt.........(rolling on floor).....:D

I dont imagine OP was boasting tho...just trying to confirm he did good in his trade!

Some say Yeah!.... some say Boo!

I think he did well dollar for dollar...made a buck or two....Got a Nice Colt!

A Good Day in my book.

I went Colt when I went shopping to start with...all the options based on $$$ made the 6920 look like the right thing to do.

A build will involve something else one day, but I have a lot to learn on the platform first!

I almost bought a POF for my first....glad I did not!, but I still want one??

And I had DPMS LR308 and wish I had not sold it...that was a mistake! I opened my mouth before thinking and he said He!! yeah! And pulled out the cabbage....What do you do.....! Would like another LR308 for sure!
 
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i think this one's about done...

i'm sure another AR brand thread will be along shortly...
 
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