Got a new "survival/pack" rifle - show me yours

[bannockburn]

chicharrones

I was really impressed with the quality of the stock and how tight the tolerances were on it. There's absolutely no play in the locking mechanism of the folding stock and I had to open up the barrel channel in the forearm section because it was too tight of a fit. That's probably why it's as accurate as the factory wood stock.

 

[new57]

Ruger 10/22 Takedown with Magpul X-22 Backpacker stock. Stock has two compartments one of which has an o-ring for waterproofing, the other can hold 3 magazines or a magazine and a box of rounds or whatever you can fit inside it. Stock clicks together as shown to keep it together and small footprint.

 

[chicharrones]

Ruger 10/22 Takedown with Magpul X-22 Backpacker stock. Stock has two compartments one of which has an o-ring for waterproofing, the other can hold 3 magazines or a magazine and a box of rounds or whatever you can fit inside it. Stock clicks together as shown to keep it together and small footprint.

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That stock is probably the best thing that came about for the 10/22 takedown.

It feels like I've said that before.

 

[kje54]

 

[chicharrones]

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I can't quite make that out. Izzat a handgun or a pistol caliber carbine?

 

[kje54]

I can't quite make that out. Izzat a handgun or a pistol caliber carbine?

Both........

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

For those not following my thread, my Marlin Papoose is coming along nicely. Almost ready for paint. Only 16" long when taken down.

Have you had much luck getting it to feed with 10rounds in that magazine? My daughters M70 (nontakedown Papoose) only seems to run right if its downloaded to 7-8, and feeds perfectly with the original blued 8- rounder.

 

[BigBlue 94]

Have you had much luck getting it to feed with 10rounds in that magazine? My daughters M70 (nontakedown Papoose) only seems to run right if its downloaded to 7-8, and feeds perfectly with the original blued 8- rounder.

Nope. Thats the factory mag for the 70PSS. Works great. There are a couple different models of magazines for the rimfire marlins. Pre-96 and post-96 i believe. It has to do with a vertical slot on the mag body. Might be the reason for the hiccups?

 

[Speedo66]

Surprisingly, the ProMag 25 round magazine for the Marlin 795 works perfectly in my later Papoose.

The surprise is not that the 795 mag works in a Papoose, but that any ProMag works well. lol

A little stiff getting it in and out, but it works.

 

[BigBlue 94]

I have no need for a 25 rounder on this papoose. Though i have seen a 15 round straight mag i wouldnt mind having.

I have a few promags for my mini 14 that surprisingly work perfect. But i do have a couple 10/22 mags of theirs that dont work at all.

 

[herrwalther]

I like the idea of an AR pistol in a bag with a 22LR conversion kit that I saw earlier in the thread. Might setup something similar for myself.

 

[JShirley]

I like the idea of an AR pistol in a bag with a 22LR conversion kit that I saw earlier in the thread. Might setup something similar for myself.

I regularly see 10.5" uppers for $180-200. You could add a budget lower and an inexpensive red dot, and be at $450 or less.

John

 

[Pete D.]

Had a M6 Springfield. No Offense to those who like there’s… yet that was about sub par as can get. Reminded me of sheet metal and piping. No need for the prices they get. Also the most important part…. Accuracy! Was awful. Just for those pondering getting one- no need to waste the time or money.

I have to disagree. I have had an M6 from Springfield Armory for years. We use it with the grand kids for plinking off the deck at tin cans and spinners that are 25 - 35 yards away. The cans get chewed up as the kids get better. I can usually hit a can at will. The .410 barrel will break backyard clays easy enough. .410 slugs shoot right to point of aim at 50 ft. It has proven to be a handy and fun gun.

 

[kje54]

I like the idea of an AR pistol in a bag with a 22LR conversion kit that I saw earlier in the thread. Might setup something similar for myself.

It's a great idea, I watched a boat load of videos on the conversion kit and from what I saw I would classify the conversion as potentially finicky/iffy. Some people have great luck with them others not so much. Some claimed the fixes worked for them some claimed otherwise. Just passing on what I viewed, I always recommend people do their own research and draw their own conclusions.

 

[kBob]

i just wish the available 10/22 folding stocks folded the “right” way (left) like the folding stock on an AR-180 or AK74 folder!

they all fold to get in the way on the Butler and Choate stocks!

-kBob

 

[JShirley]

That might be deliberate. There's a minimum OAL for a rifle. Shorter lengths may be approved by ATF, but generally not if the rifle is operable. The SUB-9, and descendant SUB-2000, for example, are well under legal length when folded, but that's allowable, since the weapon is not operable in that state.

John

 

[herrwalther]

I regularly see 10.5" uppers for $180-200. You could add a budget lower and an inexpensive red dot, and be at $450 or less.

No need. I already have the AR pistol built. And the 22 conversion. Just have to setup a case I like for it to be a pack rifle. It does need a better red dot on it though.

It's a great idea, I watched a boat load of videos on the conversion kit and from what I saw I would classify the conversion as potentially finicky/iffy. Some people have great luck with them others not so much. Some claimed the fixes worked for them some claimed otherwise. Just passing on what I viewed, I always recommend people do their own research and draw their own conclusions.

I have one already. Fired about 2 magazines through it with no issues so far. Can't attest to the accuracy of it just yet.

 

[SterlingBullet]

A Ruger Charger pistol is a great pack option; lightweight, high capacity and ballistics close to a 16” barrel.

 

[mac66]

I used to backpack. I had a Charter Arms Ar7 but the problem is the very bulky stock. I replaced it with a aftermarket collapsible stock and removed the pistol grip. Weighs about 3lbs loaded.



Held together with "ranger bands" i.e, pieces of bicycle inner tube.

 

[SwampWolf]

While looking at all the "survival/pack" rifle alternative and option suggestions (including my own), it occurred to me that a handgun might be the best compact weapon for survival purposes. High capacity magazines and easy to stow and pack pistols might well be my choice for outlasting the wilderness when compared to typical takedown rifles. You conceivably could pack two handguns in the same space one folded rifle would take.

 

[someguy2800]

The surprise is not that the 795 mag works in a Papoose, but that any ProMag works well. lol

They should really change the company name to something more appropriate. Maybe ConMag or AmateurMag.

While looking at all the "survival/pack" rifle alternative and option suggestions (including my own), it occurred to me that a handgun might be the best compact weapon for survival purposes. High capacity magazines and easy to stow and pack pistols might well be my choice for outlasting the wilderness when compared to typical takedown rifles. You conceivably could pack two handguns in the same space one folded rifle would take.

90% of the time when I'm outdoors my survival weapon would be the leatherman in my pants pocket or the handgun in my other pocket. I've always thought a folding shoulder stock that could be attached to a handgun would be really nice to keep in a pack when backpacking, but unfortunately our government has decided we can't be trusted with something so menacing.

I suppose it depends on what you need to survive against. If you are on the north slope of alaska and just need to prevent polar bears from eating you, or in a mountain lion area, a high capacity semi auto handgun would probably do as well as anything else and certainly more packable than a rifle. If you need it to collect food it would be much less useful. Here in northern Minnesota a shotgun would be the most effective thing to keep you fed but a fishing pole would probably be equally valuable. We have lots of black bear and wolves and the probability of having to defend yourself against one is extremely low, but not zero. I know of two different people attacked by black bear in the area that my family camps in the past few years. One of which was killed. I had to kill a large black bear in my front yard once that was more or less menacing the neighborhood and was no longer afraid of humans.

 

[BigBlue 94]

They should really change the company name to something more appropriate. Maybe ConMag or AmateurMag.

Nice!

Though they have it correct, but always forget the second P... PropMag

 

[chicharrones]

The takedown .22 rifle that I rely on is a (Browning copy) Norinco ATD 22 auto. It is a reliable, relatively accurate .22 rifle that is much better made than its low cost ($99.83; a cheap price even given its purchase date of 8-5-92) would seem to dictate. This little rifle has accompanied me on many canoe fishing/camping trips into the Boundary Waters and other such venues. I do wish it was made from stainless steel, though.

While looking at all the "survival/pack" rifle alternative and option suggestions (including my own), it occurred to me that a handgun might be the best compact weapon for survival purposes. High capacity magazines and easy to stow and pack pistols might well be my choice for outlasting the wilderness when compared to typical takedown rifles. You conceivably could pack two handguns in the same space one folded rifle would take.

When you mention "handgun", I assume you don't mean a braced AR pistol. What kind of handgun would you consider for your wants or needs?

I figure having a "pack rifle" doesn't mean a holstered handgun would necessarily be excluded. So, I'd like one of each.

 

[Airborne Falcon]

That's a real honest to gosh Armalite AR-7 from the 60s ... and a real honest to gosh M6 complete with the pilot's trigger, 22LR/410. I throw the AR7 in the trunk in a backpack, the mint tins are full of 22LR in a converted shotgun slug sleeve. I really need to paint those darn things black one of these days.

The M6 has 22LR in the flip up butt and the scabbard holds 410 slugs, bird shot and little buck. Those barrels are really flexible ... if you see them wrapped in paracord then that person is an idiot. Those M6s were designed for jet pilots, who may have broken hands or fingers, to be able to shoot.

They're all really just conversation pieces though. I've got better survival rifles ... but they're fun little things to have.

 

[chicharrones]

The M6 has 22LR in the flip up butt and the scabbard holds 410 slugs, bird shot and little buck. Those barrels are really flexible ... if you see them wrapped in paracord then that person is an idiot. Those M6s were designed for jet pilots, who may have broken hands or fingers, to be able to shoot.

Hmmm. Makes me wonder if paracord makes an effective barrel regulation adjusting tool.