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Got my 1911 back from the gunsmith... and it still jams!!!!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by PirateRadio, Apr 14, 2008.

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  1. PirateRadio

    PirateRadio Member

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    After about a month of waiting, I finally got my SA 1911 Mil-Spec back from the gunsmith! :D

    Well, I'm happy to say there are no more extractor problems. Now it jams in a different way. It seems like the rounds aren't making it up the feed ramp. They jam up when they are parallel with the slide and the nose of the round is just below the barrel. I took it home after hitting the range and cleaned the hell out of the gun. It seems to get better but there are still some rounds that are getting stuck. :cuss:

    Any ideas of what the problem could be? Mag issue maybe?
     
  2. crankshop1000

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    Try a quality mag like Wilson Combat and see if that helps.
     
  3. Supertac45

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    I'd try some different ammo and replace the recoil spring with a 18.5 pound one. I also reccommend the Wilson ETM for your magazines. Brownells have them in stock and they ship fast.
     
  4. PirateRadio

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    Are the Springfield mags really that crappy?
     
  5. VHinch

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    Tuner should be along shortly....

    Until then, it does sound like a mag issue, without knowing a little more info on the malfunction it sounds like a timing issue with the release of the round. What magazines are you using?

    As far as recoil springs go, personally I don't like anything other than a 16lb spring in a full size gun, but there are others that swear by the heavier weights. I don't think that's going to solve your problem here though.
     
  6. 10X

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    If you had work done on the extractor, when the round starts to feed is it properly hooked/captured by the extractor?

    If I understand your description the round nose dives and does not get to the feed ramp. Sound like a weak magazine spring. I would try another good mag first.
     
  7. PirateRadio

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    The stock Springfield ones that came with the gun.
     
  8. PirateRadio

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    The extractor seems to be working find now.

    I'll see if I can track down of of these Wilson mags.

    It's off that the SA mags would wear out this fast. The gun is only like 2 months old.
     
  9. Old Fuff

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    I know this is a radical idea, and I hate myself for making the suggestion, but I'll do it anyway. :uhoh:

    Send it back to the manufacturer and DEMAND that they fix it!

    Why are you spending YOUR money for gunsmithing services (that still haven't got the pistol ticking) or for new (and expensive) magazines or springs that may or may not work? Isn't it reasonable to expect that when you buy a new handgun it will work as it comes out of the box?

    Tuner may come along and offer suggestions, and one or more of them might work. But the fact is, It's the manufacturer's responsibility to make it work, and no one elses. :banghead:
     
  10. 1911Tuner

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    I'd venture a guess that the first suspect is that the smith put a little too much tension on the extractor.

    If you can duplicate the stoppage by hand-feeding the gun...remove the extractor and see if it makes a difference. If it does...therein is where the bug nests.

    Question:

    Did the smith do a ramp'nthroat polish job? If he did...Look at the top of the feed ramp to see if he rolled the corner where it meets the barrel ramp.
     
  11. saltydog452

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    Old Fuff does have a way with words...

    salty
     
  12. Walkalong

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    Yea, he is a radical dude. Asking the manufacturer to fix it like that. :uhoh:

    :evil:
     
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    SA is excellent about fixing the bad eggs. You should have called them before having an outside smith look at it the first time, but now you have another chance.
     
  14. PirateRadio

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    There are a couple reasons I went to a smith rather than send it back to SA. The first being that sending it out would cost roughly the same as having the smith look at it. The second, being that I didn't know what the turnaround time would be at SA because I'm going on a trip in a few weeks and I really want to being the 1911 along.

    The gunsmith is a authorized SA smith, too.
     
  15. PirateRadio

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    I'll give that a shot!

    Can anyone point me in the direction of some good instructions to remove the extractor?

    I'll check the feed ramp when I get home.
     
  16. Walkalong

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    Springfield will reimburse shipping. it'll take a couple or three weeks to get the check, but they will send it.
     
  17. PirateRadio

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    Really? Did not know that...

    I'm so used to being stuck with shipping when I have to send something back to the manf.

    I'm going to talk to the smith again and see what he says. If I have to pay to have him fix this then I'm just going to suck it up and send it back to SA.
     
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    That is good to hear that a company stands behind their product and will reimburse the outlay of shipping to get the product to them.

    I recently sent in an early 1988 Glock 17L to get some warranty work done. It cost me to ship it but they did all the work and shipped it back (cost to them). I did not get reimbursed for the original shipment (felt that was ok):uhoh:

    To have a gunsmith work on your weapon and you still have a problem is pretty irritating for sure:cuss:
    You have received some good advise hope it helps you.:)
     
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    I would take the gun back, but that's just me.
     
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    I had to send my champion back to SA and they reimbursed me for shipping and had the gun back in my hand 13 days after I shipped it to them. I was very happy with the customer service from Springfield. I was happy with the whole experience.
     
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    I won't say it
     
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    You're going to go back to the smith who didn't fix your gun the first time to see what he thinks? It cost nothing to ship to or from Springfield and no charge for warranty work. Of course, if someone "smiths" your pistol and screws up, Springfield may not cover THAT repair.

    Sorry, I've had and know of some bad experiences with "gunsmith's". Anyone can hang a shingle.

    Cloudpeak
     
  25. PirateRadio

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    I meant I'm going to go back and see if he's going to fix his mistake free of charge.
     
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