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Got my CZ Bobwhite G2 20ga today! Pic Heavy Review.

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Macchina, Feb 13, 2020.

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  1. Macchina

    Macchina Member

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    I asked about this shotgun a bit ago and don't see much information about these online so I'll do a quick first day (unshot) review of the gun and update when I get to shoot it.

    I ordered the gun online so I had to pick it up and see it for the first time. The wood was good but as I put it together it was SUPER tight and most all edges were sharp and though it all looked nice it also looked Turkish (the hand engraving all over the receiver I could do without). The finish was very dull and felt a bit sticky all over. I felt a bit of tinge in my stomach that it was a bit too Turkish (I have a dirt cheap Iver Johnson single shot that is a decent gun after a lot of work but very rough)

    So I get home and start degreasing the shotgun and going over it. After a lot of rubbing and RemOil the finish is A VERY NICE deep black. I'm very pleased with the black chrome, it's perfectly even and though they could have polished the steel better in a couple spots it is very well done where it counts. A lot of black comes off on a rag (as on most imported guns) and once cleaned up the whole gun looks and feels way better. Even the engraving looks nicer once cleaned out.

    The rib is very nicely serrated, the barrels are flared for the choke tubes and the gun comes with all 5 chokes. The bead is a nice white insert and the checkering appears laser cut and well done.

    The action is getting a bit easier after some grease and openings. The triggers are really nice, and the wood metal fit is near perfect. For the price I'm extremely happy. It'll have to shoot well of course but so far so good.

    Actual weight: 6 lbs 7 ozs
    Front trigger: 5.5 pounds
    Rear trigger: 6 pounds
    Fit is VERY SIMILAR to a Remington 870. My eye is right there on the mount just like an 870. I believe the LOP and DAC are the same with the DAH being 1/4" lower on the CZ than the 870.

    Now for a few pics. Sorry for the quality but it's 18° out and getting dark.
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  2. Macchina

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    @Fine Figure of a Man

    The stock does appear to have cast (not sure if that's the right term) for a right-handed shooter.

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  3. ApacheCoTodd

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    Pretty.
    Erases some of what I've read about poorly fitted wood. Yours looks great.

    Definitely *Cast-Off*.
    From elsewhere: "All wood-stocked shotguns that CZ-USA offers are cast-off for right-handed shooters. The 712 ALS, 720 ALS and 712 Utility have neutral cast for both right-handed and left-handed shooters."

    Many of my Husqvarna .22s came *Cast-Off* too.

    Todd
     
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  4. Fine Figure of a Man

    Fine Figure of a Man Member

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    That saves me $600.
    Very nice looking SxS for the money though.
     
  5. bannockburn

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    Congrats on the new shotgun. Some very nice photos of a pretty decent looking SxS.
     
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  6. Riomouse911

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    That’s one nice looking CZ!

    Let us know how it shoots for you :thumbup:.

    Stay safe.
     
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  7. Macchina

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    I'm hoping to get out this weekend for some very informal shooting. I'm headed out for snowshoe hare next weekend and would love to pattern the gun a bit before hunting.
     
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  8. Armored farmer

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    Very nice!
    I'm interested in a 3" sxs for waterfowl and turkey.
    I will check out the CZ.
     
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  9. WestKentucky

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    It’s a beauty. I just have 1 question, and it’s maybe a weird question... the wrist on pretty much all double barrels is the weak spot for the stock. Yours seems to have nice wood, but I can’t get a good feel for how heavy that wrist is. Does it feel fragile? Does it feel like the fat end of a baseball bat?
     
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  10. Macchina

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    The wrist is slimmer than a baseball bat fat end but definitely not too slim. It's thicker than my 870. If I had no concern over strength I'd wish it was just a bit slimmer. I have size Large hands.

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  11. Riomouse911

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    CZ is listing a very good looking line of shotguns. Sadly, I get punched in the beak shooting hard recoiling loads in my old Lefever 16 ga SxS... I guess that gun just doesn’t fit me well. I fear I’d get KO’ed if it had 3” chambers :what:.

    Along with a Rem 1100 28 ga. that’s on my grail-shotgun list, I’m casting a bit of an eye towards a CZ Quail OU 20 ga. for pheasant. Those look to be as nice as the OP’s SxS. :thumbup:

    Stay safe.
     
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  12. Cvans

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    Very nice looking gun. You can park that in my gun case any day. :thumbup:
     
  13. SwampWolf

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    I like the lines on your Bobwhite-very classically clean and simplistic. Like you, I'd prefer a slightly slimmer wrist on the stock. In terms of the "crude" engraving, it's no worse than that which came with my Merkel Model 147 EL double that cost me $3,685.00 (new) twenty years ago. Personally, I much prefer no engraving to that which looks like a thirteen year old had at it wielding a hammer and chisel.
     
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  14. Macchina

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    The more I handle the shotgun the more I appreciate the engraving and the shotgun as a whole. The engraving is all hand done which is impressive no matter the price. It isn't that bad, I just prefer as plain a finish on receivers as possible.

    It's burning a hole that I can't get out and shoot this weekend so I spent a bit of time greasing, oiling, and open/closing the action to try to speed it up. It's a MUCH nicer feeling shotgun now. It broke in to a level I can quickly break it open for hunting in about 50 openings. A hundred rounds or so always seems to do the best work to smooth a new gun out, I can't wait!
     
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  15. gpb

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    I'm glad that so far you're satisfied with your new shotgun. It took about 4 boxes of shells for that initial stiffness to subside on my new Bobwhite. The stiffness wasn't that bad, you just knew you were shooting a new gun.

    The wrist thickness on my G2 20 gauge Bobwhite feels right for my hand. For me, I really won't want it any thinner.

    Since my gun is only used for skeet, I put skeet chokes in it. Skeet chokes fall between cylinder and improved cylinder. They were available from Trulock chokes at a reasonable price.

    As far as loads, all I use are 7/8 or 3/4 ounce target loads.
     
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  16. Macchina

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    I've handled this shotgun probably 6 times without getting to fire it once. So I decided to take it apart and sop up some of the factory oil that keeps seeping out of the action.

    I carefully filled a screwdriver until I had a perfect straight-sided blade that fit deep into the 2 guard screws. Glad I did because they are tight! The action is held into the stock with a long 12mm bolt under the recoil pad, similar to many pumps.

    The action is actually quite awesome. Very well made! I'm a product design engineer and work on mechanisms like this for a living and am impressed with both the design and execution. It's certainly not perfect but the linkages are well done, the hammers and Sears are well hardened and look designed to last, the couple coil springs act on the hammer in an efficient way (the leverage favors speed at the beginning of travel and power at the end). The machining is very well done and frankly I'm shocked at the fit I see for a sub $1000 Turkish gun. Overall I am quite satisfied.

    The 12mm butt bolt:
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    Removing the guard
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    Right side, both actions relaxed
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    Left side, both actions relaxed
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    Left side, left action cocked
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    View of the bottom of the actions
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  17. Cvans

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    Thanks for sharing your experiences with this gun.
     
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    Ejectors or extractors in these?

    Looks really nice. What will be your primary quarry?
     
  19. Macchina

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    Extractors. I use a shotgun in Michigan mostly for Partridge and Woodcock. Later in the winter we get out for rabbit a bit (my profile pic is from a few weeks ago). We're going after snowshoe hare in a couple weeks.

    I might just take this turkey hunting in the Spring too if it patterns OK.
     
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  20. Macchina

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    Got a chance to shoot the Bobwhite finally today! I brought 2 pattern boards and shouldn't have taken my first shots on them as I screwed them both up (wrong distance, wrong hold, etc). Luckily I had some target supplies with me for my handguns and was able to at least check regulation on some 8.5"x11" targets at 25 yards. I'm really pleased with this gun so far! Just plinking around the cabin a bit but it comes up really fast and shoots right to POA for me. The Improved Cylinder choke is really open with lots of holes (I shot 2 patterns with it and both showed holes), but I think I'll keep it in for the snowshoe hare hunt next week. The modified barrel showed almost exactly double the shot density over the Imp Cyl and was a really nice clean pattern.

    I'll have to play with other loads to see if I can even out the pattern in the Imp Cyl or else I might go up a step to Modified/Imp Mod.

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  21. kudu

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    Get a large piece of paper or cardboard, at least 4' square, preferably 2 of them. Your barrels may not be regulated to the same point of aim. Maybe move up to 20 yards and see where the densest part of your pattern is, that should be your point of impact as opposed to your point of aim. It is also possible for the choke tubes to move the pattern to different points. I had a pretty nice 20 gauge SxS several years ago that I spent close to $3000 for and the left barrel was about 12" low and to the left of point of aim, made clay games a real challenge, really liked the gun but It was sold for a slight loss and I really don't miss it.
     
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  22. Macchina

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    Yeah, I had 2 large sheets for patterning and should have tried out the gun a bit first instead of using them up on my first shots. I held incorrectly (jammed my cheek into the stock like I was shooting a rifle instead of my natural hold) and shot both patterns way low. I shot more to get used to the gun before shooting these little targets and found a much more natural mount put my POI and POA in the same spot. I'll get out soon hopefully with some large craft paper and do some actual patterning.
     
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  23. Macchina

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    Had a chance to get out with the Bobwhite over the weekend. What a fantastic gun to carry around!

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    Thanks for posting such detailed information. Talking me into getting one in 28 for those "I'm out to hike more than hunt" days.
     
  25. Macchina

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    That's exactly what I got this guy for. There's something inherently different about carrying a straight-grip double. Almost like you're carrying a smooth pole instead of a twisted stick. An 870 can get banned around but the pump forend and pistol grip stock just don't slide through brush nearly as smoothly. Also the balance point on these makes for a perfect place to hold it with one hand in front of the action.

    I never had a double barrel before but this weekend I hunted back to a couple place I have seen coyotes and rabbits so I carried #6 in my right barrel with an Imp Mod choke and #4 buckshot in my left barrel with a full choke. It was really cool to be able to do that.
     
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