I have been playing with a Savage 11 chambered for 338 Federal and finally got to test it on deer. This gun has had me pulling my hair. Never did find a load that suits me after several range sessions. Most groups run 1 1/2"-2" with the Speer 200gr HC. Even the Federal Fusions shoot about the same. The load that I hunted with was 44 gr of Varget pushing the 200 gr at 2450 fps. To make a long story short, I had a 30 yard shot at a doe as she quartered to me. I hit her at the base of the neck with the bullet exiting on the offside shoulder. The shoulder was totally demolished with about a 4" hole in the middle of the shoulder blade. If a bullet going 2450 does that what would one of the factory Fusions do. They claim 2700 fps and I chrono'ed them at 2750. May have to try one and see.