Grab and go gun

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I’m a fatboy so I conceal nearly anything well enough. The smallest guns I own that I would carry are a Glock 42, and a Charter Undercover. When I carried I would grab the g42 most days, and back then I had a Taurus 405 that I would sometimes carry, similar in size to the charter, but much heavier. They were my all around carry guns. I see no realistic reason to buy other, smaller guns that would be “deep concealment” guns of marginal defensive ability. Besides, I don’t like changing the manual of arms around too much. If I get used to a couple guns I don’t want to have to figure out another one in an emergency type scenario.
 
Grab and Go,

Glock 43x walking the dog
Glock 19 MOS walking with the family
AR Pistol in 300blk Walking in the woods
M4 walking in a Non-Permissive Environment
DL-44 walking in space
 
Trunk Monkey said:
This is one of those topics that come up over and over again and every time it does someone makes a comment to the effect of "I can't imagine being so fearful that I feel the need to carry a gun in my home.". They then go on to tell us they have multiple guns stashed all over their house. Wait, what?

I don't always carry at home because I'm not always dressed to carry. I'm currently sitting on my couch in gym shorts and a T Shirt and my Glock 26 is sitting on the coffee table. If I move to a different part of the house it goes with me. If I'm wearing clothes that will support a gun then I wear a gun.

I read a blog by Tamara Keel once that says (paraphrased) " It's not so much that I carry a gun at home as it is that I simply carry a gun." I carry at home 1% for "just in case" and 99% because if I have to take the dogs out or SWMBO sends me to Walmart I don't have to stop and put my gun on.

On a side note I also don't specifically answer my door armed. If I'm concerned enough about who's on the other side of that door that I won't open it without a gun in my hand I just don't open the door.
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My exact feelings. I've got my CT380 on the side table beside my water glass at the moment. When I get up to go another room it comes with me and when I go to the mailbox I just slip it in my back pocket behind the money clip. Although i've thought of getting a SD9VE to use as as a straight up house gun for those lazy days when I stay home and loaf.
*When i'm home loafing on a day off i've usually got on either a pair of jeans or cargo shorts so the CT380 is usually on my person anyway. The only reason it isn't right now is because I showered when I got off work and am not wearing anything that can support carrying. If I have to go back out I'll just get dressed.
 
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Great Scot said:
Does anyone else use what I call a “grab and go” gun? Specifically, a pocket pistol of marginal caliber for those short tasks, like walking dog, grabbing milk, etc. I have 3 guns that fill those niche and I’m curious what people thought of my options. They are a NAA .22 magnum, a .22 Beretta Bobcat and a Astra Cub in .25.

Before people start telling me to carry at least a .380, I’ll say that I own 2 .380 pocket pistols and I hate shooting them, so they don’t make it into my carry rotation. I also have a couple subcompact 9mms that I use for CCW most of the time.
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So the 3 criteria for your definition of a "Grab and Go" gun is that it be:

1) A "Pocket Pistol"
2) Marginal Caliber
3) Easy to shoot

My Rohrbaugh R9 sits in a DeSantis Nemesis holster. The gun in holster goes into my front pocket when I go out, and when I'm done, the gun in holster comes out of my pocket and goes into the nightstand drawer.

It is definitely a pocket pistol, and it is my Grab and Go gun, but it doesn't meet your other 2 criteria.

Rohrbaugh R9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 2.9 in
Length: 5.2 in
Height: 3.7 in
Slide Width: .82 in
Width at thickest part of pistol: .95 in
Weight: 13.5 oz, magazine 1.6 oz
Capacity: 6+1 Rounds
 
Carry what you are comfortable with and what you can safely shoot and carry.

Have I carried a M27 tweenie barrel in a shoulder holster loaded with Dick Tracy engine block killers? yep

1911 and vairients inside the belt, shoulder holstered and Pouch? yep

but I have also carried .380s, .32s, even .25s and gosha a rooty .22 Short ( thank you Beretta)

At one point while I was living with a Colt Officers ACP my wife had a big event at a swank place in town and she expressed concern about my possible lumpiness or flashing. So an ancient Ortgies .25ACP I had been playing with of late went into pocket.

I was approached by two doctors at the party that knew my wife well enough to know I was a gun nut. A discussion followed and eventually I fessed up to having a .25 ACP on me to these two. Immediately they started with the "use enough gun" and telling me how ineffective the ,25 was.

I ask them if either had worked on a person wounded with a .25 and one said he had and the other was not sure "but either a .22 or a .25"

I asked if either of them knew anyone that would like to take even a chance of being shot with a .25 and it got quiet in that corner for a bit.

One said "But if you had to shoot a .25 would not be much" and the other smiled and nodded.

I then asked what they had to defend them selves with on the way to their cars tonight.

"Why, I am not carrying here!" again the second nodded in agreement.

I saluted them with my drink of soda and told them I at least actually did have a .25 in my pocket and asked who would be in better shape if a pair of thugs did stop one of us and a wife in the parking lot.

Lots of blinking. Fish mouth motions and "Oh...yeah..."

How about instead of ragging on one another for carry choices we encourage folks to be sure they can carry safely in a way that allows rapid and safe presentation with fast multiple shots at three yards or less and get back to hobby stuff?

-kBob
 
kBob said:
Carry what you are comfortable with and what you can safely shoot and carry.

Have I carried a M27 tweenie barrel in a shoulder holster loaded with Dick Tracy engine block killers? yep

1911 and vairients inside the belt, shoulder holstered and Pouch? yep

but I have also carried .380s, .32s, even .25s and gosha a rooty .22 Short ( thank you Beretta)

At one point while I was living with a Colt Officers ACP my wife had a big event at a swank place in town and she expressed concern about my possible lumpiness or flashing. So an ancient Ortgies .25ACP I had been playing with of late went into pocket.

I was approached by two doctors at the party that knew my wife well enough to know I was a gun nut. A discussion followed and eventually I fessed up to having a .25 ACP on me to these two. Immediately they started with the "use enough gun" and telling me how ineffective the ,25 was.

I ask them if either had worked on a person wounded with a .25 and one said he had and the other was not sure "but either a .22 or a .25"

I asked if either of them knew anyone that would like to take even a chance of being shot with a .25 and it got quiet in that corner for a bit.

One said "But if you had to shoot a .25 would not be much" and the other smiled and nodded.

I then asked what they had to defend them selves with on the way to their cars tonight.

"Why, I am not carrying here!" again the second nodded in agreement.

I saluted them with my drink of soda and told them I at least actually did have a .25 in my pocket and asked who would be in better shape if a pair of thugs did stop one of us and a wife in the parking lot.

Lots of blinking. Fish mouth motions and "Oh...yeah..."

How about instead of ragging on one another for carry choices we encourage folks to be sure they can carry safely in a way that allows rapid and safe presentation with fast multiple shots at three yards or less and get back to hobby stuff?

-kBob
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ANY GUN is better than a sharp stick!
 
It takes the same amount of time to put on any of my holsters. But in the spirit of the thread, my : getting the mail, pajama party & swimming gun is a g42. I don't have an interest in carrying anything smaller (grip). I tried out a tcp a couple years ago, to say I couldn't shoot it well is an understatement - it was comical.

this. It gets carried about 10% of the time.
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My advice to someone who asked would be carry the most gun (caliber) you can shoot safely and well -- and which you will actually carry regularly.
For me, that's generally a compact 9mm on the belt or a .380 in the pocket, or maybe -- occasionally -- a J-frame S&W with .38 +Ps.
Yeah, I can shoot .40s and .45s and .357s, I generally just don't enjoy carrying 'em.
Your life, your money, your gun, your pants ... your choices.
 
For around the neighborhood or yard, it's a 642-1. For shopping or other errands I'll carry a G27...if i must pass through any war zones (especially where those released prisoners are known to congregate) I'll take a G29 (with G20 mag).

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If I have to “grab and go,” a J-Frame has generally been small enough for my pockets. For the rare occasions I wear trousers with insufficient pockets, I can grab a Safepacker, made by The Wilderness dot com. This can carry a serious pistol.

My only pistol that fires .22 LR is a Smith & Wesson Model 17-4 revolving pistol, a K-Frame. I have not owned a functional .25 ACP pistol since the Eighties.

Shooting small autos has generally been uncomfortable. I do have a Seecamp LWS-32 pistol, which is tolerable because the trigger is set quite far forward, so it is more like shooting a medium-sized weapon. I have not, however, tended to use it as a “Grab-and-Go” gun, but, instead, as part of a planned event, and this has been only occasionally.
 
Horses for courses. Risk management does not ONLY focus upon severity of consequence, but also frequency. Such the concession that carrying something smaller and less accommodating, but which has been statistically proven to be as effective in real world events, is a viable option in a lower risk profile scenario.

My EDC has been an LCP for many years, pretty easy to carry it as a “grab and go” pistol as well - consistency is key.

But as I said, horses for courses. There is no “grab and go” option for me because “grab and go” isn’t descriptive of the risk profile. My “grab and go jog 10 miles down and back the road in nothing but my shoes and board shorts” isn’t the same pistol as my “grab and go into town to a large super-market for milk” option (LCP and G19, respectively). My “grab and go walk the dog” option of late has been OC 3:30 belt carry of my SiCo Matrix. We walk 3-6 miles down and back the tracks nearby as it has less traffic than the highway - and being able to shoot and retain hearing for my son and my dogs as we make a long egress is a key advantage.
 
Varminterror said:
Horses for courses. Risk management does not ONLY focus upon severity of consequence, but also frequency. Such the concession that carrying something smaller and less accommodating, but which has been statistically proven to be as effective in real world events, is a viable option in a lower risk profile scenario.
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This is a well-stated other side of the 'always pack the max' argument.

YMMV, as per usual.
 
Varminterror said:
Horses for courses. Risk management does not ONLY focus upon severity of consequence, but also frequency.
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By 'frequency", we assume that you intended to say "likelihood".

Risk management encompasses likelihood, the severity of the potential consequences, and the availability and practicality of possible mitigation strategies.

In cases involving potential consequences that are extremely severe, likelihood pales in comparative importance, and mitigation becomes extremely important.

That's why we say "it's mot the odds, it's the stakes".

Should the risk occur, what would necessary to mitigate the consequences would have nothing at all to do with what the likelihood of occurrence might have been beforehand.

Noe, if we are speaking of a different risk (bear attack, or the need to pursue and apprehend violent criminals), we would consider different mitigation strategies.

Varminterror said:
Such the concession that carrying something smaller and less accommodating, but which has been statistically proven to be as effective in real world events, is a viable option in a lower risk profile scenario.
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I'm not sure what you think that might be.
 
Kleanbore said:
Risk management encompasses likelihood, the severity of the potential consequences, and the availability and practicality of possible mitigation strategies.

In cases involving potential consequences that are extremely severe, likelihood pales in comparative importance, and mitigation becomes extremely important.
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As a professional in this particular field, you are out of your depth.
 
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